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The Saga of Katie.com

digitalcaffeine writes "The gist of the story is that Katie Tarbox became a victim of an online sexual predator when she was 13. She wrote a book about it in 2000 and Penguin Putnam made the title of the book 'Katie.Com', which unfortunately was a domain name owned by Katie Jones since 1996. Now Tarbox's lawyer is demanding that Jones turn over the domain name. Penguin refuses to apologize, saying that it would be a violation of their free speech to re-title the book and that Jones never trademarked katie.com, so they can do what they want with the words."

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  1. So they name the book by klmth · · Score: 5, Interesting

    without ever googling for the domain name they used? Unbelievably clueless.

    1. Re:So they name the book by mopslik · · Score: 5, Interesting

      without ever googling for the domain name they used?

      Or typing it into the address bar, for that matter. Why the need to invoke Google?

  2. Re:And then there's... by abb3w · · Score: 5, Interesting
    So, can the current owner of Katie.com sue Putnam for the damages done to her (EG, increased bandwidth costs, having to redesign her site around an irrelevant topic, etc.) as a result of their choice of title?

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  3. Libel? by michaelmalak · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Couldn't Katie Jones sue Katie Tarbox for libeling her as a sexual assault victim?

  4. Lawsuit powered by Google by Digital_Quartz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If I were Katie Jones, I'd setup Google AdWords on my front page, and perhaps a sponsored link to the katie.com book on Amazon, and use the proceeds to power a legal fund.

  5. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  6. Re:A new shock site? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd gladly host her site for free, just for the controversy.

    Because I have no doubt she'll win, and in the mean time you can't buy better ghetto publicity than a publisher of paperbacks trying to strong arm a young mother into giving up her domain name so they can give it to a victim of an online sexual predator. That's like a puppy fighting with a kitten -- two strong appeals to your sense of humanity, duking out over a friggin' email address?

    Anyhow, you really want to cheese off Penguin? Don't Goatse the site Katie.com...instead, use it to post erudite and insightful critiques of the book, call into question the events inside and the validity of its conclusions. After all, they're marketing the book with YOUR website on it...might as well use your website to convince people not to buy their book. Shit, I'll volunteer for that, too...got to put this rhetoric degree to use for something besides mod 5 posts.

    Incidentally, after a quick USPTO.GOV search, it appears Penguin didn't register katie.com, either. Since the owner of katie.com has prior art going back to 1996, I think she could still register her trademark...and sue the SHIT out of Penguin for misuse of her domain name. But IANAL...I'm a computer guy with a rhetoric degree and outrage that anybody could be so greedy to cash in on their own tragedy as to threaten a young mother.

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  7. Oh, Penguin's got a history... by bobthecow · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Check out this link. This guy had to stop referring to an old software company he was involved with in order to not get sued. You might recognize the name of the old company.

  8. Re:Katie.com by JohnKFisher · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I emailed the author, and got this reply: I appreciate your thoughts and understand them completely. It is not posted on my web site, but this issue is between Katie Jones and Penguin Putnam. They own the name Katie.com as a published book and decided to call it that. I can do nothing in my power to change it. I would suggest if you would like your voice to be heard and a chance that something is done about it, direct your sympathy to Penguin Putnam. For the record I have never harassed Katie Jones for her site. Best, Katie Tarbox Whether that is true or not, I have no idea, but in the interest of fairness, her reply should be noted, I think. I have to admit, my (limited) knowledge of publishing seems to indicate the actual author has very little juice here.

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  9. Re:Thank You by nsedley · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If people would seriously like to do this, we could set up a Paypal account. Are there a significant number of people who would want to do that?

  10. I haven't read all 800+ messages here, but.. by wantobe · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Has anyone else written an email to the supposed lawyer? I did, and this is the answer I received (including the text of my message below it):

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    Rob, we never tried to take katie.com, Katie Jones is doing all of this for publicity. We were always using katiesplace.org. I am also not Katie's lawyer or anyone's lawyer and Jone's knows that.

    I donate 90% of my time to running a charity that protects people online. But replying only feeds Jone's hidden agenda here.

    For that reason, I request that you not share this without my advance permission.

    .and if you look at parryaftab.blogspot.com you'll see the whole post about our intentions on this all-volunteer organization website, katiesplace.org. I have always taught children not to believe whatever they read online, too bad adults don't follow that rule. :-(

    -----Original Message----- From: Rob Miles [mailto:rmiles@theskepticalreview.com] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:42 PM To: parry@aftab.com Subject: Katie Jones and katie.com

    Please stop your campaign to force Katie Jones to give up HER domain, katie.com. Even since the book by the came out, she has dealt with unwanted and unwarranted attention. Maybe this all started as a mistake or an oversight, but to plan to release additional material under that same name (as reported by Ms. Jones on 7/30/04) is certainly mean-spirited at this point.

    As of 7/27/04 your site lists a new venture with Katie Tarbox named katiesplace.org. If this means that you have in fact given up on trying to force Ms. Jones to give up her rightful domain, then I apologize for the above and offer you my deepest appreciation.

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    For the record, I consider any email sent to me to be my own property, regardless of any request or disclaimer saying otherwise.

  11. Re:Wow by shiftless · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "5 of 622 people found the following review helpful:

    ***** (5 stars)

    Katie.com by Katherine Tarbox was a great book to read. I would recommend it to ages 12 and up. I liked Katie.com because ..."
    ...

    "203 of 203 people found the following review helpful:

    * (1 star)

    The writer of the book and the publishers should be ashamed of themselves. ..

    DO NOT BUY THIS BOOK, and certainly think again about buying from this publisher."


    "Wow" is right. At present there is over 200 negative reviews of the book, "modded up" by at least 80-90 people each, and the few 5 star reviews have been "modded down" to nothing, giving this book a final rating of two stars.

    Do y'all have any idea how many people are buying their books on Amazon these days, and how many people will see thiss? This *will* have an impact on book sales, I guarantee it. I bet Penguin will stop harassing Katie Jones and they will probably issue an official apology within a couple weeks.