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What Should be Included in a Linux Crash Course?

Olivier Van Acker asks: "Since I started working at my current job a year ago I've installed on average one (Gentoo) Linux machine a month. Included are developer desktop machines, development servers, router/firewall, web servers, video server, MPEG encoders, etc. (It's a platform for interactive television). Since I'm the only one who is able to maintain them I want to train two of my colleagues. I've got three days dedicated time, three computers to work with and they are both Linux/Open source newbies (A technician and a programmer). What should this crash course include, what is the best learning method and what resources are available online?" "My background: I'm a programmer, a systems engineer and I used to give IT training. I have been using Unix-based operating systems since 1995.

My list so far:

Linux system Installation

Software installation

General Linux system administration

Network administration

Web server configuration

Database administration

Video server administration

History of Unix and Linux

Philosophy of open source software"

110 comments

  1. Skip History and Philosophy by Phleg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're training them to use the software, not be Linux advocates. While it may be of value, when you are limited to three days, the number one priority is getting them comfortable with the system.

    And I would add a significant period of time covering the layout of the Linux filesystem--nothing is worse than having a bunch of novices with root access who drop random files wherever they damn well please.

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    1. Re:Skip History and Philosophy by Otter · · Score: 4, Insightful
      You're training them to use the software, not be Linux advocates. While it may be of value, when you are limited to three days, the number one priority is getting them comfortable with the system.

      I agree that this isn't the place to indoctrinate them on the details of acceptable language as defined by Richard Stallman. ("When someone refers to the 'Linux operating system', look blankly at them and pretend you have no idea what they're talking about.") But it certainly is worthwhile to make it clear to them that they can perform multiple installs from the same disk, and generally get the concept of freely licensed software across to them.

      Same with history -- don't get them bogged down in the minutiae of SCO charges and counter-charges, but do explain that almost all Linux software ("Linux...software? I don't know what you mean. Perhaps you're thinking of GNU/Linux?") will compile and run on other Unixes, and spend a minute or two talking about how other Unixes are similar to and different from Linux.

    2. Re:Skip History and Philosophy by AresTheImpaler · · Score: 2, Insightful

      not everything about the philosophy needs to be skiped. I think it's important to explain that it has a philosophy of "lots of small and specialized programs work better than one bloated program." For example in linux/unix lot's of programs are just really a frontend for several small programs that are very specialized. For example a program tu burn cd, might use cdrecord to burn, mpg123 to hear the mp3 files you have chosen, an encoder/decoder to convert it to a wav file, etc, etc. It's not one big program that tries to do everything.

    3. Re:Skip History and Philosophy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "lots of small and specialized programs work better than one bloated program."

      No begging the question there! Here's an equally biased statement taking the opposite stand:

      "One fully-integrated program works better than lots of small badly-named programs that are strung together to crudely approximate the desired function."

    4. Re:Skip History and Philosophy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's interesting that the limitations of 70's computer technology (command line interfaces, small programs, etc.) have now been elevated to a "philosphy". Shouldn't teletype machines be part of the Unix "philosphy" too?

    5. Re:Skip History and Philosophy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You shouldn't attempt to confuse them in order to thumb your nose at RMS. It's certainly worthwhile to explain the various parts of the sytem and their origin.

    6. Re:Skip History and Philosophy by DarkZero · · Score: 1

      "lots of small and specialized programs work better than one bloated program."

      No begging the question there! Here's an equally biased statement taking the opposite stand:

      "One fully-integrated program works better than lots of small badly-named programs that are strung together to crudely approximate the desired function."


      The philosophy doesn't have to be right; it just has to be THERE, which it most certainly is in Linux. The general statement that most Linux (or Unix) programs are built upon the idea that several smaller programs are better than one big one can really switch on the lightbulb above new users' heads. Once you realize that piping ls into grep is the same thing as pulling up Windows Explorer and using one of its many, many hotkeys to bring up a search function, Unix-based systems suddenly make a lot more sense.

      Until they learn at least a little bit about the philosophy behind what they're doing, it's all just "monkey see, monkey do", giving them no way to learn on their own.

  2. Throw them into the deep end by GypC · · Score: 3, Funny

    Make them bring their own computers to work, confiscate their hard drives, give them an empty hard drive and a slackware install CD. Tell them they'll get their hard drives back in a week.

    They'll figure it out if they like their pr0n enough...

    1. Re:Throw them into the deep end by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      and then later try to get them to configure the boxes like they should when others should be able to read the configs afterwards?

      they'll get to their porn sure, but haven't you ever been in shit with a totally 'wrong' way configured linux box, with stuff pushed into some startupscripts etc?

      (he should skip the history/philosophy part though, though he should mention that without support most things are free)

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    2. Re:Throw them into the deep end by BrokenHalo · · Score: 3, Funny
      What Should be Included in a Linux Crash Course?

      Heh. A Linux crash, of course. ;-)

    3. Re:Throw them into the deep end by Micro$will · · Score: 1

      This would actually work, but you'll need to give them basic instructions on fdsisk and Slack's setup. It would work better if you included RedHat or Fedora, but disabled and/or removed all the GUI configuration utilities. I've seen way too many newbies trash a fresh install by (mis)using redhat-*-config, and the programs will happily respond by making the config files unreadable.

    4. Re:Throw them into the deep end by FictionPimp · · Score: 1

      Thats exactly how I learned, I downloaded every distro I could think of. Built a new computer, and locked my windows box up in the storage locker. 1 week later i got my windows box back, and it still sits in the corner of my room. It took me a while, and it was very frustrating, but now I wouldn't go without it.

    5. Re:Throw them into the deep end by Curtman · · Score: 1

      He's already using Gentoo. It would be very difficult to install Gentoo and not learn a lot about the system in the process. The install handbook should be mandatory reading even if they won't be doing the installation.

    6. Re:Throw them into the deep end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But configuring a distro like RH/Mandrake without the GUI is probably much HARDER than configuing slack or Gentoo, since the latter are made to be configured manually.

  3. try another distro... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    you'll be able to get more than a one/month rate thanks to all the time saved not waiting for gentoo to compile.

