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Secret Service Seeks Indymedia Logs
sunbird writes "The Justice Department has issued a subpoena seeking IP logs from Calyx, the ISP for nyc.indymedia.org, after individuals posted [1 | 2 | 3] the names, addresses, and phone numbers of some of the RNC delegates. The subpoena was issued as part of an ongoing investigation of voter intimidation. As reported earlier in this Slashdot article, the Justice Department tried this before. Calyx, represented by the ACLU, responded, claiming that '[t]he only intimidation taking place here is the Secret Service intimidating people who speak out against the government.' [Full text of the letter available here] Read more: Indymedia.org | NYT"
They represent a political party, which is a separate entity from the government.
You can argue technicalities all you want. When you come back to reality with the rest of us you'll recognize that the national committee delegates, for any political party, are the real power holders in the party. If President Bush would rub enough RNC delegates the wrong way you can bet that he'd be scraping his political career out of the toilet.
When the RNC and the DNC get together it is THEY who decide the next president. They only go through the motions of letting you vote so that you feel good about it. For the greatest part, however, they know months in advance how the charade is going to play out.
So, yes, people with that kind of power over the politicians who will spend 60+% of your hard-earned cash every year should be publicly accessible.
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I wish the Republican part were the "party of McCain". It feels more like the party of Jerry Falwell to me. I'd vote for McCain in a heartbeat, but never for anyone in the Bush family.
I would have, but he has lately demonstrated that his loyalty to his party exceeds his loyalty to his country.
When the same tactics were used against him as are being used against Kerry by the Bush campaign, to try and discredit the sacrifices of our soldiers, and McCain speeks out against such disgusting acts but still gets up and supports Bush, I lost all respect for him.
When a deserter slags the patriotism of a former POW and that ex POW sucks up to the deserter, that is picking his party over his country.
I had more respect for him.
No longer.
One of the major contributors to Indymedia is the Tides Foundation. The Heinz family (yes, Teresa's bunch) has given the Tides folks $4 million over the last few years.
...calling them "grassroots" when they're being funded by a deep-pockets political machine like the Tides Foundation is, well, wrong.
How convenient.
On the other hand, these people are presumably going to freely and publically walk into the Republican National Convention, in full view of any person who happens to be watching, right?? Or is it one of those secret society things where everyone wears a mask, nobody knows who's who and they all sneak in via multiple hidden entrances??
You know what? This country has a quarter of a billion people. You can not tell me there isn't a single person better for the job than any of the families currently abusing it. Your argument is begging the question by asserting hypothetical situations without context, and is therefore invalid.
Having two people from one family, separated by a single generation, proves we currently have something that isn't supposed to occour in a properly mediated democracy: a monarchy. When the presidency of the United States starts getting passed down any family line, it's time to start over.
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It isn't about privacy don't make the mistake based of some retarded slashdot editor that it is. They did not pick out a single person and shame them for their actions; they picked out a group based off their political affiliation in an effort to intimidate them.
This is an anti republican group who has decided to take upon itself the intimidating the delegates.
To clarify this would be akin to someone publishing a list of all the blacks in the city and telling everyone who took the list "Now Ya'll know what to do."
What's worse is we have people like Michael posting these biased stories because he is incapable of taking in the entire picture.
If personal attacks is what it takes to get Bush out of office, I'm all for them. Republicans use dirty tricks all the time, and the party that is nice will lose this one. If the Democrats are going to win this one, they've got to get mean. I know its against an intellectual mindset to do this, but now is the time to fight, and fight dirty.
Conservative thinking is intellectual. The Republican party, as it stands now, is anti-intellectual. The party is led right now by a small, militaristic, and very scary faction called the Neoconservatives. Their ideals appeal to dumb people who have kneejerk reactions to complex problems. Frankly, I see them, and what they stand for, as evil.
The ends certainly justify the means in the situation of getting these guys out of power. I support using every trick in the book to do it.
I dont think you understand. The purpose of the FBI is to protect the Hegemony of the bush administration. Therefore: Indymedia=bad, CIA revenge leak=good
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