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Linux vs. Windows: What's The Difference?

underpar writes "This zdnet article covering Microsoft's Tech Ed conference quotes one of the speakers, Mark Russinovich, as saying that Linux is becoming more and more like Windows. He cites many examples of where Linux 'copies' Windows and other operating systems. He says the only current difference is 'how windowing is handled.'"

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  1. Re:An important difference by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1, Troll
    How many of these compilers will you find on the Windows installation disk? None. Linux on the other hand ships with compilers as standard.

    Yep, us stupid Windoze lusers aren't clever enough to recompile our kernels every 24 minutes, so we have to install ready-made software that just works instead. What a stoopid idea. :-)

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  2. Re:An important difference by IdleTime · · Score: 1, Troll

    bah...
    Try this one (both in Linux and in Windows and see which one runs it :-)

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  3. tard by adamruck · · Score: 0, Troll

    this guy is a tard, the is a huge fucking difference between linux and windows. Maybe not for playing minesweeper, but if you ever actually do anything with the two, you will see the differnce.

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  4. Re:An important difference by Sporkinum · · Score: 0, Troll

    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\Homer>wmic
    wmic:root\cli>?
    ? - Alias not found.
    wmic:root\cli>help
    help - Alias not found.
    wmic:root\cli>1
    1 - Alias not found.
    wmic:root\cli>cd
    cd - Alias not found.
    wmic:root\cli>quit

    C:\Documents and Settings\Homer>man wmic
    'man' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
    operable program or batch file.

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  5. cygwin by jbolden · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'd consider this a troll. Cygwin is a RedHat port creating a Unixy environment in Windows. That is it is nothing more than a defective Linux that sort of works on Windows. Calls are wrapped... Its like arguing Linux features by using Wine.

    1. Re:cygwin by pbox · · Score: 0, Troll

      I don't consider it troll. The point of the article was to point out how interchangable Win and Linux is. My initial reaction was to point out how bull it is. Then I started thinking that the point is that almost all programs can be run on either, regardless of where they originate. From this point of view it is moot to talk about wrapped calls, as it sorta works, where sorta is between 97% and 98% (if you prefer to call that sorta).

      point.

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  6. Re:An important difference by Nailer · · Score: 0, Troll

    The rest of your post has already been responded to elsewhere, but...

    Windows has shipped with a C sharp compiler installed by default for the last three years.

    Also, the next version of Windows has a better shell than Unix, as it seperates content from presentation, making things more obout objects than text. You can downlaod a working beta of this shell now if you like.

    The main diference I find between Linux is:

    * Execute permission is turned off by default for new files in Linux, making life harder for worms.

    * Packaging is more popular on Linux (eliminating the need to download and run said executables). Verification rocks too.

    * Less 'brick-wall' troubleshooting (you can get access to the source, and there's better diagnostic tools out of hte box for Linux. Note I didn't say these weren't available for Windows.

    * No loss of data when you save to XML with Openoffice, versus Office 2003 (where the native file format will lose data when saved to XML).

    * its a fuckload easier to interoperate with something that's not proprietary.

  7. Total Cost by Truth_Quark · · Score: 0, Troll

    These compilers are not free, because to use them you have to invest in a windows operating system.

    Then there are the hidden cost of insecurity. Furthermore there is a very real cost to everyone of purchasing from a (convicted) monopolist.

    Coding in a free (as in speech) environment is more cost effective, because you can find why something is not working. If you go with Microsoft you often lose days trying to find a work-around for a bug, because your only tools are trial and error.

    So choosing the .NET development environment has many other costs. A responsible manager considers the Total Cost of Ownership when choosing a development language and environment.

  8. Re:An important difference by steeviant · · Score: 0, Troll

    So, you fail to see how being forced to install applications that you don't want, and can't uninstall limits your choice?

    I give up. You're obviously perfectly reasonable and sane. You win.

  9. Re:An important difference by quigonn · · Score: 1, Troll

    It's really funny that you need Free Software to make Windows usable. Heck, I am currently forced to work on Win32 (Metroworks Codewarrrior for Symbian OS only exists for this platform), and it would be impossible to survive (for me) on Win32 without cygwin, vim, gimp2, putty, Thunderbird, Firefox and gaim.

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  10. Re:An important difference by DerWulf · · Score: 0, Troll

    You said:

    They made their billions, they should be happy with that, anyone else certainly would be, for the sheer volume of non work they did to make all that loot.

    Google says:

    define:loot

    steal goods; take as spoils; "During the earthquake people looted the stores that were deserted by their owners" www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn


    How did MS steal the money they have? People bought their product as an act of free will. Accusing someone of a crime they didn't commit is, in fact, libel. You have just exposed yourself to a justified law suit for damages. Congratulations! I hope against hope that you will have to pay for your stupidity.

    Complaining about software MS doesn't ship is pure irony. Why just the other day the mighty US american court system decided that not even a webbrowser belongs to an OS. The EU found that preinstalling MediaPlayer is such a crime that MS should pay millions of dollars to soothe the pain inflicted on unsuspecting EU citizens. So lets hear your complains again: antivir? free? Symantec certainly would sue instantly. firewall? Also free? Ha, I can see the headlines 'Microsofts decision to bundle a free firewall with exceeding functionality with its Windows products is just another ploy against their competition'.

    One other thing: When windows was even more dominant then today, you and your zealot friends claimed that consumers had no choice. You justified your claims by noting that consumers didn't choose what you thought best for them. Now people are switching because linux merits it for them. And all you can do is to devalue that by interpreting it as malice against MS. Regular consumers are not feeling the same hatred as you do. They evaluate different options and decide what is best for them. They don't want to afford an ideology, the roots and aims of which only matter to a small percentage of technicals and users. This was true before linux came to play on the desktop or server market and it is still true now.

    Also, especially nations are known to routinely make very bad choices.

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  11. Re:An important difference by Drevux · · Score: 0, Troll

    For a great example of this on film I suggest you watch Fahrenheit 9/11.