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Dr Who, Daleks Kiss And Make Up

Dynamoo writes "The BBC is reporting that the creators of the new series of Doctor Who due next year have reached an agreement with the estate of the late Terry Nation to include the Daleks in the new series. This means that I'll definitely be watching.. although whether from behind the sofa or not remains to be seen." We previously reported on the apparent exterminate-ion of the lovable pepperpots from this new version.

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  1. Terry Nation probably thought.... by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Terry Nation probably thought: "Hmm... I just get this garbage can here turn it upside down, cut ping-pong balls in half and stick them all over the outside, thrust a whisk or a plunger on the front, and I'll be scaring kids for generations!"

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    1. Re:Terry Nation probably thought.... by permaculture · · Score: 3, Informative

      Terry was trying to make an alien that didn't look like a man in a rubber suit. The Daleks were a sack of protaplasm with an arm, who had to live in robot bodies after they'd devastated their home planet.

      Unlike the alien from the film 'Alien', they actually _couldn't_ be played by a man in a rubber suit.

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    2. Re:Terry Nation probably thought.... by TomV · · Score: 3, Informative

      Terry Nation wrote the scripts and created the Dalek characters. The design was by BBC employee Raymond Cusick, and this lies at the root of the rights problems / confusion now resolved - the Nation Estate could licence the name Dalek and characteristic speech patterns such as "Resistance is Uselesss" and, of course, "Exterminate", but not the likeness. The BBC could licence, and use, the likeness, but not the name or behaviour.

      Tim Hancock, Terry Nation's former Agent and boss of "The Nation Estate" for licensing purposes, tried to bump up the price above the agreed UKP250,000 for using the Daleks in the new series at the last moment, and the BBC called his bluff. The Estate wasn't going to make much money if the new series didn't use the Daleks at all.

  2. Where Did the Daleks Go In the Meantime? by PipianJ · · Score: 4, Funny

    During the hiatus, the Daleks did a little-known movie called "Mr. Dalek Goes to Washington."

    Here is a still from the movie.

    "Expatiate!"

  3. YAY by zakezuke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a Dr. Who fan, I get frustrated with intellectual property over the damned Darleks(tm). While I appricated the Terry Nation's vision, I can not see how even the BBC could ruin the commercial value of any spin off project that future non Doctro Who Darleks might have for they are nothing more then a B movie stereotypical evil villain.

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  4. Re:I could never get into it by DAldredge · · Score: 4, Funny

    You are now banned from /.

    Please turn in your UID and report for reeducation.

  5. So really, why do we need, *need* them? by gordgekko · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I loved the good Doctor as much as any other geek but do we absolutely have to have Daleks in the next series? Some of the best episodes ever -- like Pyramids of Mars -- had no Daleks.

    Rather than take the series in an interesting and new direction, we're essentially getting the same series but with better F/X. Why not just have The Master and the Daleks in every episode?

    Don't get me wrong, I love the Daleks but it was the occasionally very superb writing that got me, not any specific villians.

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  6. Wait a second... by cosmod · · Score: 4, Funny

    Shouldn't that be Doctor Whom?

    1. Re:Wait a second... by value_added · · Score: 4, Funny

      Only if the good Doctor is the object of the transitive verb "exterminate."

  7. I hear the breakthrough was reached... by Timbotronic · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...when the BBC agreed not to put any stairs in the new episodes.

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  8. Thank God by ishmalius · · Score: 3, Funny

    I could never even consider watching Dr Who, or endure a single episode, without those beloved evil vacuum cleaners.

  9. This is a bad thing... by EvilCabbage · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Instead of taking the franchise new places, we'll be seeing re-hashed bad guys. Great.

    First it was half assed covers of songs I used to love (thanks a lot Jessica Simpson), then Doom 3, now this. I'm starting to think that trying to keep nostalgia alive isn't worth the risk of stunting the growth of such a promising franchise.

    1. Re:This is a bad thing... by martinX · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.

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  10. Why would you WANT to bring the Daleks back? by sunspot42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There hasn't been a good Dalek story since the mid-'60s. Pertwee's encounters with the Daleks were hardly the highlight of his career as the Doctor in the late '60s and early '70s. During his 7-season run as the Doctor Tom Baker had one mediocre, overlong Dalek serial (1975's "Genesis of the Daleks", redeemed only by Michael Wisher's fantastic performance as the Dalek's crazed creator, Davros), and one truly awful Dalek 4-parter, "Destiny of the Daleks" in 1979. Peter Davison's Doctor encountered the portly pepperpots half a decade later in 1984's lamentable "Resurrection of the Daleks". Colin Baker's Doctor runs into the Daleks the next year in the silly "Revelation of the Daleks". I've never seen Sylvester McCoy's Doctor's 1988 Dalek serial "Remembrance of the Daleks", but the general consensus seems to regard it as no better than "Genesis of the Daleks" at best.

