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10Gbit to the Home by 2010
womby writes "Nihon Keizai Shinbun report (Japanese) that NTT, Fujitsu and the Japanese Government are forming a working group to develop internet technologies that will hopefully allow homes to receve 10 gigabit internet connections by 2010.
'The Japanese government (the Ministry of Public Management, Home Affairs, Post and Telecommunication) are going to start a development plan next year that will increase the speed of the internet in Japan to 100 times faster than the current 100MB fibre internet, with partner companies it is aiming for completion by 2010.' A complete Translation is here, if my blog gets beaten into the ground try the Coral Cache Link."
'The Japanese government (the Ministry of Public Management, Home Affairs, Post and Telecommunication) are going to start a development plan next year that will increase the speed of the internet in Japan to 100 times faster than the current 100MB fibre internet, with partner companies it is aiming for completion by 2010.' A complete Translation is here, if my blog gets beaten into the ground try the Coral Cache Link."
First, we need hard drives and system buses that can get the data moving at this speed.
When you look at the state of the world, how can you not become a radical, liberal anarchist?
Pr0n at the speed of .... damn that was quick!
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I'd be pleased just having 100Mbit to the home. By 2010 I might even have all my home machines upgraded to GigE...
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10gbps = 1.25GB/s = 2 DivX movies/s = 1 DVD-5/4s = 416 MP3s/s = Brown Trousers time for the MPAA = Roll over in grave time for RIAA
But seriously, imagine all the fun you could have downloading pr0n^H^H^H^H educational videos.
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People said that about 14.4, 28.8, 56k, and DSL.
By the time we have 10GBits in the home, porn, warez, and Linux distributions will hit a size large enough to make that not the worlds greatest connection.
It's always been that way.
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This has the potential to make the internet a worse place than it is today. Currently, a 56k or cable modem when it is a zombie in a 14 year olds bot army cannot do much damage alone. The "1337" 14 year old must accumulate a huge number before he can make any real difference.
With 10 gigabit, the kiddie just has to get a few bots to cause a server to die, or if they are persitant enough to accumulate a huge amount of bots, they can do huge amounts of damage to the internet
Barring the advent of far more massive media, who, besides universities and governments would really need a 10 gigabit internet connection anyways?
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Then we can have the bandwidth to play Doom 3 multiplayer with more than a few people!
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that will hopefully allow homes to receve 10 gigabit internet
Okay, already, I'll learn Japanese. See you guys in six years... ;)
Hard Disks - you don't need HDD for video conferencing and such.
Buses - if you have 10 devices (3 TVs, 2 PCs, 2 video phones, 4 security cameras, 2 PlayStation 5) in your home, it shouldn't be too hard to use up that bandwidth. Any particular device alone wouldn't need to be able to use up the bandwidth, but all together, they could.
Just imagine how much bandwidth could be consumed by four kids playing virtual-reality games on the Internet...
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"file-sharing" systems pumping around MP3 files are already using orders of magnitude more bandwidth than they should. The RIAA only generates a few gigabytes of new content per week, expressed as MP3 files. If it just went out on a netnews binary group, the bandwidth consumption would be trivial. No file would traverse any link more than once. No frantic inter-node polling.
The consumer electronics industry could just buy out the music industry and throw all the content into the public domain. The entire music industry isn't that big; it's about the size of Compaq when HP acquired it. Content could be viewed as a loss leader for the hardware.
Apple seems to be headed in that direction.
Though not a major factor in everyones lives, I'd personally like to see the latency dealt with as well, things may be getting faster but it seems latency is largely ignored, there's not much hope for global telecommuiting if they don't address the latency as well *mumbles about that 10ms lag on adsl lines*
Why... A beowulf cluster of this size
Seriously though, if the next Playstation is going to rely on distributed computing this would be the thing that makes it a reality.
Seriously, imagine p2p networks that spring up to and combine computing power to solve any math problem.
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Imagine the cool "beowulf live" distributions that spring up - boot and enjoy holographic video (rendered on demand!)
It's not the connection speed, it's the potential to combine computer power that makes me drool.
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I'm still on a 56K modem, you insensitive clod!
But seriously, to all the people saying "bleh! What are we ever going to need that kind of bandwidth for?", just remember: no one should need more than 640KB of memory.
Face it, people are constantly doing things which require more and more bandwidth. People will start wanting to stream HDTV-quality movies over the net from their favourite P2P ne...uh... I mean MPAA sanctioned distribution channel. They'll want online games with thousands and thousands of people with realistic physics, and audio chatting. They'll want...
Ah who am I kidding? This is for p0rn, plain and simple.
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Put it out there, and people will find a use for it. Let's not fall into the trap of thinking that because we can't imagine how someone would use it, that means that nobody will find a use for it.
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I love it. The NEW standard to measure bandwith.
DRM does not work in the current setup.
With that massive pipe, there is no need for local hard drive or other resource (tape/DVD) to hold information. It can all be on-demand.
With that setup you only need to see what you want see when you need it. AND PAID for it on per-use bases.
We are getting to what VNC was originally designed for... Central Processing centers with only remote display devices.
So nice plasam TV, with a keyboard, camera, mic and speakers (phone & music) attached. Add to it point at (touch) screen design and you have very the all propose enterantment and mind control device, that for $19.95 per month can spy on you.
