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Secret Service Seeks Indymedia Logs

sunbird writes "The Justice Department has issued a subpoena seeking IP logs from Calyx, the ISP for nyc.indymedia.org, after individuals posted [1 | 2 | 3] the names, addresses, and phone numbers of some of the RNC delegates. The subpoena was issued as part of an ongoing investigation of voter intimidation. As reported earlier in this Slashdot article, the Justice Department tried this before. Calyx, represented by the ACLU, responded, claiming that '[t]he only intimidation taking place here is the Secret Service intimidating people who speak out against the government.' [Full text of the letter available here] Read more: Indymedia.org | NYT"

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  1. Re:what the heck? by cloudmaster · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I don't give a damn what party McCain affiliates with, because he's not running for any office that I can vote for anyway. Both parties boil down to taking my money away and putting it into projects that I don't support, though, and both prez. candidates are unacceptable. And people wonder why voter turnout is so low...

    Too bad that Dr. that was running with a seemingly good plan ended up yelling and being excited once. Said the media, "Wait, that guy doesn't seem to fit either party's agenda very well. Let's make it appear as if he's crazy!"

    Sigh. At least I'm still free to choose the use of secondhand smoke as a means to slowly kill anyone who passes by me - if I want to. I hate incompetent bloated government.

  2. Please read, thx by mrfunnypants · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Bullshit. The whole point is to spread lies and sow dissent. Only one of those lying bastards even served with Kerry, and he got a medal for his actions *under fire* in the same engagement that he now claims didn't involve any fire.

    Wrong, I actually spent the time to email most of the vets, this is incorrect. Read this: Crews were trained as a unit, one officer and five enlisted at Coronado, CA. Boats did missions together in units. Therefore one boat would spend countless time on a mission with other boats. We went through training around Jan/Feb 1969.

    If you don't know that the Vietnam war was plagued by atrocities by all sides, then you don't know a damn thing about it and have no place pretending that you do.

    Again read what I wrote: I said he claimed those he served with committed those acts. The key is those he served with. Those people being the swift vets saying he is lying. Of course you know more than those who were there.

    He went. He saw what a clusterfuck it was and he came home and spoke out against the big fucking lie that we all now know that that war was. So this demonstrates that he can learn and even change his mind when the evidence overwhelmingly demands it. And the right wing media calls this flip flopping.

    Again, think please, if this is true then why now does he say how great he was for doing this? If I felt so strongly against something, I AM NOT going to then go and use my actions as a reason to vote for me. I would continue to speak out against this. P.S. He supposedly threw his medals away in protest; funny thing is those were not his medals.

    Dude, if you don't know his people are neck deep in this you are dumber than a bag of rocks.

    First don't change the subject I was talking exclusively about 527's. Second, calling me names is great evidence, keep it up.

    When has he changed his mind over pressure? He has changed his mind based on evidence. Bush refuses to change his mind in the face of evidence.

    You set yourself up for this:

    FLIP...

    Kerry 2004 announced Saturday: "I will work with Congress to lift the immigration ban on HIV-positive people that has prohibited the United States from hosting [an annual AIDS conference]."

    FLOP...

    February 1993, Boston Globe: "The US Senate dealt President Clinton his first legislative defeat yesterday, voting to write into law the Bush administration's policy prohibiting people infected with the AIDS virus from immigrating to the United States. The defeat came despite Sen. Edward M. Kennedy's spirited battle in defense of the president's commitment to lift the prohibition. The Senate voted, 76-23, to prevent people infected with the HIV virus, which causes AIDS, from immigrating, after defeating by a 56-42 vote an amendment by Kennedy that would have kept current federal policy in place for 90 days but left Clinton free to change it after that. Kennedy accused the Republicans of both racism and partisan mean- spiritedness.
    Voting for the prohibition were Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, Democrat of Connecticut; Sen. William S. Cohen, Republican of Maine; Sen. John F. Kerry; Sens. Judd Gregg and Robert C. Smith, Republicans of New Hampshire; Sen. John H. Chafee, Republican of Rhode Island; Sen. Claiborne Pell, Democrat of Rhode Island; and Sen. James M. Jeffords, Republican of Vermont.

