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Cleansing Hardware Of Dead Pig Odors?

Chagatai writes "My company is one of America's largest beef and pork producers. Recently I took a trip to see a new computer room that had been built at one of our abbatoirs. While the new environment is nice and sanitary, the old computer room had air intakes that were adjacent to the rendering portion of the plant, and everything smells in an almost unholy way. Management is curious if there are any cleaning agents or means of deodorizing this equipment before moving it into the nice, new office. The only products I could find would clean the outside of the hardware, but the internals would still possess the lovely aroma of boiled dead pig parts. Of course, this is a race against time, as I am sure someone will inevitably squirt Pine-Sol into the system to try to make things better. Does anyone have any recommendations to remove the effluvium of post-mortem porcine matter from our machines?"

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  1. Not pigs, but cigarettes by mixy1plik · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Now, I can't comment on the stench of dead pig- but I can talk about my experience with a stench-infected computer.

    Back in the early 90s, my dad bought me My First Computer. It was an Macintosh IIcx which was a big, beige rectangle box. Had neat stuff like NuBus and about 12 SIMM slots. I lived in Europe at the time, and the computer was purchased from a graphic design house where *EVERYONE* chain-smoked at their desks. The machine had the most disgusting tar-like filth on *EVERYTHING* inside the chassis. The upstairs of my house reeked of cigarettes.

    I literally chipped away tar, vacuumed it, put Bounce sheets over the power supply fan, to no avail. The machine still sits in my closet to this day, and having given it my best efforts over 10 years ago- it still smells of stale cigarettes.

    Because of the small nooks and openings in your average computer, I honestly don't think you'll be able to do much about the smell. Unless there are some new commercial/industrial agents that can do the job, you might be SOL. Guess it's time for 3M to create a solvent version of Fluorinert.

    1. Re:Not pigs, but cigarettes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      For organics (blood, fat) your best bet is an enzyme detergent (e.g. http://www.deconlabs.com/skincare/enzyte.htm). That will deal with anything on the surface. You'll then have to wash the computer down with alcohol (just a bottle of the spray cleaner) near any sockets/connectors or the water and residue left over will cause problems.

      Chances are that not much has actually penetrated the plastics. If it has, then use a shellac based sealer (e.g. http://www.zinsser.com/product_detail.asp?ProductI D=10). That will contain any volatiles and save you from having to replace the plastics. Obviously you can't shellac the entire thing, but doing the main panels will help.

      You'll probably have to replace the fans -- the lubricating oil holds the smells and there isn't much you can do about it, except to try and flush it away with more oil.

      Beyond that... you could try adding a charcoal filter to the cooling system to deal with the remaining odours, but I've never done it.

    2. Re:Not pigs, but cigarettes by joe83 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Open up the cases, seal the room and run an ozone generator for 24 hours. Ozone generators can get rid of any odor permanently.

    3. Re:Not pigs, but cigarettes by flushtwice · · Score: 5, Informative
      Someone needs to mod this one up. It's non-destructive to the electronic components, and does indeed destroy odors.

      Just remember to seal off the area during the process, and ventilate it well before re-entering as pure ozone can be just as deadly as carbon monoxide.

  2. One word: Ebay by Brento · · Score: 5, Funny

    You're missing a prime chance to pull a real stunt.

    One word: Ebay.

    Put it all up for auction simultaneously, and watch the fun as people get their newly won purchases. I'd love to read that feedback. "Great PowerEdge, but I've never had computer equipment smell unholy before." And then, watch mass psychology at work as people read each other's feedback from the same vendor and start to put two and two together.

    The only thing funnier would be to work at Paypal and hear people squirm as they try to justify asking for a refund. "You gotta believe me, this disk array smells bad. Really bad. Like dead meat bad."

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    1. Re:One word: Ebay by abb3w · · Score: 5, Funny
      You're also missing the prime opportunity to get your ass sued into the poorhouse

      They'd have to be a really good lawyer to get pain and suffering damage from that, but you might have to refund the sales price & shipping both ways and pay the lawyer... unless the judge rules the "DOA" guarantee makes you liable for the death of the buyer on opening the package. =)

      Still, it's a fun ad to imagine writing... "Used dual 3.0 Xeon server 8 GB RAM Gigabit ethernet; removed from industrial environment. Works fine. No visible damage. Still, head of our IT department insists this machine stinks, so we're upgrading." (It would help if your IT department head is a Mac enthusiast.)

      Make sure to save a copy of the ad for your court date. "But your honor, the machine is exactly as described...." "Exhibit A, your honor, the machine in question." "Dear GOD, get that thing out of my courtroom!"

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  3. To suggest this is almost criminally stupid by captnitro · · Score: 5, Informative

    This has worked for me many times before, and I can vouch for it, but the obvious disclaimer is that there are a number of reasons why it's a bad idea, as I'm sure any replies to the post will inevitably explain. But it's worked for me before.

    Power down all your machines and unplug them. Set up adequate ventilation (I use several cheap desk fans). Wipe down your hardware with rubbing alcohol using a lint-free cloth or a few old t-shirts; don't worry about your own, buy a big bag of them at Goodwill.

