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Mozilla Releases Mozilla Sunbird 0.2
Gentu writes "Along with the new Mozilla-Japan initiative and the release of Mozilla 1.8a3 today, the Mozilla team released the first 'official' beta release of Mozilla Sunbird, version 0.2, a stand-alone calendaring application (similar to Apple's iCal). There are two flavors of this project, one that works as a ~700 KB plugin to Firefox/Thunderbird/Mozilla (titled Mozilla Calendar) and the ~8 MB stand-alone calendaring application, Mozilla Sunbird (rate the apps over at GnomeFiles.org). These builds are the first to feature a new default theme, a new logo and the customizable toolbar functionality. Note that Sunbird is still an experimental technology preview that contain bugs, but it is pretty stable."
I'm confused. If the plugin is ~700K, and the Firefox installer for Windows is ~4.6M, then how in the hell can the standalone Sunbird be ~8M, more over 3 megabytes more than the browser and plugin combined?
Yeah, sync is a big thing these days.
/Off to google
I actually use yahoo's sync to backup by outlook contacts, calender, and to-do list. It's cheesy as hell, but it certainly does the job.
How can I publish my events on a remote server?
You can publish events from the calendar to an FTP server or a webDAV enabled webserver. You can also use the calendar to subscribe to these events as well.
If I can figure out what the heck a webDAV enabled webserver is, maybe I can drop yahoo...
Davak
I'm totally confused now.
Apparently so, considering they are only two programs.
(OT note: anyone know if it's possible to disable the ctrl+w shortcut in Mozilla? I use the Dvorak keyboard, on which w is right next to v, so I fairly regularily close the window instead of pasting... it's quite annoying)
Even better than promoting both applications is the fact that I can save the sunbird calendar to my iPod. Not as super slick as if I was using iCal, but better than Outlook.
Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. -John Lennon
Undetected document.all support has been added to Mozilla (Good for some dumb IE-only sites)
Okay. Since when have Mozilla folks started to work around IE brokenness, and why?
I know many folks whine that there should be more this kind of features, but it sounds like a slippery slope, not to mention encourages writing MORE bad DHTML instead of fixing the existing.
Slightly OT: We have a standard mail format, standard calendar format... is there a standard phonebook/contact list format?
On topic, good job to the Sunbird team... While I have to live in a multi-OS world, it's nice to have both windows and linux versions of these apps, makes syncing a realistic thing.
"Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel." - A.B.
I haven't used Mozilla mail in a while, but Thunderbird should be quite fast with only 1000 mails. There's a box at work with about 40,000 messages in it which I dump mail into now and again. As long as you let it generate an index for the mbox file, you're fine.
;-)
One message per file just seems like a huge step backwards. FidoNet had that, with the MSG format. It was unscalable, unworkable, and had big performance problems, which is why pretty much everyone migrated to another format, which kept all the messages in a single file. (There were other files which did indexing and so forth.)
For the maildir/mh stuff to be fast, you need a header cache of some kind. Once you have the cache, you might as well just use the mbox approach, which everything understands, is a lot easier on hard disks and filesystems, and is much easier to back up.
Obviously this is all just my opinion. But I'm right.
sPh
I totally agree.
I had to set up a system for a new secretary and gave her Sunbird instead of Outlook. She was eager to give it a shot, but after a few days she told me it just didn't have the features and flexability of Outlook, which it doesn't. Maybe soon.
I would use it if it could sync with my Tungsten.
Sharing the GRE has been discussed for quite a while, and according to the Mozilla roadmap, it's still something they want to do. How soon it gets done is another matter, but it's at least on the list of stuff to do.
You kind of answered your own question there, didn't you? Sunbird is a 700K plugin if you already have Gecko installed, 8 Megs if you don't. They all share instances of Gecko, I believe.
Anyone who loves or hates any language, platform, or manufacturer, doesn't know what they're talking about.
Getting it to connnect to an exchange callendar thingo would be nice
Shouldn't be too hard to do, why not make Sunbird do a 'at' command for every alarm, calling itself with some command-line option? 'at' exists on Windows as well, I think, or at least something with similar functionality. Don't know about Mac OS X :)
Just installed Sunbird plug-in to my mozilla 1.7.2 on XP. In Mozilla, I go to window in the menu bar and I can click on Navigator, Email, etc. There're also 'short cut keys' listed in that menu.
Navigator --------- CTRL-1
Mail & Newsgroups - CTRL-2
Composer ---------- CTRL-4
Addres Book  -- CTRL-5
Calander ---------- CTRL-8
divider
IRC Chat ---------- CTRL-6
Question is: what're slots 3 and 7 set aside for? What's "out there" still?
Senior NCO in the fight against entropy. I've seen things, man. Things no one should have to see.....
Fireraccoon pops up a nice install window warning me not to install unsigned extensions, and an 'official' (albeit beta) extension from the Mozilla project themselves isn't signed?
And people wonder why Open Source isn't taken seriously. I've touched on this topic before, and while this isn't a security update, it would really show that the Mozilla Team were showing a little professionalism...
Mark "Karma to Burn" Hood
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Call me crazy if you want, but to me the next logical step would be to release some sort of virtual machine.
Sunbird, Firefox and Thunderbird run using a lot of code in common. Because of that they were originaly available in the Mozilla Application Suite.
Wouldn't it be easier, and more efective to release a common runtime environment, and then be able to release much smaller apps to run in it?
Cheers,
Adolfo