    FLIP...

    In 1991, Kerry Supported Most-Favored Trade Status For China. "Sen. John Kerry said yesterday that he is breaking party ranks to support most-favored-nation trade status for China ... 'I think the president has some strong arguments about some of the assets of most-favored-nation status for China,' Kerry said." (John Aloysius Farrell, "Kerry Breaks Party Ranks To Back China Trade Status," The Boston Globe, 6/15/91)

    FLOP...

    In 2000, Kerry Voted In Favor Of Permanent Normal Trade Relations With China. (H.R. 4444, CQ Vote #251: Passed 83-15: R 46

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    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" -Confucius
  3. HEY MODERATOR by cyranoVR · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    See ya' in the M2 ;P

  4. Re:Indymedia by DAldredge · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Karin Malka, 23
    Tamara Butershvili, 65
    Aviel Atash, 3
    Emanuel Yossef, 28
    Denize Hadad, 40
    Shoshana Amos, 50
    Trienet Takala, 33

    (Some of the dead)

    Double bus bombings have rocked the southern town of Be'er Sheva, killing 16 - and wounding over 100, including close to 15 seriously. Police are on high alert nationwide.

    The twin bus bombs were detonated at around 2:55 P.M. on Rager Boulevard, near Be'er Sheva's City Hall. The buses were approximately 100 meters apart when suicide terrorists detonated their explosives.

    Over 100 people were evacuated to Soroka Hospital, including 23 with moderate wounds.

    Arutz-7 correspondent Moshe Priel spoke with Yaakov, the driver of the number 12 bus, which was targeted in the second blast. He described the horror he and his passengers experienced:

    "I was idling at the intersection, parallel to the second bus as an explosion went off inside it. I immediately realized that it was a bomb and decided to get far away from the area. I didn't succeed in driving the bus very far when all of the sudden all the passengers started yelling 'Open the doors! Open the doors!' I didn't know why but opened the doors nevertheless. I think about ten passengers were able to escape before there was a horrible explosion - something impossible to describe - God help us. The older passengers weren't able to escape in time and they are the ones who were wounded. I got off easy with scratches from the shattered glass and ringing in my ears."

    Priel also spoke to Nissim Vaknin, who was sitting behind the driver of the #6 bus, one of the terrorists was dressed like a woman. "I was sitting in the seat near the driver, and right near me a woman sat down who I suspected was a terrorist dressed like a woman," said Vaknin. "At a certain point I left my seat and moved toward the back of the bus. The explosion was near the front door and the whole bus filled with soot, smoke, screaming and yelling. I picked up a young girl in my arms who was shrieking - ran to the front of the bus, yelling to the driver to 'open the door.' I glanced at where I had been sitting and saw the 'woman' who sat down near me - torn to pieces."

    Hamas claimed responsibility for the double attack, saying it was a response to the recent wave of immigration to Israel. Be'er Sheva is home to a large number of new immigrants.

    Saeb Erekat of the PA issued a condemnation of the mass murder, and called upon the international community to take an active role in ensuring that Israel withdraw from Judea, Samaria and Gaza.

    Chairman of the National Union party MK Tzvi Hendel responded to today's terror attacks accusing Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of "undeniable responsibility for this bloodbath."

    Hendel added: "The Prime Minister encourages terrorists to murder more and more Jews with the obsessive pursuit of his expulsion plan."

    National Religious Party chairman Effie Eitam called upon Prime Minister Sharon to turn all his energy away from his disengagement plan and toward a resolved war on terror. Eitam said: "Instead of demonstrating his determination to uproot thousands of Jews from their homes, which will merely encourage further terror while tearing apart the nation and destabilizing the government, the Prime Minister must form a stable nationalist government that will fight terrorism to the death and put an end to the Palestinian dream that through terrorism they will be able to chase out the IDF and subdue the State of Israel."