    When you get tired of that, or you pass out from the fumes, just pour it in. Yes, I'm serious, you'll want to trickle it over the green hardware and get everything generally soaking. (Not the power supply or hard drive, just PCBs and the like. This is already a dumbass idea, so you don't want to be much more stupid about it.) Then leave, otherwise you'll probably pass out.

    I discovered this trick while given the task of cleaning a friend's laptop. He smokes, a lot, and had quit and didn't want the smell. He also had sticky keys from God knows what, so I honestly just said "fuck it" and turned the laptop on its side, open, and poured rubbing alcohol into the ports, taking care not to let it get near the screen, which rubbing alcohol can damage. Using a lot of it allows the liquid to remove dust as it flows by. The excess flowed out the other side and into a few paper towels.

    Rubbing alcohol is a great solvent and evaporates quickly, so the ventilation is more for the computers, not you. Make sure the insides are aired out before powering up, or you may find yourself battling a quick-burning alcohol fire.

    Have fun!

    1. Re:To suggest this is almost criminally stupid by savagedome · · Score: 5, Funny

      He also had sticky keys from God knows what

      Hmmmm...

      *scratches chin*

    2. Re:To suggest this is almost criminally stupid by mjphil · · Score: 5, Informative

      Avoid rubbing alcohol at all costs! Some bottles contain glycerine, which won't evaporate.

      Look for bottles labeled "99% Isopropyl alcohol", it's the pure stuff.

      I shouldn't need to mention it here, but will anyway:

      Dont't drink this stuff, it's pure poison!

    3. Re:To suggest this is almost criminally stupid by shbazjinkens · · Score: 5, Informative

      Alcohol disolves in water, where did you get the idea that it floats? What do you think the other 70% is in 30% isopropyl alcohol?

      Seriously.. read up on stills.

    4. Re:To suggest this is almost criminally stupid by arose · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wouldn't it be 99% poison?

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  4. Steam cleaning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative


    This is one of the best ways to remove stuff down to the molecular level, and involves no chemicals.

    It truly is "the hot setup" ( pun intended ).

    Google "vapor cleaning" for more info.

  5. Amazing by ryants · · Score: 5, Funny
    You have a link to the dictionary's entry for "abattoir" and still managed to spell it wrong in the summary.

    Bravo.

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    1. Re:Amazing by cbrocious · · Score: 5, Funny

      You must be new... you actually clicked a link in an article. Oh wait, you're supposed to click it and not read it... that's the key.

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    2. Re:Amazing by ryants · · Score: 5, Funny
      You must be new... you actually clicked a link in an article. Oh wait, you're supposed to click it and not read it... that's the key.
      No, I'm a Slashdot veteran. I just mouse-overed the link, looked at the status bar, and hit "Reply" as fast as I could.

      Clicking links? Please...

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  6. Febreze!! by Deep+Fried+Geekboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Febreze is the key.

    It really works on dead things.

    I got this tip from a ratcatcher called Sid, who cleaned out a dead raccoon from our crawl space. It worked.

    I just used it to nullify the odour of a deer mouse that crawled into my truck's AC and helpfully died.

    Go Febreze!

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    1. Re:Febreze!! by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've seen the commercials. The drugs in that stuff keep people opening their closets for another snort until they faint and fall over.

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  7. Rendered with Pride by Stanistani · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you can't come up with a solution, I suggest donating the equipment to PETA...

  8. ozone by l79327 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A commercial ozone generator should work. I've used them on used cars owned by sweaty curry eating smokers, and it works great. The car smells like a meadow after a thunder storm after treatment.

    1. Re:ozone by Martix · · Score: 5, Informative

      O3 will eat and destroy plasics and is 1000% stronger then clorine for a disinfectent...I work with water treatment and it eats and destroys certin plastics and metals Not a good choce for this espesaly electronics.

  9. A real render farm by thellamaman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gives new meaning to the phrase Render Farm, now doesn't it?

  10. How about CHANGING the smell? by wernst · · Score: 5, Funny
    I was chuckling over this story to myself when my wife asked what was so funny, and she suggested "Why not bring it to a skunk farm?

    Why not indeed.

  11. Finally... by Prowl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A question whose answer cannot be found by googling.

    Truly a worthy "Ask Slashdot".

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  12. Ultrasonic Cleaning by chris+mazuc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I work for Servpro, so sadly, cleaning is something that I know how to do fairly well. Your best bet would probably be to do some research into ultrasonic cleaners. It might be cheaper to buy the equipment yourself depending on how much stuff you need cleaned. Protein odors are pretty hard to get rid of though, definitely one of the worst.

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  13. WARNING: Ozone is a _very_ bad idea by hirschma · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ozone eats certain rubber parts in your computer.

    A friend of mine was having CD-ROM drives die every two or three _months_. Seems that his consumer ionizer was putting out enough ozone to eat the belts away. He stopped using the ionizer, and the problem went away.

