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How Many TV Channels Will There Be In The Future?

The Importance of writes "MediaPost reports that, for the first time since it has been tracked, the average number of receivable television channels per household has stopped increasing and even decreased a bit. Perhaps we're not going to hit that 500 channel future people used to talk about. TV executives are, of course, worried about this and want answers. Is this just a temporary plateau or the beginning of a long-term trend? Will DVRs reverse this slide or are they part of the problem? Are we heading into a channel-free future or do channels still have value?"

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  1. This may be because by Kethinov · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This may be because TV is becoming less popular as a whole. Much of the younger generation spends its time on the internet now, and many just download their favorite TV shows. Losing a sizable percentage of viewers would easily facilitate a drop in available channels.

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    1. Re:This may be because by jokach · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In addition to just using the internet, the younger generation spend alot of time on video games as well (ps2, etc). I know for a fact my own son only knows where 3 channels are on the dial when we receive over 100, and they're the only three he watches because its focused programming (cartoons, sci-fi, nick). I have never seen him watch a prime-time network (ABC, NBC, etc) unless theres some crazy new cartoon comes on FoxKids ... its just the trend in the younger generation ...

    2. Re:This may be because by ScoLgo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Much of the younger generation spends its time on the internet now, and many just download their favorite TV shows."

      Spot on. Another reason for the decline of television viewing is games. Personally, I'd much rather plug in something interactive instead of passively sitting in front of the tube.

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    3. Re:This may be because by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Stop with that meme already!

      If you find tv-watching a passive experience, then frankly, you're doing it wrong.

      I get just as much interaction with tv as with a video game - whether it's watching an informative program, or a pure entertainment one.

      Of course, I usually watch tv with my brothers, and we tend to talk a lot during the ad breaks (or in the case of some programs, during it, to make jokes, comments, start discussions on what we just saw...)

      If tv is too passive for you, perhaps you better look at who you watch it with, and what programs you view - TV can be mentally-stimulating and fun...you've just got to make the effort :)

    4. Re:This may be because by cfuse · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Personally, I'd much rather plug in something interactive instead of passively sitting in front of the tube.

      I'd watch more TV if it did all of the following:

      1. Had pause, fast forward, rewind, etc.
      2. Had no ads.
      3. Wasn't so stupid/patronising/dull/American.
      4. Had no soap operas, advertising disguised as programming, sport or other irrelevances.
      5. I could tell it what I liked and it could go and find more of it.

      Watching TV on my computer lets *me* control the medium, not the other way around. My time is valuable, why waste it on crap I'm not interested in?

      Turn the TV off and go for a walk!

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  3. Is this a suprise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Who has time to even browse the content of that many channels? It's too much information, most of dubious quality to begin with. With the fact that more people have to work longer hours just to make ends meet in the current fascist system, there is less time available to watch.

    Maybe pay people more for less work and then they'll have more time to watch your extra channels!

  4. probably not all TV execs are worried... by jdallien · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The TV execs who were busy inventing new specialty channels are likely worried, but folks over at the traditional major networks might not feel so bad about a decrese in channel numbers. More choices pull audiences away from the mainstream primetime shows where the major networks want as many viewers as possible (just like everyone else does).

    As channel numbers grow advertising dollars must be getting fragmented as well. Harder to sell ads on new channels when advertisers are already trying to cover as many markets as they can.

    1. Re:probably not all TV execs are worried... by 0racle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No one would have to worry if they stopped worrying about raw viewership and worried about actually putting some decent programming on. Specialty channels are a great idea, except they only have 4-6 hours a day of unique programming which is repeated 4-6 times a day. If you saw Star Trek at noon, you don't watch it again at 4 then at 11 or whatever, because you already saw that episode.

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  5. There Won't Be Any Channels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    TV Programming as we know it will be obsolete. All video will eventually become streaming to individual televisions so that humans don't have to modify their schedules for shows. The only real time people will watch real-time broadcasted shows are for the new episode of a sitcom, a sports event, or a special/awards show.

