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iPod: Your Portable Corporate Hellraiser

MrAndrews writes "In an article on ZDNet UK, a Gartner says that "Companies should consider banning portable storage devices such as Apple's iPod from corporate networks as they can be used to introduce malware or steal corporate data" I recently came into contact with a similar policy at a consulting firm that was concerned that top-secret information might escape through my USB watch, and made me leave it at the front desk every day. In that case, I know it was absurd overkill ... but is this concern a legitimate concern? No more music on the way into the office?"

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  1. Also reccomended: Welding Drives into Chassis... by FatSean · · Score: 0, Funny

    You mean...the iPod software spreads virii!!! OH MY GOD!

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    Blar.
  2. Are Those Corporate Secrets in Your Pocket? by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...or are you just glad to see me?

    Seriously, the barn door's been open and the horse halfway to Topeka on this one for a while. Who needs an iPod? I've been carrying around virtually my entire business on one of these things for over a year. Sure, take away my music player, phone, key chain, watch, whatever, I'm a big boy and you pay me enough to play along, but at what point short of a strip search and replacing the pink-haired receptionist with a Brinks guard to watch over the stash does this policy become a smidge unwieldy?

    (However, I do throw my whole-hearted support behind any policy which confiscates iPods (or sunglasses, for that matter) from any too-cool-for-the-room tool who doesn't stow them shortly after he enters the building...)

    1. Re:Are Those Corporate Secrets in Your Pocket? by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 3, Funny

      Congrats; you've successfully identified yourself as a style-hating, youth-jealous, stodgy old man.

      Where've you been? I established that here years ago.

      You self-absorbed kids need to pay better attention...

  3. the 5th pocket by Diclophis · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is really there for you to stash your usb memory device.

  4. Re:Not so "absurd" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    So by the same argument, you would allow people to take guns onto planes?

  5. Easy to bypass riduculous security precautions by mirio · · Score: 4, Funny

    You know, I could bypass such security precautions very easily with a USB keyfob and tightly squeezed buttocks....

    1. Re:Easy to bypass riduculous security precautions by Araneas · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or hang the sucker from a Prince Albert. Yes I'm not particularily trying to be funny. The first couple of times through, the security guards detector-wands pick up your jewellery. You demonstrate that there's nothing there worry about. Subsequently you bring in the thumb drive, no problem with any beeps from down there as you have established a "reason" most guards won't want to check.

    2. Re:Easy to bypass riduculous security precautions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny


      You know, I could bypass such security precautions very easily with a USB keyfob and tightly squeezed buttocks....


      Note to self:

      Do not borrow mirio's USB keyfob.

    3. Re:Easy to bypass riduculous security precautions by SilentScream · · Score: 3, Funny

      So you're saying to be a good data thief it helps to be anal retentive?

  6. At the very large financial corporation I work at by M-2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    At one point the corporate machine-support staff tried to set up the following:

    • All laptops in the building must be formatted to the corporate image (personal or not, connected to the network or not)
    • All PDAs had to be hard-reset before leaving the building unless your manager approved it
    • Any other device with a USB port had to be opened and checked by the desktop support group

    The sneaky bastards kept trying to steal my laptop, my PDA and my Nomad Jukebox to do this. I kept catching them and throwing them out of my cube (at one point, literally, as he refused to leave until he had formatted my laptop's hard drive and I had to roll him out in my chair and overturn it in the corridor).

    Finally, they stopped that after they did this to an senior VP and erased the powerpoint presentation he had on his laptop. Heads rolled for THAT little debacle. The funny part was that his machine was already work-provided, he just didn't work in our building, so they didn't know him...

  7. Employee concerns... by Luckboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    You know, if your employees actually CARE about hooking up their iPods or other MP3 players at work, you should be more concerned about what your employees are actually DOING, as opposed to what data could be stolen. My iPod's Library is managed by my home machine, not my work machine, and the only reason I bring it inside is to keep it out of my hot car during the day. I don't even bring a cable that would be compatible.

    I'll just burn the site licensed software to CD and take it home that way...

  8. Re:Not so "absurd" by ooPo · · Score: 2, Funny

    When shooting becomes an acceptable way to pass the time on a plane... sure!

  9. Re:Not so "absurd" by Seth+Finklestein · · Score: 3, Funny

    Guns don't kill people. iPods kill people.

