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Backup Tapes: Alive And Kicking
yootje writes "The Register runs an article about the future of backup tapes, which looks pretty good. Although some people say backup tapes are dead, tape systems continue to evolve. To prove that, The Register intoduces some new products that are about to come, like the SL8500."
Until optical media surpasses them in storage capacity, ease of use, and reliability, I don't see tape technology going anywhere. They serve a specific purpose and serve it well.
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Since prior stories have illuminated optical (laser) retention problems, tape does not seem as outdated as it once was. Tape's biggest problem now seems mainly cost. I had a 5GB Travan in a system and the per-tape cost was around $40. DVD blanks are around $1 for about the same amount of storage.
We tried backup to disk in house to see how it would behave - backing up big SQL Server clusters.
The problem that killed it for us is when you're transfering to an 80 gig drive over firewire, you completely hog the hell out of the system, making it all but unavailable during the meantime. I don't know of any way to "throttle" the backup, there's probably some obscure tweak though.
Tape transfer rates are comparitively slow, which leave plenty of room for the computer to carry on it's tasks. Sure it might take all night to do a full back up, but the servers available during that time.
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You're living in the past.
A RAID-5 array with hot spares or a remote backup site is much more reliable and cost-effective.
With tape drives you have to cope with tape standards changing every year. Want to read tapes that are more than 5 years old? Not a chance. Want to back up anything above 40 GB? You have to buy incredibly expensive DLT instead of DAT, most likely with a robotic tape change mechanism. Costs you about $40000.
If anything, that's a mug's game.
We use 4TB of SCSI Disks, and removable 250GB firewire drives for backup. Tape has let me down way to many times. Plus, I can restore from a catalog with in seconds. I would love to see tape do that.
Also imagine trying to do disk drive rotation for off-site storage versus the same thing for tapes. I'd prefer tapes any day given the delicate nature of disk drives.
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The problem with all of these endless new tape technologies is that after they come they (or their vendors) tend to become lethargic and lose interest in the whole process so that six months later they're trying to sell you yet another replacement technology.
That's fine for something like a computer that can run the same software each generation, but for tape devices the need to change media is like having to re-code your application in a new language every time you upgrade the computer. People don't want to do it.
Most customers want a backup media that will still be viable in at least seven years because of legal requirements. That can mean needing to be able to buy a drive that can read their tapes 5-12 years from now. How many of these new tape technologies will have that kind of staying power?
The standard 9-track 2400 foot open reel tape served the computer industry for about 30 years, providing a standard storage and interchange mechanism for pretty much every computer larger than a PC. The Internet has rendered the need for an interchange mechanism less critical, but the instability in the archival storage formats is now giving people serious headaches.
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Only need to backup 160GB (do not forsee that growing in 5 years). Gonna just buy two 160GB IDE HDD's & 2 firewire enclosures.
~$340 for both. Keep one plugged in for daily backup, keep the other in a safe place... swap them every month.
Pretty cheap, plenty fast, and won't take up much space!
They also forget to mention that you can't just disconnect a disk array, send it off site for 30 days, and expect to easily restore it when it comes back. With tapes, even if the OS it was originally backed up on is Windows, and the new OS was Linux, it will work (seemlessly if the backup software allows). The other thing that most people ignore besides the above mentioned sneaker quality is the larger cost associated with rack space, power, and cooling when using disk. I can stack a hell of a lot more TB/sq ft. with tapes than even some of the highest density hard drives, and I won't have to pay as much for power. Also disk systems produce considerably more heat than a tape library.
None of this really matters to small installations, but to enterprise installations these things are a lot more important.
I sell servers to small SOHO type businesses, doctors, lawyers, accountants, etc. There is never large amounts of data but it does exceed the CD-ROM limits and DVD are just to unreliable. It is too easy to burn a coaster and they have poor shelf life. And even at 9gb they are often too small to put all the data on one disk.
And getting the office receptionist(often the person who will do the job of managing the media) to swap disks is often asking too much. It has to fit on one tape/disk/whatever or it isn't going to get done.
Tape especially DAT drives give most bang for the buck.
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I always wondered why they don't use off the shelf VHS tapes for data backup. You could probably build an inexpensive, yet reasonably reliable backup unit from the mechanism+record/playback heads of a low end VCR.
You said it yourself. "Reasonably reliable." For the vast majority of us in the business world, the whole reason that we make backups is because disks themselves are only "Reasonably reliable." I'm paying for "highly reliable" or greater. Without it, I'll take my chances on a nice RAID array with redundant error-checking controllers or something and not worry. But if I don't know that my backups are good, then they're almost worthless.
As others have mentioned elsewhere, this brings up the good point - test your backups! And your whole disaster recovery scenario for that matter. If you wouldn't bet the company on a test, make sure that you're not betting the company on the real thing.
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In that case, I think we're on the same page. For under a TB, especially if it's not a lot of hosts to back up, I'd go with hard drives, too. It's hard to make an argument for tapes with backup sets that small.
Now, for 90PB, I think we'd both have a hard time finding a HD-based solution that would be anywhere near the price/performance of tape.
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For one I think CERN expects to generate on the order of 4 petabytes of data per year in a year or two. I think other large particle colliders may generate the same amount of data. Other places that might generate the same amount of that are pharmaceutical and genetics/proteomics/biology related projects.
