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Mandrakesoft Releases 10.1 Beta1
Theanswriz42 writes "MandrakeSoft has announced the release of Mandrake Linux 10.1 Beta1 which is available from one of the many mirrors or from bittorrent. xorg is now the standard and there are many other changes from the previous version of Mandrake Linux. Screenshots are available here."
Yay Linux, boo Microsoft.
There, I got half of the comments out of the way.
...even though I prefer SUSE over Mandrake by far.
I always get excited about new releases. Linux's constantly increasing numbers make me feel like things are always getting better, which is usually the case.
By contrast, every new MS release makes me scared about what they're sneaking in this time - activation, DRM, Trusted Computing...
As a user of MS products all the way from MS-DOS to Windows XP, I must say that Mandrake (10.0) greatly impressed me when I loaded it, and it continues to do so. Kudos to MandrakeSoft for making such a great product, and I'm glad that they're making it better all the time. :-)
I look forward to trying out 10.1 beta....
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Ipod mini and 4g ipods, the cool ones with no buttons, dont mount under the new mdk kernel. :-) ive got to boot into knoppix to update songs.
Other than that, mandrake rocks. viva la mandrake.
(its bug 10619 if anyone cares..)
Official GOD FAQ.
...it's XFree86's way of going into mourning following the idiotic license change that caused every distro to drop them like a hot rock.
Something nice to do over weekend, trying out the new beta on test machine.
The nicest thing about all that? well when it becomes Release 10.1 you just update sources and wait for urpmi to end rpming...
Done this since MDK 8.2, no new CD installs just update. Now MS beat that
To hell with Karma spoilers...
Things in a rear mirror might be behind you
I am not even done downloading 10.0 Official over my Dad's 56K modem! Tell them to slow down!
1.urpmi.removemedia -a
2.go to http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php and set up sources for the release you want to upgrade to
3.urpmi --auto-select --force
done, but if you want a new kernel
4.urpmi kernel (pick the one you want)
5.reboot
mdk doesnt use Yum, but urpmi.
Just associate 'gurpmi' with the mime type for RPM in your favorite web browser.
still reading?
Yeah, it's pretty easy and well documented all over the place.
You use the software sources manager, uncheck your current sources first, then add new sources for 10.x. First thing you do from the commandline is 'urpmi urpmi' then 'urpmi --auto-select'. You may have to make some choices along the way but eventually you'll end up with 10.x. Don't forget to 'urpmi kernel' also, as it may not update you to the newest one (which is a failsafe built into urpmi).
I don't know what you consider good, but rpmdrake and kpackage are both included and both dead simple to use.
Use easy urpmi to select cooker sources. You may also might to "rpm --import" the GPG signatures found in the cooker tree (I don't remember which directory). After that just "urpmi --auto-select".
Seems to work quite good, but for some reason I can't intall galeon or epiphany.
Analogies don't equal equalities, they are merely somewhat analogous.
What do you want to do? If you want simplicity stick with SuSE. If you want to mess with Linux itself, and not extra distro crap, go with Slackware. If you want to compile everything go with Gentoo. If you want to compile everything but just don't find Gentoo to be all that appealing and you want a more Slackware like experience do Linux From Scratch. If you don't want a lot of distro crap, but want package management, go with Debian.
Be a little more specific. Best Linux desktop for what?
Errr, you are miss-informed.
/home/opkool/Downloads/bzip2-1.0.2-18mdk.src.rpm
In my Mandrakelinux 10.0-Oficial:
I just opened the file browser (konqueror), clicked on a src.rpm (source rpm) icon, I got a GUI dialog that asked for root password and then I got a dialog that asked me:
------QUOTE----------
You have selected a source package:
You probably didn't want to install it on your computer (installing it
would allow you to make modifications to its sourcecode then compile it).
What would you like to do?
[Do nothing] [Yes, really install it] [Save file]
------END QUOTE----------
As you see, it was a source-rpm. And it gave me a proper answer. That is what I call good configuration.
Mandrake has the expected behaviour by default, as my installation is 99.999% original & official.
