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Mozilla Releases Mozilla Sunbird 0.2
Gentu writes "Along with the new Mozilla-Japan initiative and the release of Mozilla 1.8a3 today, the Mozilla team released the first 'official' beta release of Mozilla Sunbird, version 0.2, a stand-alone calendaring application (similar to Apple's iCal). There are two flavors of this project, one that works as a ~700 KB plugin to Firefox/Thunderbird/Mozilla (titled Mozilla Calendar) and the ~8 MB stand-alone calendaring application, Mozilla Sunbird (rate the apps over at GnomeFiles.org). These builds are the first to feature a new default theme, a new logo and the customizable toolbar functionality. Note that Sunbird is still an experimental technology preview that contain bugs, but it is pretty stable."
Do they intend to totally confuse everyone?
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Thunder ... Fire ... Sun .. all hot, loud, destructive things. I guess there's no cuddly hippie people at Mozilla.
When is the first name change scheduled?
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I'm confused. If the plugin is ~700K, and the Firefox installer for Windows is ~4.6M, then how in the hell can the standalone Sunbird be ~8M, more over 3 megabytes more than the browser and plugin combined?
That whole mozilla suite project just seems to be generating a lot of really good software... There's firegoat, thunderbird, mozilla, alotofotherthingsidontknowaboutfox, and mozilla.
:0 Thanks for all the great work!
I mean wow, those are some productive developers... Kudos.
(though I keep on worrying that they'll slip out a kernel one of these days just to complete the operating environment... kernelzilla? mozillOS? Thunderbarf?)
Just kidding
Blearf. Blearf, I say.
I'm *STILL* hacked off about the fact that while all the other builds and platforms got cool cars, the mac users got stuck with a sawed-off station wagon.
;)
Alas, at least we have since gotten a native build of firefox.
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The logos are adorable.
From their web site:
This is great news, and should help to promote both applications.
Sunbird is less descriptive than Excel? Curious.
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- Birdfire
- Sunfried
- Friedbird
- Furredbread
- Bunfriar
- Sunblurred
- Slurredbird
- Blurbird
- Boredslurred
- Slartibird
- Currybird
This will go a loooong way to convincing people to switch from silly and confusing Microsoft products! Er...I've been using the Mozilla Calendar for the last few days (strangely conincidental one might think) and I'm definately liking it. I'm using it for tracking a lot of business activities, so it's especially nice how it issues email notices and allows you to repeat things even "once a year".
.mbx/mailbox files and move to something like what Sylpheed uses (1 file per email).
While there's nothing spectacular about the calendar tool it does do the job and so far it has been running without issue the last 5 days without requiring a restart.
I'm further delighted about this because it means I don't have to walk down the path of Evolution just to get a calendar. One last thing though - when (if ever) will Mozilla mail change away from using
PLD.
Isn't Mozilla just a bit to close to Godzilla for the Japanese market?
Prepare for a name change. I'm thinking "Pikascape" or "Mozachu"
In Soviet Russia, all our base are belong to you!
Sunbird could very well be one of the more important open source projects out there! At least, important for the corporate adoption of Linux. While Linux remains awesome in the server/development arena (after all, it's all I use to write code at work), it still lacks in the "Management" desktop area. Before I get lots of flames about this one, I know about openoffice.org but still, if you look at the dominiance and reliance on Outlook in the corporate environment, you will see why Linux needs a good, integrate calendar application. ;) ).
One CEO even mentioned this to me. He loves Linux from what he has been shown/played with but finds it hard to lose the integrated calendar feature of Outlook. For him, that's what is holding back the adoption of Linux. Believe it or not, he hates the quality of Outlook. The only reason he is tied to it is because it is the only viable solution with the proper features.
The more we look at what our targeted users are using, the better off we will be. This is what Microsoft often does well. They look at who makes the decision to deploy their product, like any good company does, and tailor their product around that user.
I simply cannot believe that we, as an open source community, have not yet duplicated the todo/email/calendar application that managers so love (with good reason too, their jobs often involve quite a few meetings/action items/communications).