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I dunno about you but my DDS4 DAT system tells me it needs cleaning with an LED, too. DAT works great so long as you respect its limitations: you don't use the same tapes over and over for years; you archive to them for years.
No, the point being exactly what I said previously: sometimes it's quite a bit cheaper, sometimes it's quite a bit more expensive. Cost of a hard drive and it's enclosure comes to under $100 per 120GB. Nobody wants to keep just one backup, regardless of how much data they have, so figure at least three. The drive itself can hold daily, weekly, monthy, and yearly snapshots for 95% of the businesses in America.
Real world example: local company I contract with has 20 employees, making them over twice the size of 90% of American businesses. Their central fileserver has 40GB on its main drive. The 120GB backup drives can hold a full backup and several years worth (remains to be seen how many) of incremental backups, that users can easily dig through if they want to find a file they may have had a few months ago (just add the backup drive to the Samba shares). Swap them every day and keep the other offsite.
In addition to being way cheaper than tapes, it's WAY more convenient for both users and the owner who's swapping drives.
Point being, sometimes (as in this is the case for most businesses) hard drives are a much cheaper alternative to tapes.
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You're clearly uninformed - a 4U Nexan 'ATA-Beast' array with fiberchannel connect to a server holding 43 300G SATA drives RAID-5'd works out to about 11.72 TB - costs about $41,000 fully populated.
Or, if you want a bit cheaper - Promise VTrak 15100 (3U) with an Ultra-160 scsi interface and 15 400G SATA drives Raid-5'd is about 5.47 TB for about $11,000.
This is right in the same pricerange (in $/gig) as a giant spectra-logic 20000 tape changer with 200 AIT-3 tapes. about $85,000 for 31 TB of storage.
So, what it really comes down to is - 1) do you need 'offsite' backups? 2) how often do you have to do restores and find the right tapes, etc. 3) how quick do the restores have to be, and 4) how long do you need to keep the data.
For my company, we need backups for about 30 days, and haven't been able to muster off-site backups for a variety of logistical reasons even with tape. We have a guy who's full time job it is to do restores for our customers. We do do _some_ offsite backups but for the majority of our customers, we do not.
For us doing nightly/weekly backups to disk and saving for 30 days is about the same cost as doing it to tape, but we can do the needed restores much faster and without occasional physical manipulation. So, it looks like we are going to be changing to 'Disk to Disk' or D2D backups sometime soon.
Cost wise, the initial outlay is about the same, but for our business model, the speed of finding and making restores (including nightly incrementals) is really a win.
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The other part of this is that when tapes are going bad, you have some advance warning. You start seeing hard errors while writing to the media, and will have a chance to order new media before the tape is completely bad. With a hard drive, you don't know it's bad until it's too late, and is developing bad sectors.
Just because you had a QIC, Travan or iomega Ditto drive, and it was junk, doesn't mean all tape technology is unreliable.
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Well, I was thinking of plain old ATA as that remains cheapest for the moment. SATA is getting 4 disk controllers too these days, but they're still a bit on the expensive side ($50-$100) for this purpose.
AIT-3 is indeed twice the capacity, but the drives are in the 5K range as far as I can tell.
And none of the tape solutions we've discussed actually include a real lib (only a reader, unless you found a really cheap lib), while the IDE solutions I've suggested are all on-line (altho they would have disadvantages for offsite storage).
So, for 1 TB storage (2.6TB compressed):
$250 for computer, extra controller $50, 5 200GB disks $600 = $900.
AIT-2 drive $2000 + $50*20 tapes = $3K
AIT-3 drive $5000 + $50*10 tapes = $5.5K
2 TB storage:
$600 2 comps+controllers, $1000 10 disks = $1600
AIT-2 combo: $4K
AIT-3 combo: $6K
20 TB storage:
13 comps, 100 disks = $14K
AIT-2: $22K
AIT-3: $15K
Of course, at that size ide disks start having all sorts of other drawbacks, like power consumption, maintenance, etc. And AIT-3 will soon be cheaper for the installation.
The point isnt really that tape is always a bad solution. It's just it's getting to a point where ordinary disk storage is cheaper for even pretty large sites, and unless the tape companies do something really significant to their price/capacity they are going to get run over by consumer hardware driven capacity expansion as even their bread and butter customers storage needs are outpaced by consumer hardware. As the next strong phase of consumer storage growth is just starting up (driven by PVR type hardware and software) it will only get worse.
The technology is old? Huh? They fit 100GB on an 8mm tape over a decade ago? What? They fit less than 1GB? Then it's not old technology, is it?
The cost of the media cartridges is cheap in cost per gb. The cost/gb of the drive is high, which is what you're fixated on. However, depending on how much data you back up, the cost/gb, including drive, can actually be lower than a DVD drive.
It's similar to the argument about laser printers vs. inkjet printers. Consumables will eat you alive if you don't get the right equipment for the task being performed.
In addition, I'd like to see a multi-disc DVD-RW backup system that can:
A) back up >400GB in 24 hours without babysitting a single drive system for 24 hours, popping discs in and out by hand
B) randomly access a DVD-RW backup from the previous week in an automated way so that you can pull a particular version of a particular file off without manually rummaging through hundreds of DVD-RWs trying to find it.
What I'm describing is a library system. They are commonplace for tapes. If they exist for optical drives, they simply aren't widespread.