    Sincerely,
    Tom Ridge
    Homeland Security Chief and Microsoft beneficiary

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    I'm not Seth Finkelstein. I still speak the truth.
  10. Daddy's USB Drive by Carcass666 · · Score: 2, Funny

    This USB Drive was in your Daddy's pocket when he was shot down outside the office. He was captured and put in a Boeing prison camp. Now he knew if the suits ever saw the drive it'd be confiscated. The way your Daddy looked at it, that drive was your birthright. And he'd be damned if and dopeheads were gonna put their greasy corporate hands on his boy's birthright. So he hid it in the one place he knew he could hide somethin'. His ass. Five long years, he wore this drive up his ass. Then when he died of disentary, he gave me the drive. I hid with uncomfortable hunk of plastic up my ass for two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family. And now, little man, I give the drive to you.

  11. Re:just the reverse here.. by MoxCamel · · Score: 2, Funny
    teaching a user about network storage or even using the IRDA file transfer was unsucessful... yet these dolts took to using the thumb drives like it was second nature.

    Wow...that's some dumb users. We tell ours to "put your files on your H: drive, or they won't be backed up." For 95% of our users, that seems to work pretty well. For the other 5%...even thumb drives would do nothing more than collect drool.

  12. Re:From the Fascist Department by Safety+Cap · · Score: 2, Funny
    Please explain how to secure a network so that hte users dont have access to data but can still do their job.
    Simple: issue everyone a specially-hardened computer.
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  13. Why stop at corporate offices? by nxg125 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just look at all the bad stuff you can do with an iPod... people really shouldn't be let out of the house with one of these things!

    Have iPod, Will Secretly Bootleg

  14. Friend of a friend story... by SnapShot · · Score: 3, Funny

    A friend of a friend mentioned that when the iPod first came out he saw a student "jammin'" to some tunes while checking out the new Macintosh computers at the University Bookstore.

    A closer look revealed that the student had the firewire cable attached to the demo mac and was busily downloading all of the applications on the mac.

    Pretty clever though I would never condone such behavior.

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  15. can't stop me by ch-chuck · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's why I got the subdermal implant with 16mb flash and bluetooth. Just copy data to my stomach and walk out, search all you want.

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  16. Pulp fiction: the USB pendrive. by supergiovane · · Score: 3, Funny
    The Pen Drive
    written by Quentin Tarantino & Roger Avary

    Captain Koons: Hello, little man. Boy, I sure heard a bunch about you. See, I was a good friend of your dad's. We were in that .com pit of hell together over five years. Hopefully...you'll never have to experience this yourself, but when two men are in a situation like me and your Dad were, for as long as we were, you take on certain responsibilities of the other. If it had been me who had not made it, Major Coolidge would be talkin' right now to my son Jim. But the way it turned out is I'm talkin' to you, Butch. I got somethin' for you.
    (The Captain sits down and pulls a USB flash drive from his pocket)
    This pendrive I got here was first purchased by your great-grandfather during the first .com boom. It was bought in a little general store in Knoxville, Tennessee. Made by the first company to ever make USB drives. Up till then people just carried loads of floppies. It was bought by private Doughboy Erine Coolidge on the day he set sail for Paris. It was your great-grandfather's job drive and he wore it everyday he was in that job. When he had done his duty, he went home to your great-grandmother, took the pendrive off, put it an old coffee can, and in that can it stayed 'til your granddad Dane Coolidge was called upon by his country to go overseas and fight Microsoft once again. This time they called it Browser War II. Your great-grandfather gave this pendrive to your granddad for good luck. Unfortunately, Dane's luck wasn't as good as his old man's. Dane was a Java programmer and he was fired -- along with the other programmers at the battle of .NET. Your granddad was facing death, he knew it. None of those boys had any illusions about ever leavin' that job alive. So three days before Microsoft took the market, your granddad asked an Unix sysadmin of Winocki, a man he had never met before in his life, to deliver to his infant son, who he'd never seen in the flesh, his USB pendrive. Three days later, your granddad was dead. But Winocki kept his word. After the war was over, he paid a visit to your grandmother, delivering to your infant father, his Dad's pendrive. This pendrive. (holds it up, long pause) This drive was on your Daddy's pocket when he was caught near Redmond. He was captured, put in a Microsoft campus. He knew if the gooks ever saw the pendrive it'd be confiscated, taken away. The way your Dad looked at it, that pendrive was your birthright. He'd be damned if any slopes were gonna put their greasy yella hands on his boy's birthright. So he hid it in the one place he knew he could hide something. His ass. Five long years, he wore this pendrive up his ass. Then he died of dysentery, he gave me the drive. I hid this uncomfortable hunk of silicon up my ass two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family. And now, little man, I give the pendrive to you.

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  17. Re:At the very large financial corporation I work by sonicattack · · Score: 2, Funny

    anyways, do they check digital cameras? that little SD card can hold more than photos...

    One should not forget that cameras also can be used to photograph screenfuls of hexdumps.

