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Night Goggles Capture Spider-Man Movie Bootlegger
linuxwrangler writes "According to SFGate.com/AP, a teen has been arrested for attempting to bootleg the Spider-Man 2 movie, after a projectionist using night-vision goggles spotted him. The teen was escorted from the theater by security guards and turned over to police. This may be the first arrest stemming from the use of NV goggles that were previously mentioned on Slashdot."
Ain't it always?
And for Pete's sake can we PLEASE get a better bootleg of Fahrenheit 9/11 than that absolute crap of a POT cam?
What's with the music barely audible (although I suppose the dialog is more important...weird to hear this steady hiiiiiiissssss in the background during the musical numbers tho)
most of the moovies on p2p networks comes from the dvds distributed to preview them
See this is why you should never listen to slashdot for technical information.
Telecyncs are indeed a kind of cam, and yet the poster above is modded Troll for correcting some know-nothing-but-"insightful" karma whore.
Slashdot never lets technical facts get in the way of a good karma whoring.
"to do something that may jeopardize his employment"
If they can prove (beyond reasonable doubt) he let you in to film it under those conditions, he is risking more than his emplyment. IANAL.
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Telesyncs are cams done in an empty theater with a direct feed from the sound system. In other words, done by an employee, or at least with their assistance, which was the point of the original poster, as opposed to a copy shot by an audience member, which is the implied meaning of "cam" by most.
Who's stupid...?
If you actually read the article you'd know that there are $500 rewards for turning in people with camcorders. Now unless someone is overlooking the $500, this would make sense. But there's a good incentive for someone making shitty wage to rat out the camcorder monkeys.
The kid's lucky that this recent bill isn't a law yet. He'd be looking at a maximum of 3 years instead...
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Chief Wiggum: "Do not be alarmed. Continue swimming naked...."
It would be cool if it didn't suck.
Will this mean they will stop using the incredibly annoying and almost epilepsy-inducing cap codes?
No. Unfortunately, and ironically, you assume that assumptions don't have bearing. In fact, the assumptions of a reasonably person are indeed the deciding factor in numerous different laws.
Most obvious example: Phone conversations cannot be tapped without a court order because people have a reasonable assumption of privacy.
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If the kid is smart, he'll already have a lawyer on his side, working for him. This is how laws get challenged. The sentiment of, "You did the crime, now do the time," is a cop-out. Would you react the same way if speeding was punishable by up to a year in prison and a $2500 fine? What would you do if you killed someone in self defense and were charged with murder? Would you roll over and take it, because you obviously killed the person? People bitch and moan about lawyers and the judicial system, but they protect your rights. (I'm speaking of criminal lawyers, not the civil lawyers that live for the next big class action.) What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt? This may look cut and dried, but how do we know there weren't extenuating circumstances? Are night vision goggles really allowable, or is it an infringement on constitutional rights? (you don't have the constitutional right to bootleg movies, but you do have a constitutionally protected privacy that this may or may not infringe upon -- the only way to know is for the case to be tried in court and see what happens.) The kid might get off on what you consider a technicality, but that's justice. If the method of collecting evidence is questionable, and disallowed, and the case can't be proven otherwise, then the guy deserves to go free because you can't prove he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Whether it's a bootlegging case like this, a speeding ticket where the equipment used was out of calibration, or a more serious crime where evidence was gathered illegally (say, by tapping a phoneline without a warrant, or illegally searching someone's property without a warrant), it doesn't matter. If you can't prove the case beyond a shadow of a doubt without the disallowed evidence, there is no case. Period. End of story.
Complain if you like. That's your right. However, you should at least take the time to understand why the system is the way it is, and why even the obviously guilty still have a right to representation and a fair and speedy (speedy can be waived by the defendent, but not fair) trial by a jury of their peers. I don't want to take that right away from you. Why would you want to take it away from me?
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, nor do I pretend to know all of the circumstances of this case.
Hi! The greeks knew long before, but they weren't catholic, so the catholic world took until 1996 when the pope finally officially admitted that galileo might have been right after all.
Galileo moved the sun in the center of the system, made the earth spinng around itself, and not the universe around it, that was the actual crime not so much for calling it round.
While in Galileos model the planets made perfect cycles around the sun, Copernicus corrected that by noticing that they are eclipses, and postulating the various laws around that.
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and prior to the film, there was an advert reading something like Hollywood thanks you for last year's $6.7 billion record-breaking admissions. Now I understand just how badly these kids are sticking it to the industry.
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Actually, it was Kepler who came up with the laws of planetary motion - including elliptic orbits.
Copernicus introduced a helio-centric universe but used circular orbits.
Galileo, who was a contempary of Kepler, made experimental observations using the newly-invented telescope with which he found moons orbiting another planet (Jupiter).
