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Dr Who, Daleks Kiss And Make Up
Dynamoo writes "The BBC is reporting that the creators of the new series of Doctor Who due next year have reached an agreement with the estate of the late Terry Nation to include the Daleks in the new series. This means that I'll definitely be watching.. although whether from behind the sofa or not remains to be seen." We previously reported on the apparent exterminate-ion of the lovable pepperpots from this new version.
Terry Nation probably thought: "Hmm... I just get this garbage can here turn it upside down, cut ping-pong balls in half and stick them all over the outside, thrust a whisk or a plunger on the front, and I'll be scaring kids for generations!"
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I'm still going to miss Tom Baker... Best scarves on T.V... ;)
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During the hiatus, the Daleks did a little-known movie called "Mr. Dalek Goes to Washington."
Here is a still from the movie.
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As a Dr. Who fan, I get frustrated with intellectual property over the damned Darleks(tm). While I appricated the Terry Nation's vision, I can not see how even the BBC could ruin the commercial value of any spin off project that future non Doctro Who Darleks might have for they are nothing more then a B movie stereotypical evil villain.
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Rather than take the series in an interesting and new direction, we're essentially getting the same series but with better F/X. Why not just have The Master and the Daleks in every episode?
Don't get me wrong, I love the Daleks but it was the occasionally very superb writing that got me, not any specific villians.
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Shouldn't that be Doctor Whom?
...when the BBC agreed not to put any stairs in the new episodes.
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I could never even consider watching Dr Who, or endure a single episode, without those beloved evil vacuum cleaners.
Some of the story lines were pretty interesting, but overall I could never get into the show. Hopefully that will change with the new one.
I love Doctor Who, but I can understand where you are comming from. The format is that of a vintage 50s cliff hanger. It's something that I didn't understand watching it in the states as PBS typicaly showed an entire story at a time. If you don't like old classic science fiction then Doctor Who is difficult to get into.
The only way I could get no fans even to watch it is by showing them the credits with names like "Douglas Adams" or "Terry Nation".
There is no sanctuary. There is no sanctuary. SHUT UP! There is no shut up. There is no shut up.
Instead of taking the franchise new places, we'll be seeing re-hashed bad guys. Great.
First it was half assed covers of songs I used to love (thanks a lot Jessica Simpson), then Doom 3, now this. I'm starting to think that trying to keep nostalgia alive isn't worth the risk of stunting the growth of such a promising franchise.
Best wardrobe, generally! Entire scenes of stories like 'The Aztecs' appear to have been casted, set and shot in the seedier kind of drag queen establishment, complete with makeup. The fact that any of the actors could keep a straight face just shows how talented they were!
DOn't get me wrong though, I love Doctor Who. It's still on tv every weeknight here (yes, we ARE that backward Down Here)...
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I'm not a Dr. Who fan at all, but I read the headline as "Dr Who, Daleks, Kiss and Makeup". That imagined comma made me think for a minute that KISS were getting involved. I've been wondering why they never made another move ...
Rather than take the series in an interesting and new direction, we're essentially getting the same series but with better F/X.
But wouldn't that ruin it? I'm not a True Fan, but I thought "camp" was an integral part of the show.
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There hasn't been a good Dalek story since the mid-'60s. Pertwee's encounters with the Daleks were hardly the highlight of his career as the Doctor in the late '60s and early '70s. During his 7-season run as the Doctor Tom Baker had one mediocre, overlong Dalek serial (1975's "Genesis of the Daleks", redeemed only by Michael Wisher's fantastic performance as the Dalek's crazed creator, Davros), and one truly awful Dalek 4-parter, "Destiny of the Daleks" in 1979. Peter Davison's Doctor encountered the portly pepperpots half a decade later in 1984's lamentable "Resurrection of the Daleks". Colin Baker's Doctor runs into the Daleks the next year in the silly "Revelation of the Daleks". I've never seen Sylvester McCoy's Doctor's 1988 Dalek serial "Remembrance of the Daleks", but the general consensus seems to regard it as no better than "Genesis of the Daleks" at best.
