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378 Terabytes Of Star Wars on 600 G5s

Mrbill points to this USA Today story on the digital makeover given to the original Star Wars trilogy, noting that the digitized films have also been converted to HD for later release as high-definition DVDs.

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  1. Great! by Fnkmaster · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can now watch your childhood dreams get stomped on ... in HIGH DEFINITION!

    1. Re:Great! by kfg · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Now I have become a corporation, the very thing I was against." - George Lucas

      He's gone over to the dark side.

      KFG

    2. Re:Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Does that mean in a few years his son will come back to kill him and he'll see the light and finally release the originals?

  2. Ah by iamdrscience · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course. Release the DVDs now. Special edition DVDs next year. Limited Edition DVDs the year after that. Then redo the whole cycle again on high definition DVDs, making it so that people have to buy the trilogy six times, spending a couple hundred bucks.

    Well, at least they're not releasing them both individually and as a set with different special features. That would double the number of times it will be released.

    ...I really hope George Lucas wasn't inspired by my above comment.

    1. Re:Ah by jeffkjo1 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Of course. Release the DVDs now. Special edition DVDs next year. Limited Edition DVDs the year after that. Then redo the whole cycle again on high definition DVDs, making it so that people have to buy the trilogy six times, spending a couple hundred bucks.

      Star Wars HD: The Search For More Money.

    2. Re:Ah by The+Bender · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "...people have to buy the trilogy six times..."

      Really?

      As far as I know, nobody is being forced to buy it even once.

    3. Re:Ah by Gondola · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've downloaded the laserdisc rips you refer to, or at least, "some laserdisc version of the original Star Wars trilogy ripped from laserdisc and available online through various p2p applications." Disclaimer done.

      Anyway, the version I looked at was pretty crappy; it was blurry like I would expect a VHS version to be.

      I'd rather see a couple apocryphal scenes (obligatory reference to Han vs. Greedo) than look at grainy 200-lines-of-resolution rips.

      Seriously, at this stage of my life, I understand the nostalgia, and I'll gladly trade 480p and surround sound for the price of Han vs. Greedo and the other additions of questionable worth. I *want* the cleaned up special effects transparencies, and I don't mind a little cleaning up here and there, although I would prefer the original soundtrack, not any substituted audio or music.

      On another topic, at the risk of being shouted down by hordes of fanboys, the original Star Wars is overrated. It was a great trilogy (I was disappointed by Jedi, but it was Completion to the series, and I am a forgiving person), but there was something more behind it that caused all of us kids growing up seeing the movies to become fans like we did: marketing.

      The marketing juggernaut behind Star Wars is what got the hundreds of action figures and model sets, fast food cups and posters and toys, t-shirts, towels, lunchboxes, watches, cookie jars, etc. etc. into our homes.

      I would argue that the toys themselves are what kept Star Wars alive much longer had there been a mediocre marketing campaign behind it. When the movie was out of the theater (after an amazingly long run IIRC), we still had our action figures and toy sets to put them in. Personally, I had several friends with Star Wars figures, and we would pool our Star Wars toy resources and set up bases and enact elaborate battle scenes, scenes from the movies, and scenes we would create on our own. We still had the posters, the magazines, the watches, the lunchboxes (I had the original metal Star Wars lunch box, but the last time I saw it (about 15 years ago) it had already rusted up pretty badly.) the bedsheets, etc., etc., to remind us and keep Star Wars close in our thoughts.

      This indoctrination of a whole generation in the Star Wars mythos created the best ongoing Star Wars marketing; fans who had SW so ingrained in their life that their favorite philosopher wasn't Socrates or Plato; philosophy and wisdom meant Yoda. Kids (mostly kids, some weird adults) who saw these movies as they were growing up, took Star Wars almost as a replacement for religion or oral tradition, or as a replacement for every Mother Goose story their parents never read them because they were too busy working overtime because they were single parents, or because dad was an emotional cripple as a result of his dad being an emotional cripple.

      I'm sure if some interested college psych major wanted to, he could interview hundreds of 30-something children who gravitated to Star Wars and come up with a great dissertation subject about marketing and the psychological effects on young children who become overdoctrinated with commercialized fictional characters.

  3. Special Edition Questions... by IanDanforth · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Can someone in the know please answer these questions?

    1. When the much hated special editions were released, were the originals digitized and altered then reprinted?

    2. Is the stock that this company used the original, originals? Meaning that when lucas got the cleaned-up digitized versions he had to go back and redo all the SE stuff?

    finally

    3. Does this give hope to the idea there might someday be a Highdefinition original cut version of the films?

    Thanks in advance!

    1. Re:Special Edition Questions... by bottlerocket · · Score: 5, Informative
      1. Yes. Lucas wasn't on his digital projection kick yet.
      2. Well, the articles claim that they are the original prints. They describe how they've been sitting in storage for more than twenty years. But if they are the originals, that does raise the question of whether all the new special effects had to be reinserted.
      3. Original cut, no. Those are dead and gone and will never be released again. But HD-DVDs of the Special Editions? Oh, you betcha.
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  4. Speaking of degredation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Scratches and loss of color is not the only degredation to SW that seems to have developed over time. A copy I watched recently seemed to have developed small cute computer animated characters that detracted from the development of suspense in the film..

  5. Now.. by Laimbrane · · Score: 5, Funny

    If they could only digitally remaster Lucas to restore him to his original 1970's form. I'd pay 70 bucks for that.

  6. Oho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    So that's how Lucas intends to discourage piracy.

    I have to hand it to him; Between not having enough space and bandwidth, and not wanting to see how he's butchered Star Wars this time, I don't think I would bother trying to share the 378TB of video.

