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Ultra Fast Disk Drives With No Moving Parts

saccade.com writes "Let's face it, the slowest part of PC's today is the disk drive. Bit Micro has come up with a nifty solution - flash memory based disk drives available in typical disk form-factors. These e-disks are electrically compatible with ATA, SCSI, etc. but run orders of magnitude faster - access times down to 40 usec and transfer rates over 100 MB/sec. What's the catch? Cost. Currently going for just under $1K/G, a 30G model I recently held in my hand was worth much more than my car. However, as flash memory prices drop, so do the price of these drives. Within the decade the spinning hard disk may go the way of the floppy and CRT."

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  1. Not that new. by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 5, Informative

    This isn't exactly new. They've come down substantially in price and gone up in volume, but these have been around for years. It is my understanding that the most significant use was (is?) laptop drives for extremely rugged, shock-resistant portables.

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    1. Re:Not that new. by yellena · · Score: 5, Funny

      Chicken meet egg.

    2. Re:Not that new. by networkBoy · · Score: 5, Interesting
      As far as I can recall, there ARE people working on alternatives to memory as we know it

      Without giving away too much (and getting fired in the process) there is a whole new tech on the horizon. It still uses all the nasty chemicles, but in traditional flash memory, the chip is broken into three major components:

      charge punps (to provide the 9.5-12 volts required to program the chip from the punny 1.8 - 3.3 volt supply

      the control circuitry (basically a mini CPU)

      the flash array
      all these elements are "flat", that is they are one structure deep. This new tech coming up, if someone can perfect it, uses multiple layers to make the flash array several layers deep. Thus you could (in theory) shrink your die size while increasing the memory density.
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  2. Is this an ad? Or what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because I'm pretty sure most of us were aware of high cost flash media disks.

  3. Wouldn't it be cheaper... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...to store data by etching bits with a stylus into Faberge Eggs.

  4. Floppies are dead? by smooth+wombat · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Within the decade the spinning hard disk may go the way of the floppy and CRT."

    Are we done yet with the whole 'floppies are dead' stories? I regularly use floppies because it's easier to plop in a floppy, copy one file and pop out the floppy than it is to put in a USB drive, wait for your pc to recognize it (don't know about Macs), copy the file then have to correctly disconnect the USB drive

    What about those machines which don't have USB drives or who aren't on a network? What then? Floppies will be around much longer than anyone thinks and for good reason.

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    1. Re:Floppies are dead? by SlashdotMeNow · · Score: 5, Funny

      What about those machines which don't have USB drives or who aren't on a network?

      What country do you live in? Machines without USB? Not on a network??? You're not making any sense here man! I have something hectic to tell you: The year is not 1994. It's actually 2004. Yes, you've been in a coma for 10 years.

  5. Nothing happening then. by julesh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Within the decade the spinning hard disk may go the way of the floppy and CRT.

    You mean it'll still be the default option on most new PCs and in use by ~90% of PC users?

  6. WHy not integrate with the motherboard then? by Viol8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The reason hard disks etc are seperate devices is because they have mechanical parts that require motors etc to work. If this is going to be replaced by memory chips then why not just integrate the whole lot on the motherboard as just another plug in memory module? Why make it slower by passing it through SCSI or ATA not to mention the extra cost of including the interface electronics?

  7. Problem with number of writes. by spiff42 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I wonder if they have solved the problems with a limited number of writes to flash memory. Most flash-chips only have a 1000 or 10000 cycle write endurance. Sometimes this gets higher because virtual pages are used and the data shuffeled arround on the "disk" each time it is written. But that will still cause problems if you fill up the disk, say 90%, and then keep writing and rewriting the remaining 10%.

    I know that 10000 writes seems like a lot, and perhaps it is. Anyone knows how this figure looks for normal harddrives?

    Still it seems to me that the limited number of writes sets the biggest limitation.

    /spiff

  8. Always beware of "X is dead!" in the media by dmccarty · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Within the decade the spinning hard disk may go the way of the floppy and CRT.

    Within the decade the spinning hard disk may be capable of holding terabytes, or even petabytes, on a single platter. And it will be orders of magnitude cheaper than solid state storage as we know it. I doubt that hard drives will go the way of the dodo anytime soon.

    Just as a comparison, look at how many backup solutions still use tape media (and use it very effectively and cheaply, I might add).

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  9. The problem with hard drives by NeoFunk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sure, hard drives are slow, but that's not my main problem with them. They *are* a bottleneck, but since most applications get the hard disk access "out of the way" at the very beginning and load everything they need into RAM, I could deal with slow hard drive technology for the rest of the forseeable future, if only...

    ... they were reliable. Hard drives are the only PC components that have ever died on me. Actually, that's not quite true - I had a CD-rom die once, and a few fans here and there; what do all these have in common? Mechanical parts. And when it comes down to it, what do most users value most in their computers? The files on their hard drives. Spinning death traps is what they are. Spinning, clicking, grinding death traps.

    I don't know much about flash memory technology or the reliability associated with it. I don't give a hoot how fast it is. If it's solid state (no moving parts) and can guarantee me it won't one day decide to utterly destroy itself, I'm sold.

  10. Re:Life time? by MadRocketScientist · · Score: 5, Informative

    I dug a bit and found this in the manufacturer's FAQs:

    QUESTION: What is the lifespan of the E-Disk® flash drive if wear-leveling algorithm is not utilized? How much improvement will BiTMICRO's wear-leveling algorithms make to this number?

    ANSWER:
    The wear-out life of an E-Disk® flash drive is directly proportional to the number of flash memory physical blocks in the device. The greater the number of flash memory blocks in the flash drive (and therefore total capacity), the longer the wear-out life of the device. As an example, arithmetic computation will show that a 34GB E-Disk flash drive fitted with flash chips rated at an endurance limit of 1 million erase/write cycles will have an endurance life of 1,024,000,000 seconds (or 32.47 years) when written continuously at 34MB/sec (or 2,937.6GB Erase/Write per day). This is the worst possible scenario where all I/O is 100% write and caching is disabled. E-Disk erase/write endurance can be more than 15 times the computed value if the multiplier effects of full associative caching and the results of BiTMICRO's accelerated erase/write endurance verification and testing are included.

  11. floppy dead? by nbert · · Score: 5, Funny

    take a look at this raid 0 floppy setup: http://ohlssonvox.8k.com/fdd_raid.htm

    yes, I know that it would cost more and we would still have moving parts. It's also slower.
    But just imagine a room with ~21300 FDD (30 gigs) stacked to the ceiling blinking and spinning like mad.

  12. Re:Quality? by AdamHaun · · Score: 5, Informative

    Flash uses a so-called "floating gate" to hold charge. The floating gate sits between the control gate and the source/drain/body of the transistor. When electrons are stored on the floating gate, the transistor is prevented from turning on, producing a zero. When there's no charge, the transistor turns on normally, producing a one.

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  13. MRAM disks, anyone? by ^Z · · Score: 5, Informative

    Probably, a better HD-replacement solution would be based on MRAM, which is being steadily developed and is going to become available quite soon (the article linked mentions late 2004).

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