The Daleks were an idea that ran out of gas after the initial Dalek craze of the early '60s ran its course in the UK. Since then, a Dalek serial has been a guaranteed bad time. They're more a curse to Doctor Who than a blessing, and the real challenge for any new Who series would be trying to reinvent them into something truly chilling and remotely plausible to a contemporary audience. It's possible I suppose, but Who's past producers tried and failed for almost 20 years to produce a Dalek serial as engaging to modern audiences as original Dalek adventures like "Dalek Invasion Earth" were to audiences in the early '60s. I think they'd be better off ignoring the Daleks - and particularly the Davros character, who has been unnecessarily and ludicrously dredged into every Dalek adventure since 1975's "Genesis" - and concentrating on creating compelling new enemies for the Doctor to fight.
And if they must revisit the past, they'd be far better off reimaging more plausible Who adversaries, like the Sontarans (reptilian clone warriors) and the Cybermen (televised sci-fi's original Borg).
... am I the only one who thinks this was a publicity stunt? That's the first thing that came into my head when I read this.
The story should read "The BBC are..."
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The Daleks (...) scared me sh*tless when I was a kid...
No doubt, I didn't use salt for a week after for fear the shaker might exterminate me!
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I haven't been kissing any doctors.
Before the civil war, whenever US foreign policy was discussed in newspapers, they always read "The United States of America are..." rather than "is..." The clear shift in power to the 'federal' (damned interstate highway funds) government afterward caused the change in grammar.
that the author had any say in the first place. Here in the good 'ole us of a, there never would have been an issue, since the author would've signed away his rights ages ago. Not defending our system, just saying I'm amazed this happened at all.
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I was reading "Don't Panic" (sort of a biography on Douglas Adams during the period when he wrote H2G2) and apparently he used to be one of the writers, and later a script editor for them. And it was during the Tom Baker years too... ahh, the good years...
...anyone know what happened to good old Tom?
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If there's anything more pathetic than somebody that bothers to post to correct another posters spelling, it's someone who tries but is incorrect.
Oh, in case anyone was wondering...the Daleks were modelled after the Nazis, kinda like Godzilla was the personification of nuclear danger for the post-nagasaki japanese.
Anyway, as memories of WW2 were still "fresh" with the poms the daleks really struck a chord in 1960'2 viewers I expect. Anyway, for the terminally stupid, here goes:
Daleks are the master race
Inferior races must be subjugated or EX-TER-MINAT-ED....
They have the out-thrust right arm (think Nazi salute)
It's a funny ol' world huh ?
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So I wouldn't say I'm incorrect and this is Slashdot and meant to be a jovial harrassment that might pass for humour around geeks. Now one cares about spleling here and you might have noticed by mis-spleling of "spelling" in my post?
Whats realy pathetic is that in criticise his spelling I used terrible incoherent grammar: " No but can I call you a you a bad spleler? ".
Now it might not have been great but here we accept and mod up inane posts. Would you really have preferred a "In Soviet Russia imagine a cluster of skeptics."
Kudos to the fellow/fellowette who pointed out "sceptical" is valid in British spelling.
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Considering the amount of money/publicity the BBC is dumping into this project? It's potentially one of the biggest things BBC TV has done in years, and I would argue it matters as much as any entertainment news does to a site like Slashdot.
Although, to be fair, it certainly is also "stuff by/for nerds"....
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White coloured 'good Dalek' converts from Evil to save the day at the last minute, sacrificing itself at the same time. [Shudder]
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some device..that was connected to a bunch of other similiar devices.. and one of those devices, could search the others for 'content'... based on a 'searching criteria'.
I should patent that! naaa it would never catch on.
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or Maybe they get lots, and lots of submissions, so may in fact, it basically is a random drawing of whose gets picked.
naw, they must hate you.
It's not like you get anything. Of course I have had 1/2 dozen of my submission selected.