Hopefully this will fill the void of an integrated calendar/scheduling application (though there could be something already out there... I just don't know about it
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If, like me, you need to use a proxy server in Sunbird, but found that it doesn't allow you to set one up, you have two choices:
Use the thunderbird/firefox calendar plugin instead
OR
Copy the network.proxy parts of your thunderbird/firefox prefs.js file into your sunbird prefs.js file.
Ford Thunderbird
Pontiac Firebird
Pontiac Sunbird
The Sunbird was an even crappier car than the Firebird. Think Cavalier+nasty plastic decorations.
(though there could be something already out there... I just don't know about it ;) ).
Ximian Evolution is the Managerial, Outlook-esque product for Linux that you seem to be missing.
I don't particulary enjoy all-in-one products like Mozilla. If I wanted to browse the web, I launched Firefox. If I wanted to read my mail I used Thunderbird. If I wanted to view my calendar I... was forced to open one of the other programs even if I didn't want to check my mail or browse the web and use the calendar add in.
Aethera and Outlook also forced me to do this. But now, perhaps I can have the calendar app open without having it reminding me every 15 minutes that I wasn't connected to the internet.
Once again, I thank the mozilla group.
Cheers,
Adolfo
PS. Now, If I could just convince the Opera team to unbundle their chat and mail apps from their browser...
Huh?
Apple's using KHTML, pal. Nothing to do with Moz.
Linux+Moz, maybe.
-Erwos
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Well what can you expect when the entire project is apparently named after a giant, fire breathing lizard?
Intarweb folk history has it that the word Mozilla is a contraction of Mosaic-Killer (with a nod to Godzilla, of course).
Vino, gyno, and techno -Bruce Sterling
Obviously old people who never saw Power Rangers as a kid modded this down. This might not be funny, but it's hardly off-topic. I mean, c'mon! They might as well rename the Mozilla Suite "Megazord," seeing as how it's what you get when you combine Firefox, Thunderbird, and Sunbird!
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
Slightly OT: We have a standard mail format, standard calendar format... is there a standard phonebook/contact list format?
On topic, good job to the Sunbird team... While I have to live in a multi-OS world, it's nice to have both windows and linux versions of these apps, makes syncing a realistic thing.
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Nah... I believe that's gonna be the eventual name for the Mozilla Suite.
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See requirements here
and the tracker bug here. At the tracker bug, you can add your email to the CC, and put in a comment to let the developer's know that it is important to you!
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A minimize to tray extension is in the works that would help this problem out to a degree.
Minimize To Tray Extension
The extension works pretty well for Firefox and Thunderbird, and if/when Sunbird allows extensions, it will be extended to work with that too. This of course means Sunbird/Calendar would always be running, able to send out alarms, but not taking up lots of room on the taskbar. At the moment, the minimize to tray extension is only for Windows, and it's not a perfect fix, but it may help out some people who just want any solution for this issue.
But only for Sunbird though... There's no "plugin" version of Thunderbird for if you already have Firefox installed.
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Just installed Sunbird plug-in to my mozilla 1.7.2 on XP. In Mozilla, I go to window in the menu bar and I can click on Navigator, Email, etc. There're also 'short cut keys' listed in that menu.
Navigator --------- CTRL-1
Mail & Newsgroups - CTRL-2
Composer ---------- CTRL-4
Addres Book  -- CTRL-5
Calander ---------- CTRL-8
divider
IRC Chat ---------- CTRL-6
Question is: what're slots 3 and 7 set aside for? What's "out there" still?
Senior NCO in the fight against entropy. I've seen things, man. Things no one should have to see.....
Fireraccoon pops up a nice install window warning me not to install unsigned extensions, and an 'official' (albeit beta) extension from the Mozilla project themselves isn't signed?
And people wonder why Open Source isn't taken seriously. I've touched on this topic before, and while this isn't a security update, it would really show that the Mozilla Team were showing a little professionalism...
Mark "Karma to Burn" Hood
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How can we get this goodness in every piece of software on the planet?