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Bash 3.0 Released

qazwsx789 writes "The first public release of bash-3.0 is now available via ftp and from the usual GNU mirror sites. For the official release notes by the author, Chet Ramey, check his usenet post."

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  1. Re:I'm still waiting for a feature by BrokenHalo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ...a GTK front end

    There is. Try zenity.

  2. Not much changed by opk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Doesn't seem to be much changed given the version number increase. [[ =~ ]] can match regexes and it can do zsh style {1..3} expansions. Improved multibyte support too. There were bigger changes in some of the 2.0x updates.

  3. Re:First "zsh rules" post! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    insightful? please at least give a few reasons why zsh is better. I use bash, but i'm open to other possibilities.

  4. Re:People still use a shell for Linux? by ylikone · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Because you can NEVER be quite sure of what files are being manipulated when you are using a GUI.

    Why use a middleman when you have access to the source?

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  5. Re:Neat by stratjakt · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Why a major version release with only minor point-release changes?

    From what I can tell, bash 3.0 doesn't do anything that 2.x didn't do. Except, no doubt, break every script in my system if I were to install it.

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  6. Re:Apple helping out by hot_Karls_bad_cavern · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "It's nice to see yet more contributions from Apple to the OSS community."

    Right on, brother. (This is not bashing apple before i get started!) They have done something that no one else in the *nix world has done: shit-hot gui. People can blather about this and that, but to deny that Apple has created one of the most user-friendly, beautiful, slick gui's for *nix is crazy. I'd like to continue seeing Apple release more help to OSS. Keep the real money makers to themselves (for now), but allow more dev's to release usefull changes back to the community that helped build it ya know?

    You are 100% correct that it's nice to see them making another move like this...even if it was a lil' one :)

  7. Re:On the list of changes: by grub · · Score: 4, Insightful


    I'm wondering why it's in the "LINUX" section of /. Bash is used across many different OSs.

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  8. Bash isn't Linux by gorim · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Bash is a portable tool that existed long before Linux did. It is not specific or particular to Linux. So why in the world does this get posted under the category of Linux ?

  9. Re:People still use a shell for Linux? by Idealius · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The same can happen using the shell.

    When you run a binary from the shell are you ever sure what files it's accessing?

    If you log it, sure -- but there are tools to do that in the GUI, too.

  10. Re:People still use a shell for Linux? by simetra · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Many Linux distributions are installed as servers and require no GUI. Many aren't even hooked up to a monitor, much less a mouse. Cron jobs and other stuff can do shell stuff as whatever user you specify. Users can telnet/rlogin/ssh in and do stuff. The shell is very important in this regard. In fact, your pretty gui probably uses the shell way more than you're aware.

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  11. Is BASH Linux specific only? by vivekg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This story comes under category Linux, wonders why? As we know bash runs under all *nix :)

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  12. Re:When are they going to upgrade MY shell? by ryanvm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Insightful? You morons, it's a joke.

  13. Re:Apple helping out by russint · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sure, they created a great gui. But when is it going to be ported to x86?

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  14. That was a wild mod ride! by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Man, all I wanted to do was say that I also liked zsh. I didn't think that many people were so wrapped up in their shells.

    My post started with +2 (cause I are 1337). Then I got an "Interesting", two "Overrated"s, a "Funny", and most recently a "Flamebait".

    Come on, mods: can I have an "Insightful" and an "Underrated", too?

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  15. Re:GUI possibilities by Atzanteol · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Sure, a GUI *can* have an advanced search tool that does what I mentioned.

    But what if I want to do:
    for i in `cat file.lst`; do wget $i -o - | convert ... ; done
    You gonna write a custom GUI app for everything? The nice thing about the command line is that it's "language oriented" rather than "picture oriented." Rather than pointing at what I want and clicking, I tell the computer what I want using a language.

    It's the same reason we don't code with a point & click interface (save for VB, but the point and click still only got you so far).
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  16. Most? Try 1... and fixed in 40min by apachetoolbox · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It broke a script in 1 package, and was fixed in about 40minutes. What the hell are you talking about?

  17. Re:GUI possibilities by Scarblac · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Please explain to me what precludes a GUI from offering an advanced search tool, in which you can open up a property info dialog for the results and do bulk permission/property changes for. (Hint: nothing stops this from happening.)

    What you will end up with is a huge dialog with all kinds of checkboxes and text fields for the same things the command has. Making it more irritating and slower for the purpose of turning it into a shiny GUI, no thanks.

    Even if you somehow make a magically really useful GUI widget that makes me enter all the necessary information in a completely natural and quick way and achieve perfection, I cannot believe you can do that automatically for every command ever. Which means there'll be a neat widget for some commands, and the command line for the rest.

    That way lies hell. We have a perfectly good command line, thank you. If you want to make GUI frontends, perfectly fine, but don't expect us to use them.

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  18. Re:bash = "embrace and extend" proprietary crap by pohl · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Proprietary \Pro*pri"e*ta*ry\, a. [L. proprietarius.]
    Belonging, or pertaining, to a proprietor; considered as
    property; owned; as, proprietary medicine.
    [1913 Webster]

    Seems like an odd word to use to describe free software. Try not to lip-sync to the jargon, dude.

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  19. Re:People still use a shell for Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    rm -rf /*

    But seriously, a command line user who can touch type at a decent speed can appear like Commander Data -- tacka tacka tacka as stuff scrolls by on the screen at an amazing rate. It's a skill, and if you don't have it, pointing and clicking might be just as fast or faster than having to look stuff up and then hunting and pecking. But if you use the computer alot, command line + touch typing is a set of skills worth investing some time developing.

  20. It doesn't break Gentoo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It exposes that Gentoo is broken. There is a difference.

  21. Better command completion from history by wowbagger · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What I would like to see Bash do is command completion a la 4DOS:

    If I have a command
    foo bar baz

    in my history, and I type
    foo<TAB>

    It complete that with the most recent command starting with "foo", and if I type
    foo<UP>
    it will cycle through the commands in history that start with "foo".