Isn't that cool? no, actualy it's not. should you care? no.
Maybe I should put that on my resume?
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The new ones have been designed by Segway*
*note - not actually true
The BBC has broken the strike over terms and conditions for the Daleks. Apparently the Cybermen began crossing the picket lines in unmarked coaches, while the Daleks pelted them with rotten fruit, shouting "SCABS
As part of the deal, thirty-seven gravel pits will close.
An Equity union representative, speaking of behalf of the Daleks, said "This is a sad time for the Daleks, but at the end of the day, they have bills to pay, and the electricity for the genetic embryo chambers doesn't come cheap."
The strike-busting Cybermen are understood to have had their contracts terminated early in favour of the new hovering Dalek Battletank design, previously only seen in paperback. The Cyberman leader said "THE DALEKS MAY HAVE WON THIS BATTLE BUT OUR EMPIRE WILL CONTINUE TO EXPAND."
Meanwhile a dispute is believed to have broken out inside the Dalek camp, with the Supreme Dalek unhappy at the terms negotiated by Davros. In a news conference earlier, Davros said "This marks the next generation of the Kaled race. We have evolved beyond rails, beyond wheels, beyond low-budget bluescreen CGI hovering awkwardly up stairs. Although I'm sorry to see Ace go, she was rather fit, wasn't she, and she still looks hot in those childrens' programmes she presents."
The Supreme Dalek was unavailable for comment, although he was earlier overheard saying "I
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yeah, that's how slashdot works, unless your a fanboy your subs get rejected, mysteriously to appear scant hours later with someone else's name attached to them.
slashdot is becoming ever more irellevant as time passes, it's gone from being my "first coffee and cigarette while reading slashdot" morning wake up to "ok, 30 minutes to kill, been to ebay, trawled usenet, lets see what stories slashdot is repeating today."
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The Gay Daleks have already appeared in the Channel 4 series TV Offal, and it's creator, Victor Lewis-Smith wanted to bring them back, but failed to get the rights to use the Daleks (how he got them the first time is a mystery).
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Has anyone checked out the animated Dr. Who series on the web? The Master ends up being revived as a new robot assistant for the Doctor, kind of like a new K-9. I haven't followed all of Dr. Who, but I presume this meant the Master was killed off at some point. It's an interesting twist and I wonder if they will carry this kind of thing into the new series for some kind of continuity.
He didn't get them first time, which pissed off Terry Nation's estate no end, hence why the new negotiations took so long. Sure, they're control freaks, but they've learned that if they don't take control, they end up with shoddy parodies, and it's a short walk from there to panto.
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Ok, I was only 4 years old......;-)
As all Who devotees should know the last series with the Daleks, "Remembrance of the Daleks" finally showed them moving up stairs to get out of a cellar. They used a hover/rocket-type mechanism from my hazy memory. This htus totally wrecked my favourite cartoon from "Punch" magazine. This had the daleks at the bottom of a set of stairs. The head Dalek said: "Well.. that certainly bu**ers our plans for universal conquest!"
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"I'm sure kids in the US had the same sort of thing with Buck Rogers or Battlestar Galactica..."
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Battlestar Ponderosa was just BAD...
Dr. Who reminds me of some of the Inspector Morse series, in that about halfway through it starts not making any sense. I suppose it has something to do with subtle language differences or perhaps just the peculiar way Brits think...
"Is this Winkhorst a nova criminal?" "No just a technical sergeant wanted for interrogation."
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Those that live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.
I think it's common geek issue that they can see all the threads of thought so quickly that, to non-geeks, often their comments seem as non-sequitrs, until the comment is explained.
That being said, is it just me or did anyone else suddenly get the image of the article poster running around with a baseball bat, smashing aluminum trash cans and anything else that looked remotely like a Dalek?
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Well, the BBC do show Dr. Who regularly - every Saturday and Sunday morning on UK Gold (which as part of the UK TV network is jointly owned by the BBC and Flextech Television).