  6. Don't we have enough? by Mister+Transistor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't 7 HBO's and 5 Showtimes and 100 PPV's enough?

    They don't seem have enough programming to fill the channels that are existing. Try surfing around 2:00 AM - Do we really need 200 more Infomercial channels?

    I guess they could make do with a few more p0rn channels, though :)

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  7. Only one.. If the user controls what's on it. by the_rajah · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I thought that the idea was that eventually we'd select the content that we wanted which would then be delivered via broadband technology to each user at the time that we wanted to see it. No more of this lousey, "what's on at 8:00?" stuff and if you wanted to see episode 34 of some show you'd just call it up.

    Honestly, there's so little on TV that I want to watch anymore. I get my news via Internet so I can select which stories I am interested in and I can get a lot more detail than the 30 second spot news items that seems so prevalent nowadays. For movies, I go to the theater or rent/buy a DVD. The latter allow me to watch when I want and even pause if I need a break for an incoming phone call or to go to the toilet or refrigerator.

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  8. Seems inevitable to me. by sbaker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Given that there are a finite number of viewers - and the market is pretty much saturated, who would be the extra eyeballs to expand the market?

    Whether TV is paid for by advertising or by subscription: that finite number of people fixes the total amount of cash that's available for making programs.

    If there are more channels - then there must either be vastly more reruns - or vastly lower production costs for new shows. Neither of those are very acceptable to either viewership or advertisers - both of whom want new, high quality shows.

    I don't understand how anyone ever thought this would be a sustainable model.

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  9. TV is obsolete by mabu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Unless the major media find some way of controlling the Internet, television will become obsolete. Nobody trusts the networks to deliver objective news; 99.9% of the stuff on television is crap.

    The Internet gives people the ability to get what they want when they want, kind of like Tivo, but as innovative as Tivo is, it's still at the mercy of the cable companies who continue to wrestle for control over what the viewer should have access to.

    As soon as the technology makes video-on-demand more practical and homogenous, TV will die, as will the major networks.

    Then we'll employ sophisticated content distribution schemes, similar in nature to RSS allowing users to create their own "channel" of content they are interested in. By the time corporate america realizes that this is a formidible force, it will be too late, but then the fearmongering will begin: regulation, control, jockeying for manipulation of the backbones and NAPs, but still end users will (hopefully) fight for their right to publish and get whatever content they want online.

  10. Re:I'll tell you why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I would rather have a system that groups by shows instead of channels...

  11. Re:I'll tell you why. by w42w42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Congress has talked about doing away with bundling, letting subscribers pick and choose channels. If that happens, watch the crud channels die away as no one subscribes to them - accentuating this apparent trend of fewer channels.

    The ironic part is that those channels that may not get the audience now may in the future under a law like this thrive, driving other channels out.

    Something else that I find ironic is such a scheme would promote a free market in cable channels - quality would matter again. If Congress doesn't pass this law though I suspect it will only be because of contributions from 'free market' capitalists heading these cable companies.

  12. Re:I'll tell you why. by LostCluster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    However, pay-per-channel would case some of the crammed-on spinoff networks such as NickToons, Cartoon Network's Boomerang, and ESPNews to falter. There just wouldn't be enough demand for those to continue.

    Sure, some new niche networks would form based on demand, but others that nobody asked for would be checking out.

  13. I don't know what it will be by melted · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But here's what it has to be in order for me to pay money for satellite/cable:
    1. Channels are sold "a la carte". If I want only Discovery and Food Network I should be able to purchase just them.
    2. Paid (i.e. non-free) channels DO NOT air commercials. You can't have it both ways, folks. Either make the programming free or don't air commercials.
    3. Pay per view stuff is a BUCK per movie, not 4.95. Set the price at whatever you want for events (sports, etc.), but movies can be rented locally on DVD for a buck a night. Therefore $4.95 is an unreasonable price.

