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Gentoo 2004.2 Released

brghntr writes "The gentoo guys (and girls) have released 2004.2 for the x86, AMD64, HPPA, and SPARC. You can read the information page here or go straight to the mirrors."

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  1. PPC by ciryon · · Score: 3, Informative

    PPC wasn't mentioned, but it seems it's on its way too.

    FP?

  2. Actually, Gentoo releases don't really matter.. by leathered · · Score: 5, Informative

    If your regularly do an emerge -uD world then your system is pretty much up to date.

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  3. actually by ZOMG+REI! · · Score: 5, Informative

    now you can get most of the software in binary form too (using emerge).

    Not that it matters, gentoo bashers will say anything to sound smart.

  4. It does matter... by dpilot · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are some configuration-type things that don't get updated by an 'emerge -uD world'. Sure, all of your packages are kept up to date, but for instance, Gentoo has moved from XFree86 to X.org. That change won't be made until you move from 1.4 to 2004.x. I once saw directions on how to make the switch, but lost track before I could do anything about it. So for the moment, I'm '-uD world' like you.

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    1. Re:It does matter... by Dreadlord · · Score: 5, Informative

      To upgrade from XFree86 to X.org:

      # emerge -C xfree
      # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge xorg-x11

      XFree86 blocks X.org, not sure if x.org is still masked or not.

      So there is no need to reinstall Gentoo.

      And XFree86 is the default in 2004.1, don't know about 2004.2.

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    2. Re:It does matter... by dmayle · · Score: 4, Informative

      Take at look at the instructions on the Gentoo forums, here:

      Switch to XORG

      They were originally crafted when Xfree was deprecated on AMD64, but they apply to all architectures, and they're designed to give you a minimum of downtime. (And provide a just in case backup as well.)

    3. Re:It does matter... by deepstephen · · Score: 4, Informative

      There are some configuration-type things that don't get updated by an 'emerge -uD world'. Sure, all of your packages are kept up to date, but for instance, Gentoo has moved from XFree86 to X.org. That change won't be made until you move from 1.4 to 2004.x. I once saw directions on how to make the switch, but lost track before I could do anything about it.

      I believe you are referring to the Gentoo Upgrading Guide. It tells you how to point your /etc/make.profile to the 2004.2 version, which indeed uses X.org instead of XFree86 by default.

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    4. Re:It does matter... by Distinguished+Hero · · Score: 4, Informative

      To upgrade from XFree86 to X.org:
      # emerge -C xfree
      # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge xorg-x11


      The more correct way of doing this would be:

      # emerge -C xfree
      # echo "x11-base/xorg-x11 ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
      # emerge -av xorg-x11

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  5. Does it really matter? You always get latest! by xiando · · Score: 5, Informative

    The strenght of Gentoo Linux is that it does not really matter what version you are using. emerge sync and emerge -u world, wait a while and there: you are running the latest version. The install has not changed much, so this actually means nothing to us Gentoo users. You get the latest version whatever Live CD you use to install, only the pre-buildt GRP packages are different on new releases.

    This is why you should try Gentoo today, it is excellent for both servers and desktops. Desktop users can choose to use the latest ("masked"), bleeding edge versions, while older stable packages should be preferred for production environments.

    The Gentoo Portage tree has more packages in it's database than any other Linux distribution. The freedom to choose.

    There is also a sweet front-end for Gentoo's portage called porthole. It allows you to search through the package database from a GUI GTK interface. You can browse the portage database online to find out how much software is available without installing Gentoo.

    ..try Gentoo today! It's excellent.

  6. Re:Platform curiosity by dmayle · · Score: 3, Informative

    why do linux distributions typically have PowerPC releases always up to a generation behind

    This one's easy. The majority of people running PPC machines at home are using OS X. It's up to date, it's supported, and it's a very good desktop machine.

    How many people at home who have an Alpha machine want to run Digital's unix on the desktop? The same goes for HP/PA Risc

    Or Solaris for that matter. The effort to get a Solaris machine up to snuff for desktop use, with all patches, is phenomenal... I know, because I have a work machine running Solaris, with gnome, firebird, evolution, vim, gcc, cvs, ssh, etc., and it took me three full days of installation and patches to get this set up. I have another sparc machine at home that I installed gentoo on, completely from scratch (stage 1) that took less time than that to get going. And most of that time I left it to do it's own thing...

    I think it's just a question of what the enthusiasts on a particular hardware base want to do with their machine. If you're unhappy with that, you are, of course, always welcome to join one of the teams to help them get it out sooner...

  7. Get your Torrents here! by KingDaveRa · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.tlm-project.org/torrents/gentoo/x86/200 4.2/ I had to dig on the forums to find this, but still.

    1. Re:Get your Torrents here! by KingDaveRa · · Score: 4, Informative

      Grrr!!! My post screwed up. Ignore the original and try this:
      Download Torrents

  8. Re:This is great and all but... by skiman1979 · · Score: 3, Informative

    why would you have to trash 2004.1? Just install 2004.1. Once finished, log on as root and type 'emerge sync' followed by 'emerge -u world'. Then your system will be totally up to date, as in you will then be running 2004.2. The version numbers for the LiveCD's are just to get a new system *fairly* up-to-date before downloading any updates. This keeps people from having to download tons of files to update a version that's too old.

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  9. Re:This is great and all but... by ScottGant · · Score: 4, Informative

    As I said before, the concept of a fluid distro are lost on some people.

    I installed Gentoo about a year ago and have never downloaded a new "version" as I keep up with my emerge on a regular basis.

    The only thing I can figure is that they are installing on fresh systems or want a live CD. Then it would make sense. But from the people I've talked to, they don't realize they already have the latest version if they "emerge sync && emerge -uDv world"

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