    The Daleks were an idea that ran out of gas after the initial Dalek craze of the early '60s ran its course in the UK. Since then, a Dalek serial has been a guaranteed bad time. They're more a curse to Doctor Who than a blessing, and the real challenge for any new Who series would be trying to reinvent them into something truly chilling and remotely plausible to a contemporary audience. It's possible I suppose, but Who's past producers tried and failed for almost 20 years to produce a Dalek serial as engaging to modern audiences as original Dalek adventures like "Dalek Invasion Earth" were to audiences in the early '60s. I think they'd be better off ignoring the Daleks - and particularly the Davros character, who has been unnecessarily and ludicrously dredged into every Dalek adventure since 1975's "Genesis" - and concentrating on creating compelling new enemies for the Doctor to fight.

    And if they must revisit the past, they'd be far better off reimaging more plausible Who adversaries, like the Sontarans (reptilian clone warriors) and the Cybermen (televised sci-fi's original Borg).

  11. With the power vested in me, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I crown you King Dork.

  12. Re:No but can I call you a... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

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  13. Note the login. by Daleks · · Score: 4, Funny

    I haven't been kissing any doctors.

  14. Re:Douglass Adams wrote for Dr. Who by BasilBrush · · Score: 3, Informative

    He got progressively more insane as his hair grew greyer. Last sighted in "Fort Boyard", a "Crystal Maze" rip off.

  15. Re:Douglass Adams wrote for Dr. Who by Wildfire+Darkstar · · Score: 3, Informative

    Tom Baker is still around, but not doing anything much of note, really, other than playing the part of a slightly crazy semi-recluse rather well. He had a brief part in the abysmally awful (yet oddly compelling, in an Ed Wood sort of way) "Dungeons and Dragons" a few years back as an elf.

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  16. Re:Douglass Adams wrote for Dr. Who by aedan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Tom Baker does the voice overs in Little Britain

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/tv/littlebritain/a bo ut_the_show.shtml

    aedan

  17. Re:Douglass Adams wrote for Dr. Who by castor_acer · · Score: 3, Informative

    In addition to the other sightings mentioned, Tom Baker appeared on a regular basis in a cultish British TV series called 'Randall And Hopkirk Deceased', a modern re-make of a 60s TV series of the same name.

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  18. Thatcherism across time and space by evilandi · · Score: 5, Funny


    The BBC has broken the strike over terms and conditions for the Daleks. Apparently the Cybermen began crossing the picket lines in unmarked coaches, while the Daleks pelted them with rotten fruit, shouting "SCABS ... WE ... KNOW ... WHERE ... YOU ... LIVE".

    As part of the deal, thirty-seven gravel pits will close.

    An Equity union representative, speaking of behalf of the Daleks, said "This is a sad time for the Daleks, but at the end of the day, they have bills to pay, and the electricity for the genetic embryo chambers doesn't come cheap."

    The strike-busting Cybermen are understood to have had their contracts terminated early in favour of the new hovering Dalek Battletank design, previously only seen in paperback. The Cyberman leader said "THE DALEKS MAY HAVE WON THIS BATTLE BUT OUR EMPIRE WILL CONTINUE TO EXPAND."

    Meanwhile a dispute is believed to have broken out inside the Dalek camp, with the Supreme Dalek unhappy at the terms negotiated by Davros. In a news conference earlier, Davros said "This marks the next generation of the Kaled race. We have evolved beyond rails, beyond wheels, beyond low-budget bluescreen CGI hovering awkwardly up stairs. Although I'm sorry to see Ace go, she was rather fit, wasn't she, and she still looks hot in those childrens' programmes she presents."

    The Supreme Dalek was unavailable for comment, although he was earlier overheard saying "I ... HOPE ... DAVROS ... LIKES ... HOSPITAL ... FOOD."

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  19. Animated Dr. Who series by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Has anyone checked out the animated Dr. Who series on the web? The Master ends up being revived as a new robot assistant for the Doctor, kind of like a new K-9. I haven't followed all of Dr. Who, but I presume this meant the Master was killed off at some point. It's an interesting twist and I wonder if they will carry this kind of thing into the new series for some kind of continuity.

  20. I can't be the only Python fanatic here by noims · · Score: 3, Funny

    We previously reported on the apparent exterminate-ion of the lovable pepperpots from this new version.

    Am I the only one here who first thought of Monty Python pepperpots when I saw this? You know, the 'middle aged, middle class women' who first demonstrated that you can't tell the difference between Wizzo butter and a dead crab.

    The most disturbing thing for me was trying to figure out where these pepperpots might have appeared. I mean, on one hand they'd certainly make a powerful adversary for the poor doctor, but on the other hand can't you just see a couple of them following him around as sidekicks?

    - Look, Mrs Conclusion! The Cybermen and Daleks have united againstus!
    - Oooh! Well I never. And they used to be such nice people. I mean, society today. Young people. Ooooh. Tut tut tut.

    Noims

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