  14. Feeder system by gordgekko · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't know about other people, but I view channels simply as a feeder system. I have a long list of shows that I've programmed into my VCR to tape and I watch what I want when I have the time. For people with PVRs and the ability to record programs the system might think you're interested in, it must be an even better way of watching television.

    I honestly believe that quality of the best programs has risen further than anything we had in the past but that the average quality has gone down because of all the channels that have to be filled up, obviously creating a situation where a lot of dreck is being produced. Under that paradigm, there is no reason to even bother with the notion of 'channels'.

    If you watch TV as I and PVR owners do, then there are obviously a lot of channels you have no need for. Women's TV? Spanish/Italian/French etc channels? E!? Sorry, don't need them, don't want 'em. I could ditch half the channels I have and wouldn't even notice.

    I probably haven't explained myself clearly but I think that's one reason why the number of channels people are subscribing to are shrinking.

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  15. Re:TV is obsolete - not so by mabu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When TV first came on the scene, it was predicted that radio would go away. When the VCR was invented some thought that cinemas would vanish. Neither has happened. Even oldfashioned books, magazines and newspapers are still very much alive.

    Just because a new way of distributing information and entertainment appears, doesn't mean the total demise of the previous technologies.


    You have a point. However, I think the significance of your point is questionable. I would argue that television DID kill radio. Radio as a focal point of news and entertainment as it was prior to the proliferation of television is no more. It has been replaced by television. Radio still exists not because it hasn't been encroached by television, but because there are a few "convenience issues" that make television impractical where radio works -- the most obvious of this is in vehicles. What do people do when they come home? Do they turn on the TV or the radio? The vast majority turn on the television. Radio is dead as a mainstream means of communicating, informing and entertaining the populace at large. The last few nails in the coffin were laid down by companies like Clear Channel that have sought to make the medium even more soulless.

    Television is heading the same route, primarily due to it's ironic ability to oversaturate itself and its own value as a productive source of information and quality entertainment.

    Anyone who has had the pleasure to own a Tivo unit recognizes that such technology has the capability to "save television" but because of the outdated desire of media companies wishing to control the content their listeners have access to (or more importantly, the terms and limitations of how that content should be accessed), they're going to kill the expansion of Tivo and the last hope for the medium.

    The Internet is definitely NOT like radio or television - there will always be a place for radio and tv, but when I say it's "obsolute", I don't mean people won't listen or watch, but the value of the medium to the people will be greatly diminished in lieu of newer technologies that give consumers more choices. More channels of CRAP however, are not more choices.

    There is a fundamental paradigm shift now occuring in television that earlier occurred in radio, that isn't as prominent on the Internet. That's the homogonization of content. Radio became too formulaic and narrow in the demographic market it sought to attract; the same thing has happened to television, leaving a larger-yet-more-widely-demographically-dispersed group of people feeling disenfranchised that are now turning to the Internet as their new source of information and entertainment. And this trend is increasing, which to me, indicates tv is obsolete.

  16. Companies that whine. by edunbar93 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    RIAA: People are downloading what they want off the internet and not buying the shite we shovel onto them through our old distribution channels! Save us!
    MPAA: People are downloading what they want off the internet and not buying the shite we shovel onto them through our old distribution channels! Save us!
    Cable TV: People are downloading what they want off the internet and not buying the shite we shovel onto them through our old distribution channels! Save us!

    These are people who just got run over by the cluetrain. It came, it tried to deliver, but the station was empty because the receivers were sitting on the tracks having their lunch break. It's really a shame, because if they were paying attention they would know that their customers have been complaining to them for years about how they're not getting what they want, what it is they want, and how it should be delivered.

    And now they want the government to save them. Puhleeze.

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  17. More channels == More crap by Fujisawa+Sensei · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Like we really need 3 more golf channels, and 6 football channels, and a dozen more shopping channels.

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  18. TV in the future... by spaztik1 · · Score: 0, Insightful

    will not exist because computers are quickly taking over the role of multimedia entertainment systems. Why have a TV, stereo and a collection of video game consoles when you can have one computer with a big flatscreen monitor?