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The fact that these 'rent-a-cops' are off duty police officers doesn't really matter, you can't be charged with assaulting a police officer because at that moment he is acting not as a police officer. When you assault a police officer you aren't really assaulting the person, rather you're assaulting the uniform and the person who just happens to be wearing that uniform(the exception to this of course would be attacking a plain clothes officer). So feel confident knowing you can smack around a rent-a-cop and just get charged with vanilla flavoured assault.
There is loss. Loss in seeing the value of the movie being diluted because some cretin put it on the internet for free.
What is the value of something if it can be copied (reproduced) for (near to) zero cost?
Fact is, after a song, a movie and anything else which can be stored in digital form has been produced, its value is as high as the cost of reproducing and distributing it. Using cheap PCs and broadband internet, this cost is usually pretty much negligible.
Money is an abstract representation of the value of an object or service. While one might need more coins to pay for the same product if more money is added to 'the system', the value of the products remains the same.
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... you might want to learn a thing or two on the filmmaker.
You can also read the response to some of the critic in Michael Moore responds to the wacko attackos.
And thus comes an end to Jerry Seinfeld's bootlegging career.
(It's sad I'm going to explain this to avoid a -1 offtopic, but Jerry Seinfeld was forced into bootlegging movies for a professional bootlegger in NY during his TV sitcom when the bootlegger ate too much candy and got a stomach ache and had to leave. He made Jerry finish the bootlegging of some movie and liked his camcorder work so much that he made him bootleg other movies.)
The ticket he purchased entitles him to watch the movie in the theatre. He did not however, purchase his own personal copy of the movie. It doesn't matter what he may or may not have intended to do with the movie later.
Who the hell wants some crappy camcorder-made copy of a movie, anyways?
I have often seen them for sale on the street. They are often sold in counterfeit packaging designed to look like a legitimate video, but inside is a crappy camcorder theater copy. Laws preventing theater taping are thus defensible in terms of protecting the consumer, as well as protecting the livelihoods of people who work in the movie, theater, or video rental industries, not to mention preventing legitimate theater goers from being annoyed by jerks with videocameras.
after all LOTR and Austin Powers are both PG-13 and there's NO WAY I'm letting my 8 year old see that...
I hate to be the one to point this out to you, but PG-13 means parental guidance is suggested for those under 13. 8 definitely falls into the "under 13" category.
Of course, I let my 8yo watch both of those movies. Before she was 8, even. Most of the really adult themes were way over her head. Not only that, but I teach her how to handle inappropriate materials. Scarred for life? I doubt she even remembers the AP movies now...
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There is no need for evidence of intent to upload. The act of copying is itself a violation of the studio's copyright. He could have intended to take the tape home and bury it in the backyard forever and never ever watch it, but that has nothing to do with whether the studio has the legal right to prevent him making a copy in the first place.
In a hotel room you pay to have a 'reasonable expectation of privacy', whereas in a theatre, where you pay to sit in a large open room with a couple hundred people that you don't know, you have no such protection.
You forget, these are the same people who claimed that they lost money on Forrest Gump, so they wouldn't have to ... the profit-based percentage he was owed.
No movie has ever made a profit; it is called "Hollywood Accounting". This is a well known practice to anyone who has taken even an intro to accounting course. The studios purposefully look for suckers to sign over rights in exchange for a share of profits they know will never appear. This is a perfect example of why EVERYONE, regardless of whether you're a sculptor, painter, or renassaince actor, should take take a few basic business courses so those who have taken a lot of business courses can't jerk you over.
This situation is a public performance, not a purchased copy of the move. So fair use doesn't apply.
What's Homeland Security, FBI, and ATF have to do with this?
The goggles were issued and paid for by Motion Picuture companies (ie, Warner Bros..etc). They are attempting to protect their product, no different then the camera that watches you try on clothes at the local Army Navy store.
I should mention, that your comment makes you appear as nothing more than a curmudgeon. To use a story such as this to try and make your malcontent point is short-sighted. Surely there are better places for arguments on Justice Department policy and direction.
I must admit, i do find your comment +Funny. But not so much laughing with you, as at you.
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It's my understanding that modern CCD cameras have IR filters anyways.. When you use NightShot on Sony handicams, it actually disables the IR filter.
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Actually, torture is considered one of the least reliable interrogation methods due to the fact that when someone is in extreme pain, they'll tell you anything - most likely what they think you want to hear, regardless of whether it's the truth or not - to get you to stop inflicting said pain.
>>a teen in a theater with a camcorder isn't much of a threat
No, he's a thief. And is being treated appropriately.
Mods, in accordance with Slashdot rules, please proceed and mod me as a troll for this opinion.
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