    I tip my pirate hat to you. Arr.

  7. Re:Raiders of the Lost Arch by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Go for it George Lucas. Ruin all of your movies. "

    Empire Strikes back, despite being 'special', is still entertaining.

    Though I agree with the sentiment, we've been around this block a million times. Don't buy it. Let the people who do enjoy it. In the mean time, let's talk about something a little more up-beat:

    - Lots of people were employed to work on this.
    - The technology and experience will help ILM make better effects for upcoming movies.

    - SW in HD will hopefully make broad adoption of higher-resolution DVD players an easier transition.

    - Just the number '378 Terabytes' is enough to cause underwear tents to rise all over the Slashdot population.

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  8. High Def of Low Def by airider · · Score: 5, Informative

    So the question I've been dying to find out from all the high def zealots out there is... does making a high definition recording of something originally recorded in some other definition (in this case celluloid) going to look "better"? It's been my experience dealing with image processing of "analog" imagery that the higher up in resolution you go, the more "anomolies" can be detected...i.e. there is only so much you can do with the original baseline, and going up in resolution requires huge amounts of post processing to clean up those anomolies. AAANNND the final product is still limited by the originals. So even if we get more lines of resolution from the celluloid, the celluloid is still the limit on how good you can go. So will high def DVD STAR WARS look better than standard DVD STAR WARS. Probably, but not any better than the original and not THAT much better than standard DVD. I think the movie industry (and music too) have lost the fact that we aren't clamoring for higer resolutions of our recorded media, we just want ones that don't wear out. That's why I think SACD and DVD-A haven't taken off.

  9. I wonder... by Johnny+Fusion · · Score: 5, Funny

    I bet if the restoration was done on a beowulf cluster of old amigas running Linux, everyone would start saying Greedo shooting first was the best thing that ever happened to the trilogy...

    (Holy Karma-Risk Batman!)

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  10. The HD Master Being Kept in Storage... by Class+Act+Dynamo · · Score: 5, Funny

    virtually guaranteeing that the Hans/Greedo controversy will continue. At this rate, soon Hans will not have even shot Greedo. It will turn out that due to a high fat diet and sedentary life-style befitting a rich assasin, Greedo's arteries were clogged full of cholesterol. Hans didn't shoot Greedo, he was dead before he hit the table!!

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  11. The saga on /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    Quick summary of posts to follow:

    1) Lucas is a money-grubbing third-rate director.
    2) Can they wipe out Jar-Jar?
    3) Jar-Jar is not in these episodes, you moron.
    4) Who you calling a moron? Lucas is a money-grubbing moron.
    5) Why are they doing it on Macs when it is cheaper to do it on Linux?
    6) No, it's not. Look at Virginia Tech.
    7) Teh MACS suck.
    8) Nope, you idiot, M$ sucks.
    9) You are all idiots, Lucas sucks.

    Nothing else to see here. Move along now.

  12. Re:Finally by The+Lynxpro · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Its nice to see that we're finally getting the original 3 films on DVD... it does piss me off a bit that Lucas seems to do everything he can to ear a few more bucks... first we'll redo them and release them in to different VHS boxed sets. Wait a few years, now we'll do them on DVD. Wait a few years, now we'll release the HD versions."

    You know what? I'm sick of listening to people bitch about George Lucas bilking the fan-base with multiple releases. Its not like George is up at Skywalker Ranch snorting his wealth up his nose like most of Hollywood. The man spends his money on making the "film" process better. Look at what ILM has done for films since 1977. How about THX sound? Yeah, thank George Lucas for that. He'll also be one of the reasons why movies will eventually been shown at the theatres in digital form. At such time, it won't matter if you go to the theatre on opening night or two weeks later, the "film" will look the same. No "cigarette burns," vertical strip lines, or any other glaring issues with the projection will you ever deal with again.

    Now compare that to say, MGM, with multiple releases of the James Bond series. Are they getting any better? Not really. Where's the MGM profits going to? Bankrolling sequels to "Legally Blonde"? Yeah, Lucas really bilks us cinema fans alright.

    Go back to bitching about Greedo shooting first. At least that's a valid criticism.

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  13. Re:Restore again? by falcon5768 · · Score: 5, Informative
    if you compair the images there are numerous touch ups...

    Jabba looks MUCH better in the first one

    the image is cleaned up even more

    the rotoscoping effects on the lightsabers are cleaned up and made to look like the current sabers

    now Han and Geedo shoot at the same time

    biggest change, now its Hayden as Anikan at the end ghost scene

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  14. Re:Links! by hype7 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Star Wars, terrabytes, and lots of G5s, all posted on /.

    the porn sites are going to have a bad day today

    -- james

  15. Re:Restore again? by advocate_one · · Score: 5, Interesting

    every time they make editorial/artistic changes they get to reset the copyright clock. Mere cleaning up wouldn't have let them do this.

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  16. It's the search for more money. by sgant · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I mean, doesn't anyone else here see what Lucas is doing? He's not stomping on your childhood dreams...it's pure marketing genius. Remeber back when Coke said it was changing the recipe for Coca-Cola? Their sales went through the roof for the ORIGINAL coke!

    He's releasing the "Special Editions" now. He'll make the money off of them...let them stay out there for like a year or two. THEN it will be get the entire box set of Episodes 1-6 that will set you back like $150...let that stay out there a few years until they don't sell anymore.

    Then around 6 years from now or so, the Original 3 movies with no changes at all...the ones that were released starting back in 1977 will be a box set. There's certainly a market for this now and everyone that's bitching and moaning will snatch it up!

    Lucas won't be laughing all the way to the bank btw...he'll just install a bank at Skywalker Ranch and be done with it.

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