  4. In a crash course? by farnerup · · Score: 5, Funny

    This should definitely be included:
    :(){ :|:& };:

    1. Re:In a crash course? by DarkDust · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This should definitely be included:
      :(){ :|:& };:

      Kudos, this is the coolest fork bomb I've ever seen :-)

    2. Re:In a crash course? by querencia · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You should teach them that the way to learn about stuff you see on /. is probably not to just load it into the command line and see what happens. Do a bit of research first and learn what will happen. Unless you're like me, with a chronic case of "need to learn things the hard way" and don't mind having to pull the damn plug on the machine.

      You should also teach them that they shouldn't believe everything they read on /.

      The safe way to see this fork bomb in action is to type it into a Cygwin shell on a Windows box. Try it.

    3. Re:In a crash course? by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      of course I first saw this fork bomb in a slightly different form...
      change the : to . and thats it.

      good to add that function to someones bashrc if they leave their terminal open. They are much more likely to unsuspectingly use . than : at the command
      line (why would you NOP in an interactive shell?)

      Anyway I first saw it in someones .sig and did a cut and paste into a bash shell because I just couldn't figure out what it did (my shell-fu is much better these days)

      My poor 486dx was never quite the same again... I could have sworn i heard a tiny scream every time I tried to source a file. Must have been shell shock.

      -Steve

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    4. Re:In a crash course? by Richard_J_N · · Score: 1

      Can you explain to me how this works? My bash scripting is fairly good, but I can't figure this out, and it's too dangerous to experiment! Thanks

    5. Re:In a crash course? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I sometimes do NOP in an interactive shell, because I have "ls" in my HISTIGNORE. If I've constructed an "ls" that I actually do want in my history, then I prefix the line with :;

  5. For starters... by kworthington · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...Stress security - complex passwords containing numbers, letters and punctuation that they will keep private. Show them some commands at a bash shell 'just in case' something goes wrong on the GUI side. Show them how to navigate the file system, both command-line and graphically. Teach them about man pages. Demo applications that they need, and tell them the names of replacement programs:
    Microsoft Office : OpenOffice.org
    Internet Explorer : Firefox/Mozilla
    PhotoShop : GIMP

    1. Re:For starters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Stress security - complex passwords containing numbers, letters and punctuation that they will keep private.

      It's funny that you assume that someone unfamiliar with Linux must know nothing about security. It's possible to not have used Linux but still choose good passwords or know what a command prompt is.

    2. Re:For starters... by lachlan76 · · Score: 1

      Unless they already have Cygwin then they have plenty to learn about the command line.

  6. Teach them how to learn by bluestar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    % man man

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    1. Re:Teach them how to learn by CornerScribe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Absolutely!

      You can't teach everything they need to know, and certainly not in that time period.

      Give them a good list of resources for Linux help. Man pages are great, but beginners may need a little more hand-holding than that.

      Good forums can be incredibly helpful. Don't forget an introduction to the shell and basic linux terminology. Nothing is worse than needing to know HOW to do something but having no clue waht to google for!

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  7. From my experience... by DarkDust · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... the single most important thing to explain in depth is the different filesystem scheme. Almost all users are used to the MicroSoft scheme with drives and it's one of the most important things to explain that in Linux and other UNIX systems there is no such thing as a drive as everything is exposed as one directory tree.

    This raises such questions as But how am I supposed to access my CD if I can't change the drive ? and other confusions. So pay attention that you explain how different media are mounted into the tree and what the big advantages of a single tree are (especially when combined with symlinks -> you can move tree parts onto different media/another hard disk and mount them somewhere and link to it, etc. pp.)

    Speaking of it, symlinks are also something new that no Windows user knows of. Many people think Windows desktop links are like symlinks but as we all know, they are not even close ;-) Same for NTFS junctions: they are simply hardlinks to directories, not symlinks. Explain the use of symlinks, e.g. when moving a tree part somewhere else and you leave a symlink at the old place pointing to the new place, or when installing different versions of a software and switching between them by changing the symlink.

    Of course the standard UNIX filesystem scheme with /{bin,lib,sbin}, /usr/{bin,lib,sbin}, /usr/local/{bin,lib,sbin}, /etc and /opt should be explained as well.

    Once your people understand this piece of Linux/UNIX the rest is a piece of cake to teach, IMHO.

    1. Re:From my experience... by helixblue · · Score: 1

      I completely agree. I have to constantly nail into their head what goes where. The hardest part is /sbin vs /usr/sbin. In order to help them understand, I draw a big diagram on the board showing them what each directory goes, and how it parallels with Windows and Mac OS X.

      It helps, but I have to drill into their head file locations every lesson it seems. At least until I teach them locate.

    2. Re:From my experience... by silicon+not+in+the+v · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Of course the standard UNIX filesystem scheme with /{bin,lib,sbin}, /usr/{bin,lib,sbin}, /usr/local/{bin,lib,sbin}, /etc and /opt should be explained as well.
      Oh, I couldn't agree more...so, um, care to explain a little? I'm relatively new to Linux, and this was one of the things that I've never found a good explanation of. I don't admin anything; I just installed and tried some distros on a desktop at home. What I didn't know was where to put stuff when I would download and want to install something. I ended up just installing things in subdirectories of my user directory because that's where they were downloaded and I was the only one who used that computer anyway.

      So what kind of stuff goes where? Let's say I downloaded Azureus(which I did). Where should I install that? Let's say I install something from the package manager--where the heck did it put it?
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    3. Re:From my experience... by dodobh · · Score: 2, Informative

      You would find this http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ a useful link to follow and read.

      The FHS explains the why of the distribution of the various files tossed around the system by various packages.

      As for the where were the files dumped, each package manager has a command to show you that.

      rpm -ql package-name will list the files installed via the rpm for package-name

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    4. Re:From my experience... by DarkDust · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, it's quite simple: programs go into bin directories, programs only intended for the superuser into sbin and libraries into lib.

      Then you have the different levels: /, /usr and /usr/local.