I've been happily re-enjoying the Tom Baker years for the past few months, although we're now into the Peter Davison tenure so things are starting to go downhill. I'll stop watching again as soon as Bonnie 'Annoying Twat' Langford makes her appearance (much as I did the first time around).
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Am I the only one here who first thought of Monty Python pepperpots when I saw this? You know, the 'middle aged, middle class women' who first demonstrated that you can't tell the difference between Wizzo butter and a dead crab.
The most disturbing thing for me was trying to figure out where these pepperpots might have appeared. I mean, on one hand they'd certainly make a powerful adversary for the poor doctor, but on the other hand can't you just see a couple of them following him around as sidekicks?
- Look, Mrs Conclusion! The Cybermen and Daleks have united againstus!
- Oooh! Well I never. And they used to be such nice people. I mean, society today. Young people. Ooooh. Tut tut tut.
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We used to call it Cattlecar Bonanza. And have you noticed that SciFi Channel will be doing a new version next year? Frightful thought....
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MOD this up. It's true. The orginal Klingons looked an acted like WW2 Jap's as well. The original Star Wars had WW2 written on it as well.
Dr. "derringdo" Who made me the geek I am today. The driving force behind Tom Baker was Doug Adams, no really, read the credits.(the scarf was the work of someone who didn't know the yarn ball could be cut at the end!)
I liked Tom Baker as the wise cracking doctor with bravado in the face of sticky situations, "Adrik, I'll allow you to scream bloody chaos in a situation like this, but if I do, where would we be?"
'Scared Doctor?'
"Petrified..."
"Ramana, you put a hole in my tardis controls..."
He saw things logically and whimsically at the same time. I fear the plot factory writers will ruin a childhood memory by trying to use formulas for success. It was his unorthadox approaches that make me a much better programmer(I turn maticies row-column because I self taught), and taught me not to apply standard approaches. He had pinache! Show me a SciFi character that has wit and intellect.
Yeah, I'll miss him too.
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The KKK a bunch of sheetheads? You decide!
Tom Baker also did a hilarious appearance as the Sea Captain in Blackadder.
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Man, I laughed til I cried, that was so over the top. Well worth tracking down. I think the episode is called Potato.
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I for one, welcome our new Dalek overlords.
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Well, the situation is a bit different. I trust the BBC to interfere more than I would trust any American TV network, if only because their jobs are different. Fox reviving "The Simpsons" twenty years down the line would suck because, like any commercial network, they'd almost certainly have as much of an eye on making money off of the thing as they would in producing a good series. Since BBC TV isn't run on a for-profit basis, they have a better chance on actually focusing on making a great series. Which, of course, doesn't mean they'll know how to do that....
But, then again, I trust the writers and producers. They are long-time fans of the show, and all of them have done work for the franchise at some point, either as part of the range of novels, the audio dramas, or the TV special "Curse of Fatal Death." So, with some luck, they'll be able to turn out something that will work.
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I just happened to drag out my laserdisc of that last night, forgot completely that Tom Baker played the bad guy sorcerer. Add in great Ray Harryhousen effects and the fabulous Caroline Monroe, and you can't go wrong.
My favorite line: "Abdul, for someone who likes the hashish so much you should be more at peace with yourself."
The revolution will NOT be televised.
PS I'm English, which adds to the strangeness as I don't know which BBC you guys have been watching
It used to air on some independant stations back when I was a kid (early to mid 80s), I think it was WWOR out of New York. I'm in Pennsylvania, but that was a staple in our cable programming back in the days when there were only 36 cable stations.
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Even more exciting is the fact that SciFi is bringing back Farscape!!! That just ROCKS. That might even make up for Stargate: The Explotative Spin-off.
Why is it that the proponents of "one nation under God" are so eager to get rid of "liberty and justice for all"?
That makes no sense. If they could do that, then they'd have to be shown doing it -- and where is the BBC going to find that budget for something like that?
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Check out the second paragraph - it's got the title of the episode in it....
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