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Should Game Consoles Make Breakfast, Too?

Ryan writes "Is the idea of 'convergence' (the notion that a single digital appliance will handle multiple tasks) in gaming consoles even worth it? CNET News has an article discussing the issues of convergence related to gaming - it seems like a lot of consumers aren't worried about the bells and whistles, yet they keep throwing them at us." The article mentions the "underwhelming" response to Sony's PSX console/DVR combo, whose "arrival in North America--originally slated to happen in time for the 2004 holiday shopping season--is now set for an unspecified date in 2005."

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  1. Awesome idea... by grub · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Should Game Consoles Make Breakfast, Too?"

    Not a bad idea:

    If you play console while it's making breakfast it won't scream "What are you doing?! Don't touch me!"

    You can eat your breakfast without the console whining to you.

    If breakfast is cold you can beat the console without feeling guilty.

    You can demand beer for breakfast and the console won't complain.

    If you throw out the console it won't hire a lawyer to take half your stuff.

    Man, if RealDoll.com could "converge" this new console concept with their products they'd be trillionaires.

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    1. Re:Awesome idea... by Dorsai65 · · Score: 5, Funny

      How the hell did you get my ex? Poor bastard...

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  2. Separate But Equal by grunt107 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Although these 'combos' are good for people that have none of the offered tech but want them all, I believe separates are the way to go. Then I do not end up with 3 DVD players (1 standalone, 1 w/PS2, 1 w/XBox).
    A better idea is to have all these 'parts' interconnect in a more seamless way - have additional devices plug in to a master controller, which would allow infinite connections (instead of the current setups where the 3rd game system is connected on the 'tape' monitor.

  3. Yes, convergence is good by Nos. · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But don't try to do it all with hardware.

    Imagine a device that I can plug into my TV. It will play DVDs, it will take my CD's, convert them to MP3s (autmatcially putting in track names and authors), it will allow internet surfing (yes, a TV isn't as good as a monitor), PVR, game playing, paying bills online, etc. it will handle VOIP (with built in message manage), IM, home automation, home security, water the lawn when it needs it, etc.

    Sounds nice, I'd buy one. Oh wait I have one, its called a computer. None of the things I mentioned above are new. Rolling all of these features into one device is going to take forever. However, build a nice fanless computer. Make it a DVD player and have some basic MP3 functionality. Release. Do a software update to allow web surfing. Do a software update to do home automation (thermostat, time lights, etc). Do a software update to ... you get the picture. The thing is, this can all be done today, nothing is new. But trying to build it all at once is the wrong way to go at it. Start slow, release often. Sure most of us on slashdot aren't going to be the target market, but our families, friends, and other non-techno people are.

  4. "underwhelming response" by User+956 · · Score: 5, Informative

    maybe there was an "underwhelming response" because they were charging an arm and a leg for the fricking thing.

    Tivo = $99.

    PS2 = $150.

    Tivo + PS2 = $900?

    what kind of math is that?

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  5. Hell No! by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
    > Should Game Consoles Make Breakfast, Too?

    Hell, no! That's what cell phones are for!

  6. Sigh.. No, and this isn't news by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The "set-top box" is a white elephant. Not just because of technical hurdles, but the very fact that people don't want it.

    I have a seperate DVD player and XBox. The fact that the XBox can play DVDs didn't stop me from getting the DVD player. Why? Because I want to watch a movie upstairs while my kids play Soul Calibur II. Simple, huh? Why should I buy two $500 devices when a $40 DVD player and $120 Xbox do what I need?

    And hey, when my XBox breaks, I can still watch DVDs, play CDs, pay my bills online, keep my milk cold and fresh, and make delicious toaster pastries.

    All-in-one devices are single points of failure.

    Not to mention the "jack of all trades, master of none" angle. Sure the XBox can play DVDs. But not in 640p (ok after modding and hacking it can). Even a $40 DVD player has progressive scan these days. It's a specific example, but of a general trend.

    Just like instead of a reliable phone with good battery life, manufacturers think we "really want" is a shitty phone, grainy camera, buggy PDA, and laughingly unplayable games.

    Hell, a clie is small enough that I can duct-tape it to the phone myself, if that's what I need.

    I can see niche markets for some of this convergance stuff. The rich guy who did a 100,000 dollar remodel of his living room, and an a/v rack with room for a DVD player, TiVo and PS2 just aren't in the budget. Fine, he can pay the premium.

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  7. Re:Kinda obvious by Total_Wimp · · Score: 5, Interesting

    People always say convergence doesn't matter, and it doesn't, but it really does.

    Lemme explain.

    I would have bought the PS/2 for the same price if it didn't have the DVD player built in. Most people would have. But when I was getting a console, the fact that it had a DVD player built in mattered to my view of the value I'd get from the purchase. It made me feel good about it.

    Now that we've used the PS/2 for a while, we find that we use that DVD player all the time. It's not the best DVD player on the planet, but it sure beats the VHS sitting next to it that we ignore. Because of that use, once again I feel I got good value for my money on the purchase. I think it's much more 'worth it' than I would if it didn't have a DVD player built in. It makes me feel good about buying more stuff from Sony, because I know they try to give me more than just the basic function listed on the box.

    Contrast this with the ill-fated DVR version of the PS/2. With the regular PS/2, the DVD was a 'gift'. It was added value that I did't feel I was paying anything extra for. The new super box, on the other hand, was a lot more expensive. I would be paying for everything. And, because I already have a PS/2, I'd end up with actually less value then what is listed on the box.

    So, to summerize:

    Convergence is great if you get more than you pay for and it doesn't cost the manufaturer much more to give it to you (sony was using DVD as the media anyway. The DVD movie player cost them almost nothing to bundle in). It's great because the consumer feels he's getting good value for the money.

    Convergence is bad if the consumer feels he's paying extra for a bunch of redundant stuff he'll never use.

    I sure hope manufaturers are paying attention to this post :-)

    TW