    Data can also be converted to strobes of light and pulsed out through the Caps Lock-led, into a receiver cunningly hidden in the fabric of ones clothing.

    A full body search, including a cavity search should be mandatory at every workplace, at any time an employee enters the premises (including returning from lunch breaks).

    Don't forget to check that those eyeballs aren't in fact high-tech camera implants still photographing hexdumps, after the employee left the camera (presumably recovered from a cavity search) at the security checkpoint.

  18. Re:Not so "absurd" by JamesP · · Score: 2, Funny

    Something like...

    cp top_secret_document.doc britney_spears_toxic.mp3
    cp britney_spears_toxic.mp3 /mnt/usbdevice

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  19. Re:From the Fascist Department by dbc001 · · Score: 2, Funny

    My office has recently instituted a new policy: employees are no longer allowed to bring paper or pens to work. Unfortunately allowing people to bring these instruments is just too much of a security risk, and the data we work with is extremely sensitive. You can get around the ban by getting approval from a manager and then checking the equipment in with security, but you also have to consent to being searched at any time.

  20. Ahem! It's Cavity Search Time...Step To The Right by tilleyrw · · Score: 2, Funny

    What more can I add?

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  21. Re:Not so "absurd" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Of course, that could also work against you. The security goons might take you out back and start pimp-slapping you after finding out that you listen to Mariah Carey.

  22. Other means of stealing by jaghatarjankare · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have a photographic memory. When working on military projects, I have to leave it at home.

  23. Re:Not so "absurd" by Octagon+Most · · Score: 5, Funny

    "What's to stop you simply encrypting the data, then wrapping it up or tagging it on the end of valid MP3 songs?"

    Honesty. Dislike of prison. Attachment to receiving a paycheck. Fear of John Ashcroft.

    Any number of things.

  24. Re:Second step? by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Seems to me the first step should be to disable USB on machines which do not need it in the BIOS then lock the BIOS....

    Sounds like a good idea. This should keep those crum-bums from stealing data from my workstation with their USB dri- hey, why did my mouse stop working???

  25. Re:Not so "absurd" by MORTAR_COMBAT! · · Score: 3, Funny

    Me: Gun Nerd.

    Gee, with a name like grassy knoll I would never have guessed...

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  26. Why don't they also recommend banning by melted · · Score: 2, Funny

    EMPLOYEES. You know, those sneaky stealing bastards may remember something and simply re-type it at home if they want. I personally know a couple of folks who can memorize 3-4 pages of text (not just plain text, but with formulas, diagrams, etc.) by simply reading them once.

  27. Re:Not so "absurd" by RevAaron · · Score: 2, Funny

    Shit, if someone was going to pay me a million dollars to steal Project X from my employer- and I was immoral enough to do it- I would put the USB key drive in my bunghole. I mean, it's a million bucks, right?

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    Working toward a usable PDA environment in the spirit of Newton OS: Dynapad
  28. Re:Not so "absurd" by Rick.C · · Score: 2, Funny
    In the name of convenience, we won't look through it every time, and you can still keep it.

    Years ago I contracted at a military base. Contractors were required to submit their briefcases to exit searches. We were searched _every_ time we left that base.

    What were the security guards looking for? Computer print-outs. Green-bar paper. That was the only thing on their contraband list. Tapes, diskettes, even laser printer print-outs were OK. But just don't try to sneak out with any of that green-bar "computer print-outs" because they'd nab you every time!
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  29. Re:Not so "absurd" by maximilln · · Score: 2, Funny

    and I was immoral enough to do it

    It's not about morality. When the IRS is poised to ruin your life, the bank is gunning for your mortgage, and your 1st son was just kidnapped by Canadian tourists for a $250k ransom... well, that million is looking much more moral now, isn't it?

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  30. Re:Old fashioned iPod... by sanctimonius+hypocrt · · Score: 2, Funny

    To them, that sounds like technical nonsense that makes you even more suspecious. "He mentioned fire!"

    Someone told me this story:

    In the late 1890's, while the Ottoman empire was still around, a machine was being imported into Turkey. The customs inspector asked what it said on the side of the box. The importer translated, "This machine makes eight hundred revolutions every minute." The inspector said, "Well, you can't bring it in here. Revolutions are forbidden."


  31. Re:Not so "absurd" by confused+one · · Score: 2, Funny

    You must have missed the part where he was on a military ship in a secure area. This isn't a problem :/

  32. Re:They /are/ similar by The12thRonin · · Score: 2, Funny

    A 500mm round? Have fun getting that BATTLESHIP through security.
    But then again, if you do, there's other problems besides that...