      Things in the top-level (/{bin,lib,sbin}) are the most elemental tools/libraries needed to start the system and rescue a broken system (/usr might not yet be mounted).

      The /usr level is for programs/tools for normal runtime. Most tools are found in this level. And /usr/local is for "third-party" programs that you've installed yourself, mostly when compiled from source.

      The bin and lib directories can also be found in other directories as well: the most notable is /usr/X11R6 which is such a vital and big software package that it is allowed to break the rule that additional packages should live in /opt. And if you have a look at your /opt/kde3 directory you'll find a bin and lib as well.

      There is another directory that can be found in many directories that have a bin and lib directory: the share directory, which holds data files for programs. You can find it e.g. in /usr, /usr/local, /usr/X11R6 and /opt/kde3.

      Whew... I hope it's of use for you :-)

    5. Re:From my experience... by Brandybuck · · Score: 1

      I have to constantly nail into their head what goes where. The hardest part is /sbin vs /usr/sbin.

      This is easy. Just ignore the horribly confused FHS and follow traditional Unix dictums. As the local admin you should NEVER be dumping stuff into /sbin or /usr/sbin. Because you are the local admin, you should be putting stuff in /usr/local. Putting your custom Perl scripts into /usr/sbin is as weird as putting them in C:\windows\system. Ideally you should be mounting / and /usr readonly the instant you finished installing.

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    6. Re:From my experience... by glitchvern · · Score: 1

      DarkDust gave a pretty good explanation. Where things go depend a bit on the distro. Most distros these days don't use /opt anymore. The only one which I can think of that uses it is Slack. Most distros and package managers place most files in /usr with the critically important files going into /{bin,lib,sbin}. /etc is of course where all the config files go. var is where variable data that programs keep around from one run of the program to the other like logs and such. Things you compile yourself as a machine's administrator should generally go into /usr/local, although it is worth noting that installing programs into your home directory is not a bad practice. It is extremely common to do so on actual multi-user machines on which you do not have administrator control. In fact the /usr scheme comes from when /usr (user) was where people's home directories were and became the place where user programs resided. Eventually administrators started installing user programs in /usr and moved people's home directories into /home. You can usually control where programs you install yourself go by passing --prefix=whereever to ./config

    7. Re:From my experience... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Now dats Old School!

      Word.

  8. This should have been included in the FAQ by now by Tim_F · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Ask Slashdot is not a place to get advice on how to do your job. Use Google. Teach yourself. Whatever. Just don't Ask Slashdot. All it tells your employer is that you're lazy and stupid.

  9. My Crash Course Syllabus by helixblue · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think you're about on track. So far I've had to teach two people at my current workplace (one mac user, one windows user) about Linux so that I can have a backup for when I go on vacation.

    The first thing I do is have them install Linux on a desktop -- SUSE in my case at the moment. While installing, I give them a bit of the history and philosophy, since it really helps in understanding why there are 2,000 packages to choose from, and why everything is modular and named weirdly (why do you have Linux, X11, Sawfish, Gnome, *AND* KDE?).

    Then I get them to learn how to make it a usable desktop machine for regular things (browsing, e-mail). After teaching them how to patch the machine, I start giving them administrative tasks.

    I mostly needed a backup for doing desktop support, as we've got about 50 unix servers and 100 unix desktops. Most of my training curriculum is tuned to giving them the ability to help other people with their mostly desktop problems, but perhaps you could make use of my Linux Training Syllabus anyways. It's setup as two 60-90 minute sessions a week, with the expectation that after 6 weeks they can handle all the normal problems that come up. It's been pretty successful so far, and I've got another coworker starting it in a few weeks.

    The hardest part for me was determining an order of lessons. For instance, I decided on teaching them how to customize their environment last. I need them to be able to handle whatever environment gets thrown at them without customization, and it's not crucial for them to debug problems. It is however, a great timesaver if you've really tuned your environment for you.

    I suppose the most important lesson of all is teaching them to use manpages and google to solve most of their problems. It annoys them when you don't give them a straight answer on how to fix something, but it really does make them more independent.

    1. Re:My Crash Course Syllabus by helixblue · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I hate replying to myself, but another comment reminded me of something important.

      In everything you do, you should try to relate it to something familiar to the user. If the user knows Windows, relate everything you can to them. Relate how /usr/bin is like Program Files, and that /etc is like the registry. Relate how X11 and Window managers and such work like Quartz and Finder. It helps to make strange names a little more familiar.

    2. Re:My Crash Course Syllabus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These are ostensibly intelligent people who already have a decent understanding of how computers work. It would be better to explain the purpose and function of /etc, X11, and so on rather than give them analogies that will eventually fail them.

    3. Re:My Crash Course Syllabus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you dumba$$, teaching a user the crypt man pages. HELO! its like giving a regular person when their car is broke, here is the codes and all the manuals figure out your problem and let me know what parts you need to fix it. It might work for the geek but they'll say F..it give my my winXP.

      my 2cents.

  10. not enough anyhow by HawkingMattress · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I'd try to teach them the logic behind Unix, that means explaining how the filesystem works, and doing alot of basic console excercices. Teach them the how to use pipes effectively, bash shortcuts, what you can do with ssh to remote admin lots of servers, how to find the info they need...

    Try to teach them cool things so they'll be happy and curious enough to dig more into it later. If it's a pain for them, they'll quickly forget it... And i'd stick at the console, show them how X works and what you can do with it, but have them use a console all the time. There's no way you can understand Unix by using graphical managment apps...

    Anyhow, 3 days is of course not enough to learn evrything, so I think you should really learn them how to think the Unix way, and stick to that.. then show them that using this way of thinking, they can resolve the problem themselves most of the time (and google helps alot too...)

    1. Re:not enough anyhow by HawkingMattress · · Score: 3, Informative

      Replying to myself, but i think the fist thing you should learn them is how to feel cumfortable with bash. Teach them at least the shotcuts to go at beginning/end of line/word, backward and forward delete word, kill line, and the reverse search mecanism. Then train them for maybe 30 minutes to use them effectively
      In my experience, they'll ask themselves after one hour how they have been able to live without such editing capabilities (most windows persons don't use editing shortcuts, even when they exists. They're generally not as handy), and that'll make their console experience much more interesting instead of being fustrating... Plus, they're learning emacs at the same time, which could be usefull.

