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Firefox 0.9.1 and Thunderbird 0.7.1 Released
Dave writes "The Mozilla Foundation has just made available interim releases of Firefox 0.9.1 and Thunderbird 0.7.1. Apparently: 'These releases are designed to address early issues found in the new extension manager and automatic upgrade system as well as making changes to the new Firefox theme based on initial feedback.'"
I've upgraded to 0.9.1, and I still get notification that new updates are available.
Anybody else getting this, or have I bodged something?
I'm honestly happy they haven't changed the name again. Trying to get your office to adapt to a new browser is hard enough when they are afraid to use software that doesn't "come in a box" much less when it keeps changing it's name.
I just upgraded from 9.0 without uninstalling.
It worked fine. However it's only been like 3 minutes since i've been using 9.1.
I just installed it this morning and it installed flawlessly over 0.9
You know IE is in trouble when a minor point release meant to address bugs only makes Slashdot headlines..
Wait, then again, the smell of T-Rex's breath did too.. Never mind.......
I hope this version either includes Adblock as standard or at least makes it easy to install as an extension. Adblock is a major reason to adopt Firefox - and it was a huge step backwards to find that 0.9 didn't support Adblock by default.
When I upgraded from 0.8 to 0.9 a bunch of things stopped working; the browser would spawn new windows whenever I clicked on a URL regardless of the config settings, popup-blocking was less-reliable, sometimes the download manager wouldn't close itself after a download was complete, and other weirdness. I think I'm going to hold off this time on promptly upgrading because 0.9 was not an improvement over 0.8.
ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/mozilla/
http://mozilla.gnusoft.net/
These worked for me. (Posted as AC to avoid whore-accusations. :) )
The theme in 0.9 was a work in progress released early in the hope to gain some feedback, the 0.9.1 release just is updated with the current progress of that theme.
The original theme in 0.8 and below was removed for licensing reasons. You can still install it by going to the themes secion of update.mozilla.org (also accessible from the Theme Manager in the Tools menu)
I was really skeptical of the new winstripe theme in Firefox 0.9, the new changes introduced in 0.9.1 however makes it a LOT better in my opinion. I just wish Thunderbird would now work to unify its theme with Firefox.
It's the small things that makes the browser for me, the look and feel. It's hard to explain it in detail. Going back to IE after using Firefox for a long time just doesn't feel right. For example, there's all these little half-second pauses in IE when the controls and scrolling are unresponsive, times when the right-click context menu won't show up when it's still loading. Sometimes the window stops redrawing for a second or two (especially while running Windows Update, but otherwise too) etc. All these little glitches drive me crazy when I have to use IE.
It's like deja vu all over again.
But that's what's great about this community. We complained anyway, and kept complaining. Our voices were heard - we have access to so many of the developers and are a vocal bunch. I'm not sure if the theme is switched back to Qute, which I like, but all I know is that the 0.9 theme just wasn't professional enough to "take over the world".
Good job to all those who helped the project realize that we needed something better. Open-source is not just software - it's social too. Compared to OSS developers, closed developers don't have close to the conduits of communication to see what the users truly want. Especially when we're that passionate about such 'silly' things.
So keep making your voices heard, and don't let autocracy-like decisions harm your favorite project.
Berto
It's interesting to see how when releases of Firefox are made its only to fix minor bugs and add new features.
However, when updates to Internet Explorer are made, its for massive security holes and exploits, of course, this is only after two weeks of Microsoft saying that a patch is not needed and to not click links.
Why are people still using IE6? Back in the old days of the Internet, people weren't interested in using inferior browsers, I wish that same mentality still existed today.
Firefox and Thunderbird are great, however, I switched to Linux and use both applications (Firefox and Thunderbird) and a bunch of other cool Linux apps (Audicity rules!). It's great, because now I don't feel like I'm playing Russian Roulette every time I use my computer, hoping I don't get infested with adware or some random virus everytime I go to a webpage that I haven't been to before.
...a slightly more advanced version of writing "other side up" on both ends of a box.
Netscape lost it's battle trying to follow IExplorer
(jack-of-all-trades) app scheme. It became bloatware. Nobody cared that it could manage email, instant messages and newsgroups when all we wanted is to browse the damn web.
Then came firefox.
small, cute and F*A*S*T.
Yep, Firefox is fast. Just like Google..whatever
you are going to give, give it pronto.