    My guess is that ozone would also kill off hard drive gasket seals and even certain types of insulation material.

    Bad idea. Don't go here.

  14. Re:Mythbusters by Jardine · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They got a professional crew in, guys that clean out ambulances, crime scenes, etc. The car still reeked at the end of the show, and wound up getting sold for the engine & transmission.

    Just a clarification. The professionals gave them some tips and some training on how to clean a vehicle but the professionals weren't the ones cleaning the car. The boss of the professional cleaning company mostly seemed to stand fairly far back, say that he's smelled worse smells, and chuckle at the Mythbusters. The hosts of the show later said that the professional guy said that his crew would take a few days taking the thing apart and cleaning every crevice, then put it back together. I got the feeling that this would not be cheap to do.

  15. Removing odiferous organics from computers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The few times I've had to "disinfect" computers and other electronics with "creative" fragrances, I've used pure (reagant grade) ethyl alcohol [in a well ventilated and grounded work space] with solvent resistant gloves, an ultrasonic bath of coating safe electronics cleaner, tupperware dishes and miscellaneous hand tools (brushes, ball peen hammer, cold chisels, etc).. Ball peen hammers are very useful for removing encrustations and cooked on stuff.. You don't wanna know. Trust me.

    If you can replace the cases, do so. If not, dissasemble, remove power supplies, remove encrustations, and wash with bleach and hot water, then surgical soap and water.

    Standard floppy drives are replaceable. Too much of a hassle to clean.

    Harddrives are basically going to have to be removed, wiped with alcohol wipes, and then wiped down with some odor-neutralizing spray. Replace the drives after you get complete backups if any have errors.

    Powersupplies, if not replaceable, should be discharged (those caps can kill), blown out with compressed air, and then wiped down with alcohol wipes.

    CRT Monitors are going to be a bitch to clean. Replace if you can. If you can't replace, discharge all the capacitors, coils and the tube. Blow out with compressed air. Wipe down any sealed board level components and sealed surfaces with alcohol wipes. Don't get anything on any coils. Allow everything to air for 24 hrs before reassembly.

    LCD monitors should be disassembled, their cases washed with alcohol. Spritz down the electronics with coating-safe board cleaner. Use monitor-wipes on the LCD itself.

    Cables can either washed by hand, in a dishwasher (NOT HOT WATER! Max temp about 80F) or replaced. Replacement is easier.

    Keyboards, if replacements are not available, should have all batteries removed, large encrustatios removed by hand (use gloves!), blown out with compressed air, and be run through a dishwasher, again with no hot water, or washed with large amounts of alcohol. Allow to drain for at least 24 hrs (alcohol) or 48 hrs (water) under a fan before reusing.

    Boards: Remove any major encrustations of hardened tiss.. err.. organic matter by shaking, scraping, or chiseling. Soak in ethyl alcohol to loosen clotted material (in my case, literally.. again, don't ask) enough to brush/wipe most of it off. Immerse in electronics cleaner in ultrasonic bath on low. Board comes looking almost brand new. Allow to dry under a fan for several ours. Test, and reinstall.

    Replace all fans and filters if possible (easier than cleaning the damn things). Reassemble. Before closing the case, hang a couple of those pine-tree shaped air fresheners in the case.

    There are also a lot of forensic clean-up information websites out there.. Google is your friend. Hope this helps..

  16. Ozone by danieleran · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My dad ran a business cleaning up after floods, fire damage and crime scenes (mostly suicides). Some things smell bad. Some require vomiting (like rotten meat). Some are just unpleasant but linger (like the acrid smoke smell from a fire).

    Things you can't clean by washing can be put in a tent with an ozone (O3) generator. Ozone is what you smell after a lightning storm: the clean rain smell. Concentrated, it smells sort of like bleach, but sharper.

    It's both toxic and cleaning because (as I recall) Ozone happily oxidizes anything it contacts, preferring to be regular O2 + a free radical oxygen atom. The free Oxygen can bond with a molecule of stank and modify it to something less stanky, or it can, say, attach to a molecule in a cell wall and kill the cell.

    It's like an efficiently burning fire in slow motion. I think oxidation is part of what makes your skin age; as you age, the damage created by environmental oxidation is repaired less and less by your body, until you just wither away. That's the idea behind taking certain vitamins that are supposed to block the damaging effects of free radicals in your body.

    Of course, when you have something that stinks, you'd prefer it be destroyed by oxidation.

    Unfortunately, plastics are among the hardest things to clean because they can absorb odors and its very hard to suck the stink back out. Stink isn't just something on the surface you can wipe off in most cases.

    Spraying perfume just adds a new smell on top, which might not outlast the stink itself. I think Fabreze is a corn based chemical that works along the same principle as ozone. However, it leaves a residue on hard surfaces; it's designed for fabrics.

    Sometimes when you have, say, a guy who dies alone in a house and his body fluids drain through the floor, or, in a moment of anguish, someone decides to end it all using a shotgun, you have a situation where you just need to throw things away.

    Gnarly.