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Moore Approves Fahrenheit 9/11 Downloads
13.7BillionYears writes "The Sunday Herald reports that Michael Moore has expressed his approval of Fahrenheit 9/11 being downloaded through networks like BitTorrent and eDonkey2000. He also champions a very Lessig-esque outlook in his reasoning. Quentin Tarantino's earlier support for such practices is also mentioned. Meanwhile, Lion's Gate says it has no plans to oppose the practice."
the truth shall set US free?
not if the fauxking nazis have anything left to say about it?
tell 'em robbIE?
Wow, exactly what France said of Hitler ...
Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
One: He is an artist, and is extremely flattered anyone would want to watch his movie. Quentin Tarentino likely falls into this category.
Two: His movie is worthless political propagands, not so unlike an infomercial.
Anyone want to guess which it is?
Dude, this is slashdot,... extreme left positions are always welcome here. Just look at michael and cmdr_taco.
By virtue of the fact that they keep headlining this michael moore stuff, you should know, that your french lovin, anti-american opinions will be highly regarded.
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Documentary is not the appropriate word for this movie. "Op-Ed", and Moore himself calls it is OK, as would be "fiction," "fantasy," or "docudrama." But not documentary.
Happy 4th of July, all. While I'll be enjoying beer, hotdogs, and fireworks, Michael Moore will probably be shitting on a U.S. flag with Fidel Castro, Kim Jung Il, and Jacques Chirac. Wonder if this free download thing is for real or Moore bullshit... that man can barely speak one sentence without lying or contradicting himself.
It's only a documentary if it's factual. It is trivially shown that Moore manipulates facts, fabricates figures and rewrites history to communicate his opinion in his movies. That means that either Moore's films are fiction or he's lying . . . or he's just plain stupid.
It's okay to have an opinion. It's okay to share your opinion with other people. It's not okay to fabricate things and pretend they're the truth - that's called a lie.
What message? You don't actually take that seriously do you? I thought the only one who was taking it seriously was Moore himself. Even the president and the GOP aren't taking it seriously.
Everyone I know saw it as a poorly done work that would have gone nowhere except for the hype.
. Quit playing Monopoly with Bill. Switch to one of many non-Microsoft products today.
I saw this documentary yesterday and I was both shocked and impressed. I even cried a lot.
Moore is good at what he does: propagandize. A thorough, well-researched, well-written essay on the topic would probably be more informative than a movie, but it would also be a lot more boring. Moore can "reach" a lot more (stupid) people with a movie that has lots of "scary" and "touching" scenes.
This decision from Michael Moore is not surprising as he has always said that his goal is to touch as many people as possible. I think he simply doesn't care about the money.
I think he does care about money, as his not-quite-middle-class lifestyle would suggest. In this case, more people being swayed to his cause is worth more to him in the long run than some quick cash. He has his priorities in order.
Besides that, I think the documentary raises some points while I think Michael Moore goes too far in some others. But this movie definitely deserves its Golden Palm.
Answer me this: if I make a movie that has loads and loads of fabricated bullshit, but I make a lot of people cry with it, does it deserve a Golden Palm? Is being "moving" and "passionate" more important than being factual and reasonable? It sounds like you think the answer ot that question is yes, though I imagine that you would qualify it with a statement like, "...yes, but only if the said movie advances the superstitious beliefs that I adhere to!"
Please, go there, watch it. Give it a chance.
No, thank you. The movie is based on presuppositions that I reject. You can't get a true conclusion from a false premise, so why should I waste my time seeing this pile o' poo? To see some "moving" scenes? There are plenty of movies that provide that without having to endure stupid, Leftist progaganda.
Oh and I'm French and I'm living in the US so I'm ready to be modded down and insulted.
J'adore la culture, la langue, et la cuisine francais. Mais je deteste la "leftisme," si c'est francais ou americian. Une culture riche n'excuse pas la stupidite, et la socialisme est stupide.
I don't make the rules. I just make fun of them.
You fail to note that all the French who died were shot in the back.
"Why did they cancel my favorite Sci-Fi show? I downloaded ALL the episodes!"
Can you imagine what Liberals children must be like? Imagine some left-wing dipshit taking the kids to see this film. Then the kids start thinking Moore is a role model and shit.
It just seems hilarious, because while conservatives will have their kids learn from Reagan, the Pope, William F Buckley, etc. Liberals will have these role models like fatty Moore, screamin Dean, boring Gore, Stuart Smalley, Genine Garafalo, etc.
A generation of mentally handicapped in the making! The new indentured classs. I can't wait... lol
Tubby Reisenthal's statement that you can download his movie on the internet still will not correct the glaring inaccuracies in F911. It is just more smoke to distract you from the content.
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
Anyone who dresses like Micheal Moore isn't too concerned about money.
I'm sure Moore is pleased to know that people buy into his image.
