Star Wars TV Show, And An Unmade Trilogy

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Star Wars TV Show, And An Unmade Trilogy

Posted by timothy on Saturday September 11, 2004 @07:00AM from the make-your-trilogy-or-no-allowance dept.

Necromutant writes "Mark Hamill comments about Episodes 7, 8, and 9 really got everyone's attention. Mark told those in attendance what Lucas told him the third trilogy would be about. Also confirmed today officially, a Star Wars television show coming in the future. -- I don't know if I should be happy or scared..."

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A big stick and a dead horse by Izago909 · 2004-09-11 07:01 · Score: 5, Insightful

Lucas is going to milk this story for all it's worth. He won't be satisfied until Star Wars is the campiest sci-fi series ever put on film. If he would have stopped after the first 3 movies, he would have been remembered as one of the greatest sci-fi producers ever. After the first 2 new episodes came out, the franchise has started to become the ass end of sci-fi jokes. I don't see another 3 improving the image of the series.
1. Re:A big stick and a dead horse by sqmagellan · 2004-09-11 07:06 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  I can see another triology helping the Star Wars genre, but only if Lucas steps down as either Writer or Director. Sure, he can make some wonderful special effects, but he needs more creative imput if he plans his new saga touching more than just the most hardcore of fans.
2. Re:A big stick and a dead horse by bravehamster · 2004-09-11 07:30 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Star Wars is NOT sci-fi!
  
  It's fantasy.
  
  That is all.
  
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3. Re:A big stick and a dead horse by dukerobillard · 2004-09-11 07:36 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  He won't be satisfied until Star Wars is the campiest sci-fi series ever put on film.
  Jeez, he should have been happy in 1978, then.
4. Re:A big stick and a dead horse by Planesdragon · 2004-09-11 07:38 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Fantasy is a sub-genere of Sci-fi. It was a reinvention of the dead heroic myth genere in the late 19th century after science fiction writers like Jules Verne (!) proved that the novel-reading audience would read blatantly not-true stories.
  
  Any definition you use for the difference between fantasy and sci-fi can be bent or broken by numerous excellent works, even though each subgenere is distinct into itself.
  
  So, "Science Fiction" has three subgenres:
  
  Fantasy, like LOTR or my own (unpublished) novel. Willing to change basic understandings of the universe and disregard Earth entirely.
  
  Hard Sci Fi, like The Time Machine or Asimov's Robot series. Doesn't change any basic knowledge, but instead introduces a few "future developments" and explores their ramification here on Earth.
  
  Soft Sci Fi, like 2001 or Asimov's foundation series, or Star Trek, which change something basic about reality.
  
  Hmm... yeah, SW is fantasy. But it's still part of Sci-Fi.
5. Re:A big stick and a dead horse by adolfojp · 2004-09-11 07:40 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Sadly, I've got no mod points, so I will post instead.
  
  I agree 100%. Star wars is fantasy. The only diference between SW and Lord of The Rings type of movies is the background. One is technological and the other is not. Considering that this background is in another galaxy in another time frame it doesn't imply any future technology, but a mere definition of its alien background and status quo.
  
  There is no science behind star wars light sabers, ships, force (except the midiclorian mistake) or anything else in the universe. It is the analogy to magic swords, horses, unicorns, olifants and whaterer mechanical doomsday devices you might want to add.
  
  Just because it has blinking lights doesn't make it sci fi.
  
  Cheers,
  
  Adolfo
6. Re:A big stick and a dead horse by JudgeFurious · 2004-09-11 08:27 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  I can say only one thing about the viability of three more "sequels" following these "prequels" and that is they would have to be absolutely incredible films to even have a chance to pull the franchise up to even ground level.
  
  If you look at them in their intended sequence then you've got (And I don't care how good he makes Ep3) a very childish and frankly not very good story starting with Ep1 progressing to what the majority of people consider to be "the good ones" in Eps 4, 5, and 6. Of course Jedi wasn't up to Empire and really that's where things started getting pretty silly with those furry little previews of the abortion to come but we mostly tend to just lump those three movies together and call them "good" while we look at the prequels and call them (rightfully so) "lousy".
  
  So if there ever were to be a trilogy of sequels then they'd have to be far more adult targeted in nature to even have a chance and they'd have to be the coolest friggin Star Wars movies ever to clean the taste of "Phantom Menace" out of our mouths. They would need to grow up and be serious (probably overly serious) and in effect age with thier audience to make most Star Wars fans happy. Then when the whole nine were viewed in order the story would get better and more serious as it moved along.
  
  I don't see Lucas being capable of doing it. No way can he miracle up the ability to churn out three great pictures now. He is what he is, just a guy who had one really great idea, an excellent techician of film, a great editor, and a crummy director who's managed to pull a few pictures off.
  
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7. Re:A big stick and a dead horse by Planesdragon · 2004-09-11 09:26 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  So LOTR is science fiction too? Right, because there is so much science there?
  
  Actually, there is. LOTR was in many ways a speculative exposition to backup the myriad of languages and linguistic shifts that Tolkein devised.
  
  There's easily as much science behind LOTR as there is behind, oh, 2001 or Issac Assimov's Robot series. It's just not technological science, so it has a clearly different feel.
  
  (and to be really anal, it fits science's "if X, then Y, right?" mold very well.)
8. Re:A big stick and a dead horse by Oligonicella · 2004-09-11 12:52 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  "Fantasy is a sub-genere of Sci-fi. It was a reinvention of the dead heroic myth genere in the late 19th century after science fiction writers like Jules Verne (!) proved that the novel-reading audience would read blatantly not-true stories."
  
  Oh, really? Then E.A.Poe (1809-1849) wasn't writing fantasy? Gulliver's Travels (1675) isn't fantasy?
  
  Ummm, bullshit.
I know... by dfn5 · 2004-09-11 07:03 · Score: 4, Insightful

I don't know if I should be happy or scared
Be afraid. Be very afraid.

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A Bink's Tale by Ch3schir3 · 2004-09-11 07:06 · Score: 5, Insightful

So we watch 4,5,6, and think its about Luke. We watch 1,2,3, and realize that its about Vader. We watch 7,8,9 and maybe we will finally realize it's just about an old man who doesn't know when to let someone else take over.
Money by Viceice · 2004-09-11 07:17 · Score: 3, Insightful

Dispite all the rants, If Episodes 7, 8 and 9 were made, they'd all do well at the box office. So is there any reason why they won't do it?

Good creative shows have been pulled because of money and stereotypical, nonsensical tripe put in replacement all in the name of money.

So whats makes SW diffrent?

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Re:Heh by Masque · 2004-09-11 07:46 · Score: 3, Insightful

It's still a competition for the silver medal, however, after the last two Matrix films set a world record in the 200 Minute Suck.
Re:Ob. Spaceballs Reference by rd_syringe · 2004-09-11 08:53 · Score: 3, Insightful

Anyone else think a new Spaceballs sequel in this day and age would be funny as hell? Imagine all the jabs at Lucas and the prequel trilogy.
The Biggest Threat to Star Wars is.. by darthtrevino · 2004-09-11 09:48 · Score: 3, Insightful

Fanboys. Seriously, just let Lucas do his thing. Every time ANYTHING is posted about Star Wars, all the posts are of the tone: I'm not buying **** until Lucas releases the original originals without Digital anything, straight from the masters!!!
Honestly, let it go. If you want to complain about the pillaging and raping of a franchise, go complain about Star Trek.