    2. Re:not enough anyhow by lachlan76 · · Score: 1

      Give 'em some practice on Cygwin under Windows, if that's the OS they've been trained in. That at least gives them something to do during the install.

      I learnt the basics in a weekend on a P2 450, (CLI, Gnome, KDE), you could learn to work on a command line somewhat in 3 days.

      Teach scripting later.

    3. Re:not enough anyhow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could you explain how to do all these? Also, is there a way to scroll up and down the screens in bash?

    4. Re:not enough anyhow by HawkingMattress · · Score: 1

      In emacs style, where C=ctrl and M=meta, generally Alt on a pc. Beginning of line : C-a
      End of line : C-e
      Preceding word: M-b
      Next word: M-c
      delete word after cursor: M-d
      delete word before cursor: M-backspace
      kill (end of) line: C-k
      paste (previously killed ):C-y Reverse search : C-r, then type the first letters of a command you previously entered, enter to redo command, C-c to quit

      Others: M-u: capitalize word after cursor
      M-l : decapitalize word M-c : capitalize letter after cursor
      C-t: invert letters

      And of course TAB for command and filename completion.

      Using those instead of the cursor keys makes a lot of sense with others shortcuts too :
      C-b: preceding letter, C-f:next letter

  11. Let them train themselves... by vasqzr · · Score: 0


    I don't see much sticking in 3 days. I could see an installfest of sorts

    Give them a big fat Linux book and tell them to go home and read.

    1. Re:Let them train themselves... by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 1

      And have them install Linux on their desktop, preferably at work *and* at home.

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  12. Automated installs, packaging managers by SgtChaireBourne · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Are you covering desktop machines or mostly servers?

    Either way, show them how to make a kickstart disk or other ways to automate a custom installation.

    Packaging managers are a must. Whether it's dpkg or rpm or yast, show them the different tricks and options. Also, if show how to roll a custom package, but choose one of the simpler ones.

    For servers, cover iptables, tcpwrappers, inetd/xinetd, sshd, sudo and apache. System log file analysis is another must.

    For desktop machines, cover KDE/Fluxbox/Gnome. Kiosk mode might be useful for some parts of your work environment.

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    1. Re:Automated installs, packaging managers by BumbaCLot · · Score: 1

      "Packaging managers are a must. Whether it's dpkg or rpm or yast, show them the different tricks and options. Also, if show how to roll a custom package, but choose one of the simpler ones"

      He uses gentoo. No need to learn tricks when you have emerge.

  13. but kill a few GPL myths along the way by SgtChaireBourne · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Since time is short and the focus is one getting them settled in with administrating the system, history and philosophy don't need a separate section.

    That said, a few words here and there to put to rest some of the myths about the GPL can be quite useful. Also, sometimes a little history is needed to put things in context. Just a few words, though.

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    1. Re:but kill a few GPL myths along the way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you referring to the pro-GPL myths or the anti-GPL myths?

  14. how does that make sense? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A programmer that doesn't know anything about Linux... What kind of programmer is he, and what "programming" school did he go to? That's just sad.

    1. Re:how does that make sense? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably about 1/2 of progammers that graduated more than 5 years ago.

  15. The most important command by kelleher · · Score: 2, Insightful
    man

    If they know how to find information they can learn and solve problems without you.

    1. Re:The most important command by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most man pages suck.

      Maybe one way to help progress in that direction would be a web site listing the worst manpages in various distributions, so that shame might push people to re-write them.

    2. Re:The most important command by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Man pages are impossible to read. Don't be silly; there's no real information there. I don't even know why people bother to maintain them.

      Here's an example, I want to use tar to gzip a directory and put it in a file. Using the man page to find the syntax involves scrolling through 30 pages of worthless shit before finding the examples, and THEN you can work out what to do. By contrast, I can get the answer with Google using "I'm Feeling Lucky" in like a 10th the time.

      You can't search man files like you can Windows Help and OS X Help files (or if you can, I haven't figured out how.) Man files never cover processes that involve more than one command, while Windows and OS X help files frequently do.

    3. Re:The most important command by cbcbcb · · Score: 1

      You can search man pages by pressing /. (assuming your pager is 'less' which it is on most Linux distributions)

      An example of a process involving more than one command being documented in a man page:

      $ PAGER='grep rsh' man xauth
      Reformatting xauth(1x), please wait...
      % xauth extract - $DISPLAY | rsh otherhost xauth merge -

    4. Re:The most important command by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1
      If you're trying to convince me that a help system that requires text like:


      $ PAGER='grep rsh' man xauth
      Reformatting xauth(1x), please wait...
      % xauth extract - $DISPLAY | rsh otherhost xauth merge -


      to appear on the screen is as good as the help in MacOS X or Windows, you're failing ... utterly.
    5. Re:The most important command by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man files never cover processes that involve more than one command...

      The cdrecord man page covers using mkisofs, mount, ls, and then cdrecord to create and burn a filesystem onto a cd.
    6. Re:The most important command by at_18 · · Score: 1

      No, the "xauth extract..." is the complex command example inside a man page that you asked for. It's in the xauth man page, and you can look at it immediately searching for "rsh" (type /rsh and press Enter).

    7. Re:The most important command by kelleher · · Score: 1
      You must excuse me for being a Unix user long before Google existed. man pages aren't impossible to read, you just need to learn to read them. I'll admit it seems a daunting task, but it's very useful. Try googling for information when the firewall is what you're trying to fix...

      To learn how to search man pages, type "man more" if your pager is more or "man less" if your pager is less. And unlike Windows Help and OS X Help files you can use regular expressions. There's also no gui overhead - very nice when the equipment your working on is 800 miles away and only allowed to connect to the systems via SSH.

      I guess if you had ever bothered to type "man man" I wouldn't be responding to your post...

    8. Re:The most important command by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it's a "daunting task" wouldn't it make more sense for developers to improve or replace it rather than forcing each new generation of users to slog through a poorly-designed system?