Peace!
go URPMI. This is the one reason that I still stick with mandrake over suse. URPMI is great. Add a little plf to the mix, and your all set. I get 95% of what I need via urpmi. # urpmi mplayer # urpmi freevo DONE!!!! updates # urpmi.update -a # urpmi --auto-select Other then the x.org thing, doesn't look any different then my 10 distro. Never been a big fan of apt-get for rpm based disto's. I've had a couple of bad sources that have really screwed up my system. To configure urpmi, I go to http://easyurpmi.zarb.org, select my distro, choose my source/updates and I don't touch my cd's for software again. From what I've heard, SUSE may be going the way of urpmi soon. They've got beta's out there and source directories.
Don't do this!
/usr/lib/foo-bar-0.1.2.so.3", remove the package with offending file. Which package contains offending file? Type "rpm -qf /usr/lib/foo-bar-0.1.2.so.3" and remove the package with "urpme offendingpackage". After completing the upgrade, install new version of package with "urpmi offendingpackage" if needed/
A safer way [Note 1]:
1. Exit graphical environment and go to console (Ctrl-Alt-F1)
2. login as root and switch to runlevel 3 (telinit 3)
3. urpmi.removemedia -a
4. go to http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php and set up sources for the release you want to upgrade to
5. urpmi --test urpmi (test if urpmi's upgrade works) [Note 2]
6. urpmi urpmi (if you get no errors in previous step)
7. urpmi --auto --auto-select --test (we want to make sure upgrade will work. If you have non-official rpms, this could cause trouble. Write down offending rpms/files, remove them and try again) [Note 3]
8. urpmi --auto --auto-select
9. urpmi kernel
10. reboot
[Note 1] This could not work if:
* you have used "--force" before to install packages
* you install rpms from untrusted origin
* you install rpms not specific for Mandrake
* you install with "./configure && make && make install" instead of using "./configure && make && checkinstall"
[Note 2]: the --test option is great because:
i. it downloads all needed rpm-packages
ii. it tests the installation and provide quite clear error messages
iii. it does *not* delete downloaded rpm-packages
iv. it does *not* change your current programs.
v. when happy and you do not use "--test", as all the packages are already downloaded, your upgrade takes less time.
[Note 3]: If you get a message like "Packge foobar cannot be installed because it conflicts with file
Peace!
(upgrading Mandrake with urpmi since 8.1)
This might be "interesting" in an interesting sort of way, but is certainly uninformed. Urpmi existed way before yum and is at this stage more mature.
As far as clicking on an rpm and installing and resolving dependencies automatically, that also has been the default behavior for a long time.
Pragmatism as an ideology is not particularly pragmatic in the long term. Keep it in mind when you dismiss Free Software
Why are you thinking of switching? That is the key question.
Mandrake 10 is very, very good. My only qualm with it has been PMCIA support for Wifi cards. Other than, it is very fast and very stable.
It's multimedia "readiness" is superb.
Google for easy urpmi, then add plf and contrib repositories and you have thousands of applications at your fingertips.
urpmi libdvdcss
After that, getting DVDs to play out of the box is as easy as putting a DVD in the drive.
Getting mplayer installed with all the fancy codecs is as easy as:
urpmi gui-mplayer.
Urpmi knows to get mplayer and all the funky win32 proprietary codecs. The key is to set up plf and contrib.
Have fun
Pragmatism as an ideology is not particularly pragmatic in the long term. Keep it in mind when you dismiss Free Software
If you've seen Mandrake before, there's nothing new for you. I looked through all of them, and the first half or so of the screenshots were of the installer, followed by the first-run stuff, and the Mandrake Control Center categories. The only new thing I noticed was a user survey, and possibly some changes to the first-run wizards. There was one shot of Konqueror, but other than that no shots of running applications.
If you've never seen Mandrake before, you might want to go ahead and look, but for anybody else it's pretty much a waste of time. Plus it's hell on LinuxBeta's servers.
That said, a quick question for anybody who has installed this beta: Does Mandrake still use devfs, or have they finally moved to udev? That was one of my disappointments when I tried 10 Community.
For the fun of it, it would be better if there was a bottle of red wine included.
$ urpmq -y garlic
b wine1-twain
garlic
$ urpmq -i garlic
Name : garlic
Version : 1.4
Release : 1mdk
Group : Sciences/Chemistry
Size : 2197558 Architecture: i586
Summary : Free molecular viewer and editor
And of course,
urpmq -y wine
libwine1
libwine1-capi
libwine1-devel
li
linuxconf
wine
wine-utils
xwine
Cheers, from Paris.