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Firefox 0.9.1 and Thunderbird 0.7.1 Released

Posted by simoniker on from the feedback-schmeedback dept.

Dave writes "The Mozilla Foundation has just made available interim releases of Firefox 0.9.1 and Thunderbird 0.7.1. Apparently: 'These releases are designed to address early issues found in the new extension manager and automatic upgrade system as well as making changes to the new Firefox theme based on initial feedback.'"

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  1. Thankfully by La_Boca · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm honestly happy they haven't changed the name again. Trying to get your office to adapt to a new browser is hard enough when they are afraid to use software that doesn't "come in a box" much less when it keeps changing it's name.

  2. Adblock... by shic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I hope this version either includes Adblock as standard or at least makes it easy to install as an extension. Adblock is a major reason to adopt Firefox - and it was a huge step backwards to find that 0.9 didn't support Adblock by default.

    1. Re:Adblock... by Threni · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I hope this version either includes Adblock as standard or at least makes it easy to install as an extension. Adblock is a major reason to adopt Firefox - and it was a huge step backwards to find that 0.9 didn't support Adblock by default.

      Given that previous versions of Firefox didn't include AdBlock either, how does continuing to not include it constitute a `huge step backwards`?

    2. Re:Adblock... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well I hope those pages you're blocking the Banner Ads on find a way to completely block you from their site soon.

      Seriously. You enjoy the services that some sites provide, the least you can do is to view their banner ads. That is still where a lot of revenue comes from. If everyone on the internet at one instance adopted FireFox with Adblock installed we would lose thousands of sites, or gain the most annoying advertising we have ever seen because someone thought they would be cool and block the banner ads.

      While not the only cause, blocking of banner ads is one thing that has made these new cover-up-everything flash ads, pop-ups, pop-unders, and so on come around. People blocked the banner ads, revue went down, more revenue was needed.

      It really comes down to this, if you block the banner ads, don't even both going to the site. If you can't simply let them get the fraction of a cent by some banner ad loading (yes CPM are still being used) you really have no right to use their free service. More and more sites will go away, employ more advertising that gets in your face, or go to a subscription model where you're going to have to pay your own hard earned money instead of just viewing an image.

      View the banner ads. If you do that, blocking pop-ups, flash take-over ads, that's fine, at least you're letting the simplest and least annoying advertising load and actually giving back for the free sevice you are using.

    3. Re:Adblock... by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You can set adblock to download the image but not display it. If you never clicked on banner ads anyways, this is the exact same as downloading banner ads but not displaying them as far as the sites concerned. Its still counted as a banner view and thus the site is still credited.

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  3. Good job for the Theme complaints, folks by MicroBerto · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I, among SEVERAL others, were one of those that was vehemently against a change to the dreaded new theme in 0.9. It was said that the new theme was set in stone, and that the arguments have been made.

    But that's what's great about this community. We complained anyway, and kept complaining. Our voices were heard - we have access to so many of the developers and are a vocal bunch. I'm not sure if the theme is switched back to Qute, which I like, but all I know is that the 0.9 theme just wasn't professional enough to "take over the world".

    Good job to all those who helped the project realize that we needed something better. Open-source is not just software - it's social too. Compared to OSS developers, closed developers don't have close to the conduits of communication to see what the users truly want. Especially when we're that passionate about such 'silly' things.

    So keep making your voices heard, and don't let autocracy-like decisions harm your favorite project.

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    Berto
    1. Re:Good job for the Theme complaints, folks by tunah · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Actually, what I heard was a bunch of whiners complaining about how the new theme was an abomination and they wanted their Qute back, despite the reasons for the change, the fact that it was a work in progress, and that Qute was clearly still available. The decision had been made, and still stands - the default 0.91 theme is a much-improved winstripe.

      (Don't get me wrong, I like Qute, and the 0.9 theme had problems, but the venom the devs got was ridiculous).

      It may be your favourite project, but the people who do the work get to make the decisions.

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  4. Re:IE troubles.. by galego · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or better yet ... when CERT reccommends using a 0.x release of another browser over the 6.x version of IE.

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  5. Poor GUI design at places by ville · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Dunno if anyone noticed but some of the dialogs don't have a cancel button, or similar that will close the dialog. For example the Tools>Extensions dialog. All you can do is uninstall, update or check out more extensions.


    There should be a close/cancel button. How can the application assume there is a "close" provided by the WM.

    // ville

  6. Re:Which sites? by Pedrito · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Which sites are you refering to?

    Actually, Slashdot is one of the sites I had problems with. Sometimes different regions would overlap giving a pretty ugly display.

    There were about a half dozen other pages.

    You wrote: You have to remember, new Mozilla versions won't magically make broken markup/css work.

    If IE magically makes them work, then I expect Mozilla to make them work. Keep in mind, I'm saying this from a user's point of view. Most users don't care if it's the fault of the person that designed the page. They're going to say, "Well, it worked in IE, so Mozilla must be broken." Even if the page designers screwed up, you'll never convince the users (except the technically proficient ones), that it's the fault of page designers, not if they see it working in IE.

  7. Hurry up already!!! by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    0.9.1.
    Come on guys. I need 1.0 pronto.

    Everyone at home is using IE6 which as we all know has major unpatched holes which have already been exploited by the russian mob.(P.S. do you think that had anything to do with the Akamai DNS outage)
    Now this would not be a huge problem, except they're using their credit cards online, passwords etc. I've got some pretty critical stuff on that windows box and I don't want some jerk from Russia or the NSA snooping about my account, which of course on a windows box is everyone's account!

    Yesterday I finally decided to get Firefox 0.9(.0 >:|) for the XP computer. I was influenced in no small part by CERT's recommendation. If they've actually noticed other browsers, then something must be VERY wrong. I'm trying to get the family to use it, but you know how it is. "This isn't the proper internet!" . "What happened to the internet?" etc, etc, etc.
    But I'm past caring. The fact that MS haven't fixed the problem yet really was the last straw. I'm going to make them give up IE if it kills me. However Firefox on windows is still a little buggy, paticularly with autodissconnect. So Version 1.0 would be nice ASAP.

    My reasons for switching are of course manifest, but on top of all of that I have a hunch that MicroSoft are going to drop IE in the near future. I know, I know they've re-constituted the IE team but that doesn't mean the team will work exclusivly on IE. I figure since IE is so full of holes, MS will just prefer to start from scratch, maybe develop new goodies/lock-ins. Tellingly IE still runs on 'number' versions; IE4,IE5,IE6 instead of the usual MS versioning; 95,98,2000,XP,2003 etc. Think about it. Hmm?

    Well I'm not waiting around for them to dump the only windows browser I use, so I'm going to make a switch now. Hopefully I can keep the pain to a minimum, but it will mean downloading the ENTIRE Java runtime enviorment on a dialup... I'll see you in 2020.

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    May the Maths Be with you!
  8. Re:Has anyone installed it yet?? by random_static · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Then the splash screen would disappear without a trace.

    sounds like a feature to me. or did you mean the rest of the application disappeared also?