    9. Re:The most important command by kelleher · · Score: 1
      Please don't misquote me. I wrote "it seems a daunting task". And I don't beleive it's poorly designed - it's just a lot of information in a compact format. That seems to bather people who don't/won't take the time to understand the format. Once you get it all man pages make sense.

      The first time someone told you "everything is a file" when describing Unix it probably sounded goofy/confusing. But after you understand what that means the power and control it gives you is awesome. man pages are like that - take the time to understand the format and all the information you need is right there in front of you.

    10. Re:The most important command by Anonymous+Luddite · · Score: 1

      >> slog through a poorly-designed system?

      Man pages can be a little dry reading, but all the information is there for a reason.

      If you can't read a few screens of text to get your question answered, you might as well unplug the computer right now and use it as a doorstop...

  16. Don't forget to get them a book by xanthan · · Score: 2, Informative

    Give them each a book as a present to start with -- it gets the juices going and it also gives them a place to reference. This lets you focus on concepts and lets the book serve as a memory of what they are learning.

    A great book to start with is Linux Administration: A Beginners Guide. Good stuff. Especially helpful for administrators moving from Windows power user to Linux administrator.

  17. This is an admin course: Hardening and backups. by grnbrg · · Score: 5, Informative
    A linux box is easy to install. Much harder to maintain one that is safe and secure.

    They should know how to protect the system from disaster and attack. Tips on hardening should include:

    • Hardening a new install with the Bastille Linux scripts. What these are and what they do.
    • IP tables configuration. What IP tables is, why it's important, and how to configure it. This may or may not be in relation to Bastille.
    • Tripwire. A PITA to configure, but *really* useful in knowing what is happening on the server.
    • Kernel options. Do you need loadable modules on a production server? Disable them if not. Do you need USB or CDROM access? Remove them from the kernel. If it's not needed, don't include it.
    • Kernel upgrades. When and why. Just because the latest 2.6.87 kernel has been released is no reason to put it in. However, if there is a remote root 'sploit posted to Bugtraq for the current kernel, everything else is a lower priority.
    • BugTraq and other security lists. What they are and why they should be monitored.
    • Application security patches. Like kernel upgrades, guidelines on why and when production apps should or should not (or must) be upgraded.
    Also important would be a good understanding of how to set up a backup regime. This should include topics like:

    • tar, and it's more esoteric options, such as multi-volume tarfiles, dump levels, etc.
    • Rotation schemes. What is Grandfather, Father, Son? Why is it important to do this? What is the difference between a differential and an incremental backup?
    • Backup media. Redundant hard drive? CDR? DVD-R? Tape? Onsite vs offsite?
    • Recovery procedures. Ok, you've got a backup. What do you do if you need it? You have tested the tapes, right? :)
    Some thought on a disaster plan might be a good idea too.

    grnbrg.

  18. The most important thing is to... by Singletoned · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Write up your course and release it on the web under a Creative Commons license so that the rest of us can also use it to learn/teach and so that we can improve upon it for you.

    You know you should ;)

  19. some handy things: by focitrixilous+P · · Score: 2, Insightful
    a working knowledge of vi and/or emacs would probably be helpful. at least enough to edit files and save them, and maybe a couple tricks.

    the basics of installing new programs for whatever distro you train them on

    bash / other shell usage

    And the most important to any linux user:

    Nethack. How to move about and kill grid bugs, stairs, not to attack dragons, etc...

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  20. Crash by !the!bad!fish! · · Score: 4, Funny
    I think a linux crash course should include:
    Kernel Panic &
    Segmentation Fault

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  21. from my own gentoo experience by tyndyll · · Score: 1

    -- learn what to do when you reboot and your ReiserFS comes up read only

    -- research hardware problems (yes, of course i knew i had to unplug my PCMCIA NICs, load the appropriate modules, and then repeat the procedure later...)

    not that i'm bitter.... had to go back to Win2k due to some work arriving in but i will return gentoo and dammit you will work!!!

    *grovelling* tho if someone could explain the filesystem problem for me that would be great...

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    1. Re:from my own gentoo experience by xoran99 · · Score: 1

      If even root cannot write to your ReiserFS partition, then you've got it set in /etc/fstab to mount read-only, I think.

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  22. Documentation by Spoing · · Score: 2, Interesting
    If you don't have policies and procedures, you might want to start there and slip the Linux-specific stuff in as an implementation of them.

    I don't mean creating and enforcing ridgid doctrine, though.

    Here's an example -- if you've never done this or need a refresher;

    1. Backup procedure;
    2. Log the status of all network-based backups in the book (paper journal).
    3. Schedule backups so that they occur regularly including moving backups to an off-site location.
    4. If a system is added/removed or failed to be backed up note it in the book.
    5. If a system can't be backed up over the network or does not require backup, note it somewhere.

    The tool(s) used are up to the admin and training in them should be direct and simple. The people who are new to the tools should be given resources (books, notes, and someone experienced to talk to). That the tasks are being performed at all should be easily verifiable. Keep it simple as possible so that it actually gets done, though have it just formal enough that someone else can figure out what should be done -- not necessarily be told how they should do the job.

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  23. From experience by therubberduckie · · Score: 1

    I know they are lame books, but when I wanted to start learning Linux, I picked up "Linux Administration for Dummies" I read the thing through and it helped a ton. I would also agree with an earlier post to relate things to what ever OS they are used to. It took me weeks to figure out that there was no C: and D: trees. Thirdly I would make sure to cover the basics, and get them used to the command line. good luck.

  24. Here's an idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have them make backspace and delete do the right things on all linux machines, including when connecting from one to another and inside mc, vi, and emacs. Then write that up and post it somewhere where I can find it.

  25. A table of equivalents, replacements .... by pentium69 · · Score: 1
    ... of Windows software in Linux should be used in the course. (assuming they are windows users)

    http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=progr am+equivalents+linux+windows&btnG=Google+Search&me ta=/ After all, it is mostly about the applications right?

