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Aural Heaven -- iPod And Analog

Ant writes This Wired News article says there is aural magic in the combination of the very old with the very new: iPod through an old radio or tube-driven amplifier gives it a special warmth and atmosphere. '50-year-old Takeyuki Ishii insists the antique equipment creates an atmosphere that has been forgotten. The softer tones ease listeners and make them feel warm and relaxed.'"

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  1. Comfort tubes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "The softer tones ease listeners and make them feel warm and relaxed."

    Considering the heat put out. That's not an unexpected result. Throw in a big meal.

    1. Re:Comfort tubes. by Negatyfus · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, when I put on Butchered at Birth by Cannibal Corpse I get this warm and fluffy feeling, it's great. These old amps make it sound so much more relaxing.

    2. Re:Comfort tubes. by Lurker · · Score: 2, Funny
      My mistake, I thought you were doing tests to see if there was an actual difference, not whether you might be a highly suggestible person. If you want to do unscientific tests, and then conclude that preamps with blue front panels sound better than preamps with red ones, feel free... My chums and I have double blind tested audiophile power & speaker cords vs "normal" ones...none of us could hear any difference. ALthough we are a small statistical universe, we are tempted to conclude, there is no difference...

      Sssssshhhhh . . . keep your scientific reasoning down please, I'm trying to hear a snowflake land on my shoulder . . .

  2. What a coincidence... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... I just finished watching a _movie_ entitled Aural Heaven.

    Movie's tagline: If you're bored with the rear, try it in the ear.

  3. Warmth? by Cyclone_TBW · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought that was my Powerbook? :-)

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  4. What's next? by Scud · · Score: 4, Funny

    iTubes?

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  5. Uhmmm by Kn0xy · · Score: 1, Funny

    "The softer tones ease listeners and make them feel warm and relaxed."

    So, one can safely assume Mr. Ishii is not a fan of like say Slipknot?

    1. Re:Uhmmm by mister_tim · · Score: 1, Funny

      So, one can safely assume Mr. Ishii is not a fan of like say Slipknot?

      Likewise, we can assume that you are a fan of like say tautology.

  6. Photoshop your favourite mix of old and new... by ites · · Score: 4, Funny

    - Victorian telephone (wireless version)
    - Mac G5 embedded in an IBM S/36 case (to give that authentic Computer feel)
    - email, delivered by the postman
    - the LowCost cruise liner ($25 across the Atlantic)
    - not rose-coloured glasses, but B&W glasses... gives you that good ol' monochrome feeling
    - the e-Quill, looks like a quill, writes like a quill, drops ink like a quill, but runs Windows XP for Quills
    - the iQuill (similar, but stores 150 hours of music)
    - ye old Coffee Shoppe: double espresso machiatto served in antique copper cups, by surly wenches

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    1. Re:Photoshop your favourite mix of old and new... by Kiryat+Malachi · · Score: 2, Funny

      There is *nothing* wrong with surly wenches.

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    2. Re:Photoshop your favourite mix of old and new... by Tim · · Score: 1, Funny

      indeed. that's mostly what you find serving coffee in seattle....

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  7. Sure. by sserendipity · · Score: 5, Funny

    So you are saying that an mp3 on an ipod played via FM out of my old dad's radio sounds better than the ipod on it's own. Or maybe you are just trying to sell old radios?

  8. Look out IBM! by michaeldot · · Score: 3, Funny

    At the rate IBM is currently (not) making PowerPC 970 processors, Apple may just have to switch to tubes to power their machines.

    (Don't think it'll be a good quarter for us shareholders, though the sharemarket yet doesn't seem to have noticed Apple can't supply a G5 Dual 2.5 / iMac / XServe for love or money.)

  9. I know this website that specializes by bryan1945 · · Score: 1, Funny

    in oral heaven. It's called....
    oh, _aural_ heaven. Nope, don't know anything about that.

    Except that CDs sound better when coated with a green highlighter. :)

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  10. Re:And since he believes it... by tktk · · Score: 1, Funny
    I had old college friends just like him. Back when DAT recorders first came out, I had two friends who were the 1st to buy them. Then they bought vaccuum tubes and other bits to make a pre-amp for the DAT. At least, I was told it was a pre-amp. I could never hear a difference and these guys knew just enough to build a pre-amp but not enough to tell if it was working right.

    So hook up was to DAT -> pre-amp -> giant head-enclosing headphones. The DAT player was about the size of a harddrive and had to be kept in their backpack. The pre-amp was size of a thick, hardcover book and had to be held since the volume control was there. And these guys walked all over campus with this setup.

    I always tried to avoid them whenever they were listening to music. Which wasn't hard since I only had to stay out of visual range.

  11. Re:And since he believes it... by tftp · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hope none of your sales/marketing people overheard this conversation, otherwise you'd be fired in no time...

  12. Re:And since he believes it... by clem.dickey · · Score: 4, Funny

    Vacuum tubes do give a warmer sound. As, to a lesser extent, do the pink and gold mini-iPods.