Each human eye has about 4K x 3K retinal receptors triggering the optic nerve at about 40Hz. Assigning 2x2 32bit pixels to each, at 60Hz, is 2*8K*6K*60*4 bytes per person, per second. That's under 24GBps, with hifi audio channels and metadata, it's still under 25GBps per person, before our senses can't tell the difference from more data. 2:1 compression means 12.5GBps, or 100Gbps - only 10x more than these plans. The end of multimedia data networking might be just over the horizon, at least for one person at a time.
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No, I disagree.
With Standard Definition Movies (in XViD and DiVX formats), the filesizes are remaining at around 700-1.4GB (1-2CDs). Not only that, thanks to more faster CPUs, more compression can be done which means a lower bitrate is needed for the same quality.
Not only that, home connection speeds have went from 512/768 to 2,3 and soon 4 and 5mbit/second.
Some things are the same, but music and movies are just staying the same size (unless HDTV rips start coming, but that's a long way off as we currently have no way to transfer a HDTV rip to a TV without use of large HDDs etc) which is bad, bad news for the music and movie companies.
For games, they have gone from 1-2CD in 2000, to 3-5 CD (or one DVD).
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Maybe by 2010 I'll be able to get something other than a 56k connection... Cable and DSL isn't even remotely available here. You know it's bad when local paper celebrates the coming of dsl to a town that's 50 miles away.
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You must not have heard of cases in other countries of similar acts from large businesses and governments.
You are not exempt from coming restrictions.. dont kid yourself.
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Eh? That's not true at all.
Linux Distros are the same size today as they were 6 years ago. 1-2 main CDs for the main installation along w/ supplemental apps CDs which don't really count.
Most desktop apps like Office are still only 1 CD (600-700 megs). XP Home/Pro... 1 CD. Win2k3 1 CD.
Warcraft 3 - 1 CD. Doom 3 - 3 CDs. Riven (1997) - 5 CDs.
There hasn't been any increase whatsoever in the size of warez/apps/porn/whatever. The only thing has has changed has been the introduction to downloading DVD media like PS2 games or movies. Even still those only take a few hours to download on a 4Mbps connection.
We're talking 10Gbit in another 6 years. I highly doubt most apps will even double in size.. and even if they did, a common 2-5 CDs is nothing on a fast connection like that.
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No, there wasn't. But I do remember the day when I purchased my first box of ten 5.25" floppy disks. Ten of them, when I'd been using one for an entire semester. My $DEITY, I thought - I'll never need all this.
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There's no storage problem. GMail accounts will be 1 Terabyte by then. Email yourself a big attachment.
We won't have 2GHz processors that wait 99.999% of the time for your every keystroke, like they do now. They will be 20 GHz and will wait 99.9999%.
There will be mods that turn a motherboard into a radar.
Britney Spears will be an old married woman by then. You will be able to examine her stretch marks in high definition detail.
Not only that, home connection speeds have went from 512/768 to 2,3 and soon 4 and 5mbit/second.
I already get 4Mb at home, and 6Mb is offered in my area. In Japan, apparently 20-30Mbit is common. My colleages there get that speed, at least.
But the upload speed will still be around 128Kb/s.
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No, of course it's not necessary. We as a species have survived without it for 1.3 million years. For that matter, cars aren't necessary, hell, horses aren't necessary. But all of that isn't the point. The point is we have an opportunity to be able to transfer more data, do things better. We could keep doing things the old way, but if that was all we had ever done we'd still be sitting around a fire happy to be eating rabbits. Improvements aren't a bad thing, just because you don't see the immediate gain doesn't mean there wont be one.
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In a research project near my university, a professor wants to be able to store roughly 30 GB/s.
He is sampling some states in the nervous system.
O'course, he a bio prof, but that gives you some idea about scientific computation.
Now, let's think video.
Say in 10 years professional movie makers film in voxels, not pixels. That takes an incredible amount of storage.
Or say gaming- instead of relying on mega-servers to handle your rpg, you can run a 256-player game from your home machine without blinking.
I would wager only bus limitations prevent one from doing that with a modern 2 CPU system.
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You know i had doom1 given to me on a few floppies, same thing for warcraft, or windows 3.1.
And MSDOS fitted enterily on one 1.44 floppy, not so long ago...
700 megs / 1.44 = 486,11. Yay, a recent os is about 400 times bigger than msdos something like 12 years ago...
...that RealPlayer will still be Buffering 0%... 10%... 20%...
You must have been using Suse. Debian Sarge (the upcoming release) is 1 CD for the basic install, and 11 CDs more if you want to do more than basic things with it. These values are for ia32-CPUs, the coming 64-bit CPUs might see a twofold increase in binary size... (I don't have any data on that, though...)
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I think it will change the internet from a download-save-view to a streaming view as you download, but don't save internet. The speed could grossly outweight the development of harddrives. Also, the vast speed of streaming and bandwidth would make it worthless to save things that are just 1 time views...
I imagine VOIP being completely used worldwide. I see radio streaming, in place of radio. I see video phones, as a standard use of audio-only. I see cable TV over IP.
Cable TV over IP... That would be badass.