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  26. Shell scripts and booting by swillden · · Score: 2, Informative

    In addition to the other good stuff that has been mentioned (file system layout, key config files, etc.), I think a very important thing for anyone who needs to administer Linux/Unix systems to understand is a bit of shell scripting. They don't have to be able to write scripts, but being able to read them is immensely valuable, because so much of how the system works is held together by script glue.

    And there's one particular part of the system that is both very important and almost entirely scripted: The boot process.

    It's hard to overestimate the value of understanding the boot process. Nearly any kind of system problem can be traced down by first figuring out where the process in question got started, how, and with what parameters. Don't know what files you use on this system to configure networking? Look at the boot scripts. Don't know where X server messages get logged to? Look at the boot scripts. Don't know what parameters are used to start apache? Look at the boot scripts. And so on.

    In addition to being a basic troubleshooting tool, understanding the init process does more than anything else to "de-magick" the system. When you see how simple the boot process is, and how everything gets started up, you suddenly understand that there is no magic here; everything is out in the open, visible and understandable. In my experience this knowledge does more to build confidence in new Linux admins than anything else, because it lets them know that whatever goes wrong, they can dig down and find out why. To Windows users/admins, this is a revelation of huge proportions, because they're so used to thinking that stuff just happens magically and they have no real visibility into it or control over it.

    I think building their confidence is important, also. Unless they're really gung-ho about the whole idea, they're probably going to be frustrated from time to time by the fact that this environment is not what they're used to. Giving them the understanding that they have the tools to figure out and fix just about anything should go a long way to compensating for the discomfort of a different environment.

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    1. Re:Shell scripts and booting by man_ls · · Score: 1

      I resent that.

      As a Windows admin with complete and utter control and understanding of everything my box does, and why, I will indeed grant you that Windows does *allow* you to believe it's all magic.

      It does not, however, keep you out of the nitty-gritty if you're willing to go looking for it. Tools to see startup items and their properties, tools to directly manipulate the LDAP database and XML schema of an AD domain, all exist.

      If anything, MS admins have to be better problem solvers than Linux admins -- simply because it's a lot less obvious what's going on, you have to do a lot more looking. But doing so gives you a very good understanding of the internal workings of the system.

    2. Re:Shell scripts and booting by swillden · · Score: 1

      I resent that.

      Chill, man.

      As a Windows admin with complete and utter control and understanding of everything my box does, and why, I will indeed grant you that Windows does *allow* you to believe it's all magic. It does not, however, keep you out of the nitty-gritty if you're willing to go looking for it.

      I'll grant you that you have a lot more understanding and control than most Windows users or even most Windows admins, but Unix takes this to a much higher level because it was designed to be open and accessible -- with no tools more sophisticated than a text editor, I might add (though there are more sophisticated tools, if that's what you like).

      And there's simply no comparison when it comes to the level of control the administrator has. On a UNIX box, you can control absolutely everything that happens after "init", and you can do it to whatever level you desire, making it conditional on whatever you want.

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  27. Basic Linux Training by Skipworthy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Its real nice to point and say 'please consult the excellent documentation', but a total newbie probably doesn't even know what they are looking *for*

    Teach them:
    File system stuff- where, how- make a new directory, find a file, check permissions
    - permissions- look at and change
    -mounting devices (start above with 'Linux sees everything as a file system'), unmounting devices, names of devices
    - text editors. vi, emacs, whatever. start from the gui of your choice and show them the equivalent of notepad (Kate, gedit whatever)
    - equivalent apps- openoffice, firefox, thunderbird whatever you use.

    All this will make them comfy on the desktop. then:

    -review network basics, and show them the basic utilities- how to look at and reconfigure a network connection
    - show them top, ps , grep, awk and df/du, DD, cp,

    After that, go teach them about more specific stuff. nothing else will make much sense to a Linux newbie...philosphy and pedagogy is important, but should take a back seat unless it relates directly.

    And yes, show them the docs, the forums etc, and hand them a book and show them where stuff is.

    'RTFM' is just rude and arrogant.

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  28. The most important thing can't be taught by menscher · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I've been looking to train a replacement, and therefore have been thinking about this a lot. The most important "skill" is maturity. They need to be mature enough to prioritize tasks, handle the responsibility of keeping data secure, and not tinker with things too much.

    As a sysadmin I've had the opportunity to work with, or closely observe the work of, about 30 other admins. The ones who do well are those that have a healthy respect for the system. I try to keep my setups as default as possible. Any change must have a good reason. This keeps things more stable (defaults are better tested) and easier for my replacement. The "problem" admins are the ones that can't resist tweaking everything. Yes, they might get a 1% performance boost, but they're also more likely to generate system instability.

    In terms of priorities, there are a few basic rules: #1 priority is security, #2 is stability, and #3 is performance or other user requirements.

    Finally, there's the concept of structuring the environment. Think about dependencies. Try to consolidate services so there's a single point of failure. This means not having multiple fileservers with crossmounts. Running a single OS/distribution will make your life a lot easier, assuming your shop doesn't require the diversity.

    As others have said, there's a lot you can teach them about how to read manpages and use google, but without the basic philosophy of how to be an admin, all their knowledge will probably just lead them to manage unstable systems.

    1. Re:The most important thing can't be taught by Krunch · · Score: 1

      While I agree that running a single OS can make the admins' life much easier, if you really put security as #1 priority you should better not run the same software everywhere.

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    2. Re:The most important thing can't be taught by menscher · · Score: 1
      if you really put security as #1 priority you should better not run the same software everywhere

      I think you're confusing security with ability to stay up during a crisis (stability). Yes, if you're running a webserver farm, it's good to have a spread of OSes to keep them from all dying from the same thing. But that's a stability issue, as the concern is keeping them online, not keeping intruders out.

      The more common case is to have a few machines that users log in to. If those machines are all the same, there's one set of security vulnerabilities for attackers to find. If you have 2-3 flavors, there are 2-3 times as many vulnerabilities (plus some extras for the configuration between them). As you will recall, I place security above stability, hence my comment of keeping the number of OSes to a minimum.