We think that making money is fine as long as you're not destroying people's lives
What qualifies and quantifies "ruining people's lives"? Be specific. Don't give examples. I want to know how you measure it.
and ruining the environment
What qualifies and quantifies "ruining the environment"? Be specific. Don't give examples. I want to know how you measure it.
The sooner you realize that you can't answer these questions without falling back on subjective, emotional, and superstitious arguments, you'll see while I reject Leftism wholesale. Your expected response to your admitting your failure will be to call me "unfeeling" or "cruel," which is an ad hominem argument.
I don't make the rules. I just make fun of them.
I ask you, how can a comment praising Fahrenheit 9/11 without providing any supporting proof be modded +5 informative, while a comment questioning the validity of the movie is modded down into oblivion as Overrated? Are Moore supporters so unwilling to allow anyone to question any of the points presented in the "documentary" which has somehow attained the status of scripture? Read my whole rebuttal and point out where I am wrong; modding down a person's opinion instead of rebutting it is nothing more than cowardice, akin to asking for Fahrenheit 9/11 to be banned from all movie theatres.
Uttering logically derived and empirically supported truths to the disciples of the orthodox establishment.
Read that article. Please.
Yes, I am ready to be modded down.
You lefties have a strange definition of patriotism.
Well, for starters, I think most Americans are unhappy with the current government. I can't speak for the midwest, as I live in California, but most people I know hate what Bush&Co. have done with the country, and this movie is just a convenient means to point the finger at him.
Michael Moore distortes reality to promote his Extreme loony left ideals. You can take any documentary he has made and pick it apart scene by scene. One example was his first scene in BFC where
he goes into a bank opens an account, and walkes out with a double barrel. First of all there were no working guns at the bank, they were all displays. Second he had to wait a few weeks to get his gun, although you would sure never know it the way he edited it. Michael Moore hates America through George Bush, open your eyes.
So tell me then, tell us those SAME facts with a good spin on Bush? Bet you can't, it's not possible.
I recommend the ABC BitTorrent client for Windows, too.
Two other movies and 35 recently published books support everything Michael Moore says in Fahrenheit 9/11 about U.S. government corruption, and much, much more:
Unprecedented Corruption: A guide to conflict of interest in the U.S. government. Problems with Slashdotted? Try http://www.hevanet.com/peace/usgovcorruption.htm
There were several books published before and during the Clinton administration about former U.S. President Bill Clinton. However, the situation with Clinton and previous presidents was not even remotely comparable. There are many more books discussing the Bush administration, and the negative issues are far, far more serious.
Both of the other movies, Uncovered: The Whole Truth about the Iraq War and Unprecedented - 2000 Presidential Election are available by BitTorrent, also.
There are links to reviews of all the movies and books in the article linked above, but no BitTorrent links yet.
Now then, given the fact that Bush won by an extremely small fraction of votes
Yup. it was 5 to 4.
In fact, Al Gore won 500,000 more popular votes, and half a percentage point.
Despite howls of scorn from the Right to the tune of "get over it," there is ample evidence that Gore won the popular vote in Florida, too. Of course, the idiotic Gore campaign was so lame it couldn't even win Tennessee. However, the Bush administration should wear a scarlett A for its voting adultery in Florida in 2000.
Isn't it funny when mentioning bittorrent all the pirates come out of the woodwork recommending the best "clientz".
Isn't it also funny that mentioning 9-11 causes all the liberals to come out of the woodwork?
Coincidence? perhaps.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
So you expect, as a non-paying customer, Michael Moore to go out and waste his own money and/or time to bring you a top-quality movie rip of his film, do you?
It's the only way I'll ever see one of his films. Mikey Moore is to the world of politics what crapflooding trolls are to Slashdot discussions. What's curious is that a lot of people seem to want to pay Moore for his "services" and that he's given so much credit by the so-called "left".
So Mikey Moore won't send the IP "gestapo" around to me if I do copy his film? So what? If you copy this post all over Slashdot and Usenet and IRC and post it to your Blog, I won't sue you in court myself.... does that make my message any more worthwhile?
As to the "open source way"... no. You've got it wrong. If Mikey Moore's movie were open source he would be releasing a decent copy of the film in some machine-readable format. Just like open source developers give users the source code to the software. What you describe is not "open source", it's "freeware".
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How does it taste, sucking Moore's butt?
too bad over 15,000 French didn't survive the French last summer since they were too busy on vacation to give a damn.
arielb
Thanks for the synopsis.
Where can I find the videos of the torture and murder commited by the American military intelligence and prison guards?
I am especially interested in this so called "feigned suffocation or drowning" as I want to compare it with the movie "Die Another Day" where North Korea tortured James Bond in this fashion.
The US and the UK are illegal warmongers.
... Simpson... DUH!
Pacifists oppose unnecessary, illegal wars.
Batman, pacisfists are biased against the US and the UK! Holly Bat-logical-thinking!
Well, in the immortal words of tha great thinker, Homer
IANAL but write like a drunk one.