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Hawking Gracefully, Formally Loses Black Hole Bet

Liora writes "Today at the 17th International Conference on General Relativity and Gravitation in Dublin, Cambridge University professor Stephen Hawking said in his talk titled The Information Paradox for Black Holes that he was wrong about the formation of an event horizon in a black hole, and that matter is not destroyed in a way defying subatomic theory, as he had previously believed. According to the talk's short, "the way the information gets out seems to be that a true event horizon never forms, just an apparent horizon." A New York Times story and a Wired story are available, both apparently based on Reuters information." (This is the formal announcement promised last week.)

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  1. Black hole bet? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: -1, Troll

    Hawking Gracefully, Formally Loses Black Hole Bet

    Does that have anything to do with the GNAA?

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  2. Fails to give wheelchair ride? by ModernGeek · · Score: -1, Troll

    I can't believe that the editors have stooped to this level. We have come to an age where people can share information without being harassed about their physical mishaps, however the people who deliver this very information still find a way to make fun of others disablities.

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  3. Hawking's Brown Hole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    You know you wanna bang it!

  4. Jews did WTC! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    LOL @ Hawking
    LOL @ 9/11
    LOL @ WTC
    LOL @ Jews
    Jews did WTC!

  5. We frat boys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    We frat boys just refer to him as "Spaz".

    By the way, who's the honey giving him the hand jobs? She earns every penny. Ick.

  6. Baloney! by macdaddy357 · · Score: -1, Troll

    Now who sent something into a black hole, and observed what happened? No one. One theory has been replaced by another theory, but neither has been tested, and neither can be tested. No matter how thin you slice it, it's still baloney!

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    1. Re:Baloney! by mikeg22 · · Score: 0, Troll

      How does Hawking's "theory" on black holes even rise above a hypothesis? The top poster was right, was there any controlled test that was done to see if information really does make it out of a black hole?

      What makes this any more than a hypothesis arrived at using math?

      My feeling is that theoretical physics is pretty useless when it is being used to describe something that can not be realistically verified. I mean, with black holes, we think we've detected them but there's not even any real solid proof that they exist at all.

  7. The point is... by djcreamy · · Score: -1, Troll

    In between beatings from his wife, he figured out he was wrong. I'll bet he lowers the seat now too (however it works for him).

  8. Hawkings' Theory Nothing New by spirit_fingers · · Score: -1, Troll

    The Bush Administration was actually the first to find a practical application for this model of a black hole, where information goes in and eventually comes out mangled and unrecognizable. It's obviously how they processed the CIA's intel on Iraq prior to the invasion.

  9. He just doesn't get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    A bit pathetic, selling lies for 20 years, then flip-flopping with something even more fantastic (and even uncheckable).

    The Bible is unshakable in its true creation story. Yes, I know - let the flames come.

    But before you do, you are all logic-thinking guys (so am I), so you will admire facts that at the very least question if evolution theory is valid as a mere theory. Check this out before you flame and be bold enough to use your brains, not your emotions:
    http://www.modomedia.com/quantum/index.html

    God has made the earth, the heavens and everything on it. Even us, humans. That's humiliating eh?

  10. Re:Yikes by melvster · · Score: -1, Troll

    Don't be ridiculous. We all know the Event Horizon is a big space ship pilotted by Sam Neill.

    Incidentally, I studied Mathematics at Caius college Cambridge under Stephen Hawking. As his students we saw him every day. He initially comes accross as a nice guy, but it eventually became clear that he disliked his students and has no time for them. In the end, we just avoided him.

    We were also forced to study Quantum Mechanics, which i would call a poor man's mathematics. Not because it is hard, but because really it makes no sense, which all our other courses did. When I pointed this out to my quantum mechanics teacher she started crying.

    And as for 'dark matter' - what's that all about. Come on guys - you have to do better than that. In my opinion, the problem lies with the underlying mathematics not being sufficiently rich to describe the universe. We dont even have the idea of a point particle in modern analytical mathematics (infinitely small = zero) - what chance to we have of dealing with the physics?