  29. Learn to learn by UrgleHoth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In three days, you are not going to get anything except the abolute fundamentals to stick. Since we all learn by hanging new knowledge on our existing experiences, the best you can do is show them how they can use resources at hand such as books, web, ask slashdot ;) to teach themselves. Any specifics should be directly job related.

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  30. make a wiki by discogravy · · Score: 2, Insightful
    make a wiki out of your course. others have suggested making it a creative commons licensed thing, but if you make a wiki, users can pick and choose what they want to look up right-quick, as opposed to googling for a FAQ, then having to tear through the whole thing for the answer to their question; a lot of times, a user encountering a problem will not know what the proper question is. an example entry for permissions (on ext2/ext3 FS's) would link (or explain) lsattr and how some files can be immutable even if you're root and it's on a writeable disk/dir/location with proper permissions.

    example configs with thourough documentation would be most edifying, of course. a friend of mine has a FreeBSD wiki (still a work in progress, i'm sure that when there's more content he'll want to make it more well-known, but for now, no link) and it's been quite handy and I've seen how useful it is to find something right away with no-nonsense answers.

  31. Linux Crash Course by Omega1045 · · Score: 1

    You mean a course on when Linux crashes? Perhaps a boot disk HOWTO, or suggestion on configuring grub with mulriple kernels....

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  32. Infrastructure configuration mangement. by Joseph+Vigneau · · Score: 1

    One resource you should check out and possibly incorporate is the Infrastructures.Org practices for reproducable configuration management.

  33. Agreed: Get "Linux Administration" by Graham&S by KWTm · · Score: 1
    A great book to start with is Linux Administration: A Beginners Guide

    I concur. Helped me greatly, even just admin'ing my own machine. Has questions at the end of each chapter. (Better than O'Reilly's "Running Linux")

    Written by Steven Graham & Steve Shah; published by McGraw-Hill Osborne (www.osborne.com). ISBN 0-07-222562-9

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  34. Tarballs and building from source. by oddbudman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seems strange noone has mentioned it but you should teach them how to download source code and build it. The ol' tar zxvf, configure, make, make install steps. Teaching them how to administer patches too would definitely be relavant.

    Furthermore you should give them some tips on troubleshooting. Ie searching google and IRC for tips and advice. Knowing where to turn to for help is _very_ important. Also make them read he "How to ask questions" guide. This way you won't have them suffer humiliation from some l33t bigot.

    Your list of tasks you want them to do indicates that you really need to focus on getting them to grips with the terminal. I reckon your being pretty ambitious if you think you can pull it off in 3 days. Perhaps give them all a little reference pocketbook as part of the course.

  35. o'reilly by kevin+lyda · · Score: 1

    there used to be an o'reilly book - essential system administration. billed as the book you need when your admin isn't around. dunno if they maintain it, but it was great back in 1995.

    to encourage them to learn, show them the intro man pages - man 1 intro; man 2 intro; man 3 intro; etc.

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  36. Learning the UNIX operating system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This would be useful, give the link to them to check out.

    Whether it's Linux, Solaris, BSD, etc. etc. they all have some very fundamental similarities which are fairly important to know if you're going to be using a UNIX-like OS.

    Also check out this awesome selection of Linux books/material, especially the newbie-geared books. They would be very beneficial to anyone looking to learn about Linux.

  37. linux.org/courses by olscratch69 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Speaking as someone who is fairly new to world of linux based operating systems, I would suggest the courses on www.linux.org. They are based on a debian system, but most of the basics for all linux systems are there. I learned more from that then any other information I have come accross so far. First take a look at yourself and see what you would like to stress as important and go over those sections in the time you have with them. Then you can give them some homework by having them go over the courses at home.

  38. something to add by rayde · · Score: 1

    along with your course, I think you would be smart to send each student home with a copy of Knoppix so they can play around on their own time. If they're like most tech people, their computer use won't stop when they leave work, and knoppix would be an easy way for them to explore linux on their own. as most computer users will tell you, exploration is the best way to learn

  39. Re:o'reilly- (still availabel and GREAT) by Skipworthy · · Score: 1


    Essential System administration is in fact still availabel, recently (2003?) updated even...and its a *great* resource, very thorough but I wouldn't recemmend it to just anyone. its very dense and dry, and it goes into pretty good detail on a lot of things.

    S

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  40. "cd .." by EvilSporkMan · · Score: 1

    Apparently, cd.. is a shell built-in or something on Windows that does the same thing as "cd ..". I recently got my coworkers to try Knoppix at home, and they said it took them a while to figure out what was "wrong". Either wean them off it quickly, or show them how to alias it in .bash_profile.

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  41. erm by evil_one666 · · Score: 1

    1) If you have a programmer and a technician in the year 2004 who have absolutely no experience of open source, then you, and they, have a problem. The best way to "learn" "open source" is to have an interest in it, without interest, you cannot learn. Seeing as open source is a logical progression from just about any IT platform around, this should not be a problem. How you can be a programmer or a technician in this day and age without ever having used linux (at least once) completely escapes me.

    2) 3 days to "learn" "open source"?!!? This is just not going to happen for those who have never shown the inclination until now. The philosophy and practices of every open source platform and language in 3 days?!?!?

    conclusion) Open source can and should ALWAYS be your starting point for any IT related endevour. If it is not, then why not? Further, "open source" cannot be "taught" in three days, in the context of a presumably proprietary monoculture. Heres what you do:- find an open source tool that solves at least one problem, or streamlines at least one task that your IT team is experiencing. The merits of open source will be made clear by the ease and practicality of the utility its self. The open source expertise will come by using the utility over and over agian to successfully solve the same problem and save valuable development time. This will make your staff open source experts.

    Forget the 3 day seminar- it wont work. Use those 9 man days on something useful

  42. PS and it's options by Cirrocco · · Score: 1

    I think perhaps the single most handy (and most used) program on my Linux box, INCLUDING INIT, is PS, specifically PS AUX, and it's partner KILL -9.

    When I brought an older computer back from the dead with RH 7.1 one of the first things I taught the guy it was for was how to call up a terminal and use PS and KILL. Because sometimes, rarely but often enough, something will crash on you and you need to know how to kill it and where to look to do it.