I did make Firefox my default browser. That is a lot to say after 5 years waiting for a viable alternative. Sure company services DEMAND to see
IExplorer in the client info to support us. But at home...I built the net, there I'M GOD!
- these are not the droids you are looking for -
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-- Real programmers don't comment their code. It was hard to write, it should be hard to understand.
They should have called this release "9.0 Optimized" just to force AOL to litigate them into yet another name change.
You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
Did anyone else notice the CSS/Drawing bug on Slashdot where the side panel overlapped the side panel slightly. That bug has been fixed in this release.
:D
I love firefox
Si.
If you're having weird problems with Firefox it might be because there was a bug in some of ther nightly builds and maybe the release candidates (?) that could cause problems with your profile. If you've got nothing critical in your profile (bookmarks, passwords etc) then just try deleting all traces off it and starting again.
In Windows your profile will live in the %APPDATA% directory which in 9x is usually c:\windows\application data and in 2k/XP C:\Documents and Settings\user\application data\ (folder may be hidden).
In this directory delete the directories Phoenix, Firefox and the Firefox directory within Mozilla if it exists.
As this is pre-1.0 software, sometimes problems may occur.
FF .9 appears to not run properly on Win95. Now the interesting thing is that Mozilla initially stated that .8 was for 98 and later. However, it turned out to run fine on 95. So the web pages were changed to reflect that.
.9, it just didn't work right. So I went back to .8. But now several versions of Bookmark Link Checker fail to work, i.e., no UI (no buttons or menu choices appear).
.9 would fail, *I would've just kept using .8 and having the Link Checker work!*
This time, it said "98 and later" and I assumed that they'd made the same error again. But when I tried
Wish they hadn't established the ambiguity in the first place. Had I known that
You must not have liked it too much to have given up so easily. Deleting your profile, either via the profile manager or manually and then reinstalling would have most likely solved your problem. Considering Firefox takes 1 minute to install, it's not that big a deal.
"The problem with internet quotations is that many are not genuine" -Abraham Lincoln
There should be a close/cancel button. How can the application assume there is a "close" provided by the WM.
0.9 had a lot of new features and so it was expected a lot of small bugs would be found once it was released due to widespread testing so most people anticipated this release. It fixed the most annoying bugs in 0.9 so the developers can now concentrate on 1.0 beta
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/ - click on the roadmap link when you goto this page
I upgraded without uninstalling too. It worked fine... until I closed the browser and tried to open it again. Then the splash screen would disappear without a trace.
Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.
-- Pablo Picasso
Firefox 0.9 has been quite unstable on my (Win) system compared to earlier relases [sic]. Hopefully this release addresses some of the issues.
Try uninstalling extensions.
When I upgrade to 0.9, it ran like a dog on my W2K box, hitting 100% CPU utilization nearly every time I did anything in the browser, making 0.9 nearly useless. (I'm sure there's a pr0n/masturbation joke to be found in the previous sentence; I leave it as an exercise for the enterprising troll.)
As I was about to revert to Fire$BEAST 0.8, I decided to look at the extensions I'd installed.
I tracked the slow-down to an extension designed to notify of javascript errors. This may not be the extension's fault per se, as I use Proxomitron to filter out ads and (some) javascript; the extension may just have been doing more work than it expected dealing with references to filtered-out javascript.
After removing the extension (and closing and re-starting Fire$VERTEBRATE -- don't skip this step) the ridiculous CPU utilization want away, and 0.9 worked fine.
Opinions on the Twiddler2 hand-held keyboard?
Which sites are you refering to?
Actually, Slashdot is one of the sites I had problems with. Sometimes different regions would overlap giving a pretty ugly display.
There were about a half dozen other pages.
You wrote: You have to remember, new Mozilla versions won't magically make broken markup/css work.
If IE magically makes them work, then I expect Mozilla to make them work. Keep in mind, I'm saying this from a user's point of view. Most users don't care if it's the fault of the person that designed the page. They're going to say, "Well, it worked in IE, so Mozilla must be broken." Even if the page designers screwed up, you'll never convince the users (except the technically proficient ones), that it's the fault of page designers, not if they see it working in IE.
0.9.1.
Come on guys. I need 1.0 pronto.