    MK Gila Finkelstein (NRP) said: "I suspect this is just the beginning of the joyous celebrations of the terrorists. Today they begin their count-down to the withdrawal plan."

    Welfare Minister Zevulun Orlev said: "The harsh attacks have brought us down to earth - the painful situation, the illusion of quiet, and the disengagement are blowing up in our face. Instead of urging the IDF to uproot [Jews from Judea, Samaria and Gaza], the order should be given to intensify and continue the war against terrorism

  5. Re:Indymedia by DAldredge · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Funny, you don't appear to get pissed at the arabs who have done the same thing.

    Why is that?

    Regina Bublil Waldman, a Libya-born Jew, still recalls the minute details of the day 37 years ago when her homeland turned against her.

    The ordeal began in June of 1967, after the then-19-year-old translator for a British engineering firm in Tripoli received a phone call at work from her frantic mother.

    "Don't come home. There's a mob outside the house," Waldman's mother told her. "Find a place to hide."

    Waldman, who now lives in San Rafael, is a Mizrahi Jew, one of nearly 856, 000 Jews who fled Algeria, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Syria, Tunisia and Yemen in an exodus that began after the establishment of the state of Israel in 1948 and ended about 1970. Today, only an estimated 5,000 Jews remain in Arab lands, most of them in Morocco.

    In recent months, independent Jewish groups have begun a concerted effort on behalf of these "forgotten refugees," who they say were ignored by the global community after being absorbed by other countries -- mostly Israel --

    while Palestinian refugees captured worldwide sympathy for living in squalid camps in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and the Gaza Strip. According to the United Nations, 726,000 Palestinians were forced out or voluntarily left the new state of Israel.

    "In its zeal and need to address the plight of Palestinians, the world allowed the plight of the Jewish refugees to fall by the wayside," said Stanley A. Urman, executive director of Justice for Jews from Arab Countries, a New York-based coalition of 27 Jewish organizations.

    The campaign for justice for the Mizrahi Jews has strong support in Congress.

    On Monday, Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., is scheduled to introduce a resolution that would instruct U.S. envoys to raise the Jewish refugee issue every time the Palestinian refugee issue is raised as "an integral part of any comprehensive peace."

    "The senator believes it's important to move forward in the peace negotiations by considering all refugees, whether Christian, Jewish or Palestinian," said Robert Traynham, Santorum's communications director.

    Last year, House Resolution 311 called on the international community to recognize Jewish refugees who "fled Arab countries because they faced a campaign of ethnic cleansing and were forced to leave behind land, private homes, personal effects, businesses, community assets and thousands of years of their Jewish heritage and history."

    The World Organization of Jews from Arab Countries, a group affiliated with Urman's coalition, estimates the value of the confiscated property at more than $100 billion.

    The attacks against Waldman's family -- her father's warehouse, where he sold equipment to oil companies, was torched -- and on Libya's estimated 3,750 to 6,000 Jews began soon after the opening salvo of what is known as the Six Day War in Israel and "the setback" in the Arab world. Synagogues, homes and businesses were looted and burned, and more than 100 Jews were killed.

    Waldman hid out for a month at her employer's home while her father maneuvered to get the family out of Libya -- tricky business for people without passports. Most Libyan Jews had been denied citizenship even though many could trace their descendants back to the third century B.C.

    A month later, the entire Jewish community -- including Waldman, her parents, grandparents, an uncle and a brother -- was expelled by King Idris I. After a harrowing ride to the Tripoli airport -- her British boss rescued the family when the bus driver tried to burn the vehicle -- the family flew to Italy, where most still live today.

    "We lost all our property," said Waldman, a longtime Bay Area human rights activist and member of Jews Indigenous to the Middle East and North Africa (JIMENA), a San Francisco group that sends speakers throughout the United States to speak about the plight of Jews from Arab countries. "My father fell into a deep depression from n