    Example: Xine crashes on me all the frickin' time. So I kill it about every 3rd time I use it.

    The other thing that I pass on about *nix in general (and, really, computers in general) is one of the first things *I* was taught: everything on the computer is a file. Right there, it turned the computer from being a monolithic and enigmatic device into something I could actually use. All I had to do then was understand the parts and how they worked together.

    Others have mentioned the file system, and they're right, you should teach them about it. Help them understand INIT.D, .bashrc (if you're a bash-head like I am), and ifup and ifdown. Oh, and PING. Oh, and the terminal and how to call one up under X.

    There are about a million things you could teach someone in this course, all of them valid. If I could only teach someone a handful of things before setting them loose these would probably be at the top of the list.

    Honestly, I don't know how you're going to teach people enough admin knowledge to do a decent job in just 3 days. It took me at least 6 months of personal instruction to really get the hang of it. Good luck, though!

  43. Better Yet by JoeCommodore · · Score: 1
    Have them back up thier data on thier hard drive, repartition it, and then install Linux.... Maybe also have a "problem system" around as a lab excersize (one with some wierd video or sound card that requires some research and extra effort to get running. (this is real world experience here, I've experienced it many times...)

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  44. Google by r_jensen11 · · Score: 1

    http://www.google.com/linux That should help them out a lot. Also, be sure to teach them the basics of networking and how to set that up. For example, if these are clients on a network, be sure to explain the difference between Static IP and DHCP, as well as how to set each type up.

  45. Basic Linux Training by loopo · · Score: 1

    Basic Linux Training Course
    The Basic Linux Training Course is an online introductory level course written specifically for those coming from a DOS/Windows background, without any knowledge of Unix or programming.
    http://www.basiclinux.net/

  46. Since they come from windows by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

    I have read many good suggestions, having come from stricly Windows myself sometime ago, 3 things were indispensable to me
    1) learning how to question either searching through man or on teh web
    2) software installation / compiling kernel ( let them install the OS on the computers you have set aside / it'll breed familiarity very quickly. )
    3) tell em not to fight the OS, that was my biggest obstacle. Rembering that I was in control of the OS and not pointing it where I wanted to go. Here is a good analoy, Windows is like a horse, you direct it to where you want it to go, but it won't do it precisely how you want. *nix is more like a car. You can steer it precisely where and how you want it to go.

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  47. Good Linux course material by rastin · · Score: 1

    The biggest problem I've had in indoctrinating myself in Linux isn't finding out how to do something but in seeing the larger picture of how things interrelate. I'm also a big fan of the whole O'Reilly series, what would be cool would be a Linux Cookbook with scripts that analyze configs or monitor potential problems. I can always turn to the web and geek out on JFS internals or bash commands but that only answers the small questions. I'm not a kernel geek but things like how to recompile your kernel with a built in module, then how to remove the configs for the old linked module would be a life saver. I fear I have many unused configs or some conflicting ones at the very least.

  48. MC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Midnight Commander is an indespensible utility. Especially when it comes to editing config files.

    I first found out about it back when I was using Red Hat 4.2 and I have loved it ever since.

    A friend of mine was taking a Linux/Unix administration class at the local community college and had a few linux questions for me. He logged on to his box and let me take the keyboard.

    He was floored when he saw how convienent mc was. He actually showed his professor and HE had never used it before.

    Especially for old school DOS users, mc can help make linux administration less alien and more efficient.

  49. Online free browsable courses by jio · · Score: 1

    I have a few courses that I teach here in the Netherlands, feel free to browse them online (I have the slides freely available).

    http://www.schabell.com/course

    Good luck and feel free to contact me,
    erics

  50. So what DOES it do??? by KlaymenDK · · Score: 1

    Hey bright people,
    I'm sure it's all fine and dandy that you all come with little do's and don'ts, but a few of us would like to know what that little gimmick actually does, *in plain english*.

    My "shell-fu" is practically nonexistent, and I don't have cygwin (the app, the source, the need or the skill).

    Please, could someone post a two-liner about what the devil that bunch of parentheses do, and why it would be dangerous to do the obvious and copy/paste it?

    Thanks.....

    1. Re:So what DOES it do??? by querencia · · Score: 1

      Is your "google-fu" also nonexistent, or are you just lazy?

      http://www.google.com/search?q=%22fork+bomb%22

    2. Re:So what DOES it do??? by KlaymenDK · · Score: 1

      _Is your "google-fu" also nonexistent, or are you just lazy?_

      Neither -- the dictionaries I frequent were unfamiliar with this term, and the web sites I dug up were rather much unrelated (at least it seemed so, but then I didn't really know what I was looking for). Have _you_ tried to search for ":(){ :|:& };:"? That results in "Barnes & Noble" and suchlike...

      Alas, I still was not able to decipher what the ":(){ :|:& };:" bit actually does. Anybody else willing to take a stab at explaining it?

    3. Re:So what DOES it do??? by querencia · · Score: 1

      OK.

      FYI -- your google-fu is nonexistent. I set up a google search for you for "fork bomb". If you had actually done that search and followed a link or two, you would have found this: http://www.madisonlinux.org/pipermail/madlug/2003- October/007113.html.

      What's more, you would have had to read some stuff to find it, which would have made you a bit more intelligent in the process.

      The next time you have a specific question like this, you shouldn't doubt for a second that you can find the answer online. Google till you find it! You'll learn along the way. The most important thing you'll learn is how to get better at finding information the next time you have a question.

  51. Re:The MORE important command by KlaymenDK · · Score: 1

    ...and when the puny user has typed those three characters and punched ENTER, he may find himself locked into a Wordperfect-style textual GUI with no obvious way out. ESC doesn't work. CTRL-C/BREAK doesn't work. CTRL-X doesn't work.

    I can type "man thingamabob" to find out how something works, but from there I don't know how to look for the next thing. And, how the devil do you scroll up?

    No, the most important comment to go with the "man" command is the information that a simple single "Q" gets out out of it again. (This at least, is my story.)