Everyone at home is using IE6 which as we all know has major unpatched holes which have already been exploited by the russian mob.(P.S. do you think that had anything to do with the Akamai DNS outage)
Now this would not be a huge problem, except they're using their credit cards online, passwords etc. I've got some pretty critical stuff on that windows box and I don't want some jerk from Russia or the NSA snooping about my account, which of course on a windows box is everyone's account!
Yesterday I finally decided to get Firefox 0.9(.0 >:|) for the XP computer. I was influenced in no small part by CERT's recommendation. If they've actually noticed other browsers, then something must be VERY wrong. I'm trying to get the family to use it, but you know how it is. "This isn't the proper internet!" . "What happened to the internet?" etc, etc, etc.
But I'm past caring. The fact that MS haven't fixed the problem yet really was the last straw. I'm going to make them give up IE if it kills me. However Firefox on windows is still a little buggy, paticularly with autodissconnect. So Version 1.0 would be nice ASAP.
My reasons for switching are of course manifest, but on top of all of that I have a hunch that MicroSoft are going to drop IE in the near future. I know, I know they've re-constituted the IE team but that doesn't mean the team will work exclusivly on IE. I figure since IE is so full of holes, MS will just prefer to start from scratch, maybe develop new goodies/lock-ins. Tellingly IE still runs on 'number' versions; IE4,IE5,IE6 instead of the usual MS versioning; 95,98,2000,XP,2003 etc. Think about it. Hmm?
Well I'm not waiting around for them to dump the only windows browser I use, so I'm going to make a switch now. Hopefully I can keep the pain to a minimum, but it will mean downloading the ENTIRE Java runtime enviorment on a dialup... I'll see you in 2020.
May the Maths Be with you!
Here's a screenshot of winstripe in 0.9.1.
Looks much better than in 0.9 if you ask me. Good Job!
Well, let me guess :
:
:
o okies.txt
1) No tabbrowser extensions?
Try here : http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/tbe (it works and I'm using it on 0.9 right now)
2) No Adblock or it doesn't work right?
Try here : http://adblock.mozdev.org/adblock-0.5-dev.xpi (again, it works perfectly on 0.9 and I'm using it)
Finally, if stuff still does not work for you, use this old trick that has saved me a lot of times
Close Firefox.
Rename your profile folder.
Start Firefox again - it will re-create your profile folder. Close it.
Copy over the following files to the new profile folder (overwriting the existing ones)
bookmarks.html
history.dat
formhistory.dat
c
signons.txt
That's it. Ofcourse, you will have to install your extensions all over again, but that does not take much time and it's worth the effort. Every single time I've used this procedure it's worked perfectly and Firefox has gone back to it's usual efficient self.
Hope this helps.
Find a job you like and you will never work a day in your life.
I migrated the famlies browsing to Netscape 7.1 and Firefox (IIRC 0.9) just before Micrsofts little trouble last weekend. So far Firefox has withstood my daughters browsing of Barbie, Cbeebies and Cartoon Network (including watching the web shows and playing the games) and successfully worked with my on-line grocers site. If any bit of software can survive prolonged contact with a small child, it has to be good.
You don't need a lab to make mud.
So we know what we are talking about without having to download firefox:
http://tribbin.no-ip.org/pub/firefox-0.9.1.png
If you mod this up, your slashdot background will turn into a beautiful sunset!
sounds like a feature to me. or did you mean the rest of the application disappeared also?
That's what you are saying, and what I already knew. But now there's also this:
This sig under construction. Please check back later.
nah, it's the IE user that got the worm.
Snowden and Manning are heroes.
Well...since you'd be rolling back from 9.0 to 0.9.1, I think that might be a bad move...
Seriously, I went to take a look at the release notes linked to on the download page and got taken to the 0.9 page, but you can see the release notes for 0.9.1 here. This should give you enough info to judge whether you want to upgrade.
Denver Isuzu Suzuki
That would be a feature.
If CERT/Homeland Security publicly recommend people switch that's going to definitely have some influence. They came pretty close to doing just that with recent IIS/IE vulnerabilities. The Washington Post picked it up Saturday.
No, ActiveX itself isn't the root of IE's problems. The root of IE's problems is that it is closely tied into the OS and does not run in a "sandbox" of sorts. That means that any vulnerability in IE is a vulnerability in Windows. Where ActiveX plays into this is that there are holes in many ActiveX plugins that when exploited can alter the OS. ActiveX plugins that are run in a proper sandbox (and in an application that is not part of the operating system) are no more dangerous than Firefox extensions are.
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