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Is Math A Sport?

Posted by timothy on from the that's-an-album dept.

theodp writes "The close of the International Mathematical Olympiad prompts Slate to question if math is a sport, wondering if mathletes might someday compete in the Olympics alongside track stars and basketball players."

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  1. Ridiculous. by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Absolutely ridiculous. If math is a sport then what isn't a sport. Fuck. The world has gone nuts.

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    1. Re:Ridiculous. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      If math is a sport then what isn't a sport.

      Bowling.

    2. Re:Ridiculous. by Corgha · · Score: 5, Funny

      If math is a sport then what isn't a sport. Fuck. [emphasis mine]

      You said it. That is something that probably won't be in the Olympics for a long while.

    3. Re:Ridiculous. by grammar+fascist · · Score: 5, Funny

      Imagine the RATINGS!

      XXX, I'd imagine.

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    4. Re:Ridiculous. by SydShamino · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, math is not an athletic sport. But it is still something to compete in and be proud of. I got a few nice trips and multiple days out of school in high school to travel for math competitions, and I wasn't particularly good at them.

      What upsets me more, though, is how academic and athletic achievement are recognized so differently.

      For example, a student athlete has their records published in the newspaper, the yearbook, and is recognized at student events. The student athletes that aren't as good don't get as much recognition, but their performances are public record as well.

      Contrast this with schools that are having to eliminate 'A' and 'B' honor rolls, because publication of such rolls shows that everyone not on those lists are 'C' or below students.

      So someone who's even marginally good at sports get to see their name in the paper, and get talked about at school, while those who are good at academics might get a note from the teacher with an extra smiley face sticker. No wonder academic instruction in the US is going downhill.

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  2. Well... by sk6307 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If curling is a sport, anything is possible.

  3. Poker on ESPN by ikea5 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well, if World Series Of Poker can be broacasted on ESPN, then I guess math is a sport.

  4. Sure! by natefanaro · · Score: 5, Funny

    Math should be a sport as much as 0 equals 1.

    1. Re:Sure! by betelgeuse-4 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Okay,

      x = 1 - 1/2 - 1/4 + 1/3 - 1/6 - 1/8 + 1/5 - 1/10 - ... (i.e. the sum of an infinite series)

      Add some brackets:

      x = (1 - 1/2) - 1/4 + (1/3 - 1/6) - 1/8 + (1/5 - 1/10) - ...

      Resolve the brackets:

      x = (1/2) - 1/4 + (1/6) - 1/8 + (1/10) ...

      x = (1/2)[1 - 1/2 + 1/3 - 1/4 + 1/5 - ...]

      x = x/2

      Multiply by 2:

      2x = x

      Divide by x:

      2 = 1

      Subtract 1:

      1 = 0

      Therefore maths is a sport.

      Hopefully I haven't made any mistakes :)

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    2. Re:Sure! by Temporal · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Isn't it amazing what you can prove using clever divisions of zero?

    3. Re:Sure! by andi75 · · Score: 4, Informative
      I have no mod points right now, so I'll throw in my +1 modifier...The correct explanation for the above result is (from AC:):

      This isn't using divisions by zero. This particular "proof" relies on the fact that rearranging the terms of a nonabsolutely convergent series does not necessarily give the same sum. In fact, such a series can be transformed into a series with any given sum simply by rearranging the terms.

  5. If Math is or is not a sport... by atomic-penguin · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would like to see a mathematical proof written to support the claim.

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  6. Of course not by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's an art.

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  7. Depends by Apreche · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just about every word in the english language has multiple definitions. You know, when you look in the dictionary and there are numbers 1,2,3, etc. Lets' take a look at one in the OED.

    I. 1. a. Pleasant pastime; entertainment or amusement; recreation, diversion.

    If you use that one, then yes, math can be a sport for some people.

    d. Participation in games or exercises, esp. those of an athletic character or pursued in the open air; such games or amusements collectively.

    That one depends on how you do the math.

    c. spec. Pastime afforded by the endeavour to take or kill wild animals, game, or fish. Freq. with adjs. referring to the result achieved.

    no, math is not a sport. Unless you can make a funny joke about how doing math kills wild animals. See replies to this post for witty comments.

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  8. Another NO by pr0c · · Score: 4, Funny

    In all real sports you can reasonable expect someone to get injured.

    If someone isn't going to get hurt.. why bother!

  9. I disagree... by John+Seminal · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Those criteria can make anything a sport. For example, by your criteria, masturbation can be a sport. I know people who have been training in masturbation for years. They do it every day. They progress and get better at it. No more of the right hand only, then use the left hand too, and upside down. They can even postpone ejaculation. And yes, some people are more naturally gifted at masturbating than others. But do we want to call it a sport?

    You are missing one of the main criteria for sports. You have to be able to stop someone else from scoring or getting what they want. In all games, there is a defense for the offense. What can you defensivly do to stop someone in math?

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    1. Re:I disagree... by Epistax · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd like to see you play defense in bowling. Or golf. I'll bring the camera, you bring the ambulance.

    2. Re:I disagree... by dancingmad · · Score: 4, Funny

      You have to be able to stop someone else from scoring.

      Isn't that the definition of masturbation?

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    3. Re:I disagree... by Deadstick · · Score: 4, Insightful
      What can you defensivly do to stop someone in math?

      Produce a counterexample.

      Prove his solution isn't unique.

      rj

  10. Lamest Slashdot article in a long time... by TitanBL · · Score: 4, Informative

    Math is interesting, math is fun, math is usefull, but math is not a sport.

    From WordNet (r) 2.0:
    sport
    n 1: an active diversion requiring physical exertion and
    competition [syn: athletics]

  11. Re:Yes by rokzy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maths is not a sport.

    If it were, then why not Physics? or Chemistry? or Biology? or History? or Latin?

    I suspect people who want maths to be a sport are those who are good at multiplication tables and think they deserve recognition for it, but are too crap to actually do any proper mathematical research.

  12. Math Isn't A Sport: A Proof By Contradiction by B2K3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Step 1: Assume Math is a sport.

    Step 2: If Math is a sport, all Math nerds are athletes.

    Step 3: All atheletes are jocks (remember high school?).

    Step 4: All jocks beat up math nerds (again, re: high school).

    Conclusion: All Math nerds beat up math nerds.

    But: I am a math nerd, and have never beaten anyone up (including myself or any another math nerd).

    This is a contradiction.

    Ergo, Math isn't a sport.

    QED

  13. Re:Yes by michael_cain · · Score: 4, Insightful
    None of these are sports, even if someone did attach some variation of "olympiad" to them. Let me put it this way -- could you hold an annual competition for the "best" mathematician (or biologist, or physicist) in the world each year? Not the best at taking a multiple choice biology exam, or at solving differential equations in their head, but the best at creating new knowledge in the selected field? Various organizations give awards for the "best" paper in different fields each year, but any one of those may be the culmunation of years of work and experimentation. But the thing that makes people great at such fields are those elusive "Aha!" moments in the middle of the night, or in the shower, or whenever, when a collection of pieces fall into place and form a pattern that no one has ever seen before.

    I can just imagine the announcers at the typical annual world math competition in, say, the topological manifolds event. "And there's the final buzzer, Bob, and as usual -- NOTHING HAPPENED! The greatest topologists in the world went at it for 60 minutes and NONE OF THEM HAD A SINGLE INSIGHT!"