  13. Re:Do you really need real tubes? by tftp · · Score: 4, Funny

    You can do the same change to the sound if you feed it through an old shoebox that has "Vacuum Tubes" written on it with a Sharpie marker. Just don't tell the listener that there is nothing in the box :-)

  14. Re:And since he believes it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think James Randi http://www.randi.org/ is also skeptical of 'golden-eared' audio nuts. In fact, he has a million dollar prize for anyone who can tell the difference in sound quality between super expensive speaker wires and cheap crap from the hardware store.

  15. Re:And since he believes it... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 4, Funny

    And BTW, did you know that you can improve the sound of your mp3s by running the files through gzip/gunzip? However bzip2 seems to make the sound worse, probably because it compresses more.

    And always keep your files on prime number tracks of your hard disk (i.e. track 2, track 3, track 5, track 7 etc.) to get the best sound!

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  16. Old news by poptones · · Score: 4, Funny
    I been doing this for years. If you REALLY want to do it up right you can't use these cheapass rf modulators, tho. It appears he has yet to discover the wideband beauty that is AM when properly fed from an old tube modulator stage.

    Seriously. Listen to some Myles Davis or Gatemouth Brown through an old RCA tabletop being fed a signal from an old single ended AM modulator/exciter stage (ie "three tube transmitter"). It's been so long that AM has been out of favor very few realize nowdays how very good it can sound with "honest" frequency response up into the top octave... if you have a decent AM radio.

  17. audio quality versus fidelity by tod_miller · · Score: 1, Funny

    both can be subjective.

    special warmth and atmosphere ....translating....
    fuzzy noise, crackles and scratchings

    I just had an image of an ipod with built in turntable and mini 3" high resolution records :-)

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  18. Oh GREAT! by Dread_ed · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cue the audiophile wars.

    The only thing worse than an Apple/Linux vs. MS zealot discussion (a good thing IMHO) is an audiophile thread. They make beligerent Microsoft hating uber-geeks look like mongoloids when they start going at it. I swear, if audiophiles were allowed to talk in person, someone would lose an arm over whether ultra high sample rate digital is better than analog, or whether vacuum tubes should be used in amplifiers or whatever...damn, I have already read too much.

    Please...Spare me oh great /. editors.

    Sometimes I think that they throw certain stories up on the site on purpose, just to get a rise out of some people and and to get everyone else to come and watch the train wreck.

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    1. Re:Oh GREAT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "Sometimes I think that they throw certain stories up on the site on purpose, just to get a rise out of some people and and to get everyone else to come and watch the train wreck."

      Sometimes?!

  19. This sounds like a great idea! by deft · · Score: 3, Funny

    If someone could play some tunes through their Ipod on an old radio, record it for me, and send over the MP3's, that would be awesome!

    Thanks in advance!

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  20. Re:And since he believes it... by severoon · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yea...that doesn't even make sense. They ought to be doing earplug tests.

    Eh? Eh? Am I right or what people?

    Eh?

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  21. all-tube computers are better too. by turborat · · Score: 2, Funny

    analog baby.

    1. Re:all-tube computers are better too. by Squapper · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...gives you softer calculations that makes you feel warm and relaxed...

  22. Emotion? by burnttoy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah... like my tube preamp really appeals to my soft, fluffy, feminine side and empathised with me when my dog got run over by my ex-girlfriend... my solid state amp merely told me to get on with life or hang myself. There's no "emotion" in either of these things just different filtering characteristics... SSSHHHEEESSSHH!!!

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  23. Re:And since he believes it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Have a group of 100 people listen to something played on tubes then on modern equipment.

    It's been done before. All 100 of them agreed that Britney Spears can't sing.

  24. carrying this to the extreme, one might by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    one might come close to nirvana by howing to ones self or banging on a hollow log with a stick.

    Personally, I find the sounds which emanate from a well and truly squeezed cat to be the most refreshing.

  25. thank God I'm not an audiophile! by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thank you, God, for giving me ears of clay :)

    • Factory radios sound great
    • Factory speakers sound great
    • $5 headphones from WalMart sound great
    • mp3s sound great - I don't need wav files four times the size of my first copy of Windows (note to self, rip straight to mp3 next time ...)
  26. Why limit yourself to audio warmth? by thenerdgod · · Score: 1, Funny
    Wearing a pair of glasses with some vaseline smeared on them gives the world a nice warm, glowing look. Unfocus your eyes for even greater effect! Wear mittens for a warmer feel to everything you touch!

    There's a whole world of "swapping fidelity for secondary emotional enhancement" we could go for.

  27. Use A Cozy! by blueZhift · · Score: 2, Funny

    I just bundle my iPod in a little cozy for warmth! Take a look here at 3 seconds of fame for my iPod!

  28. Re:Adding to this... by Noginbump · · Score: 3, Funny

    Man, that's an awful lot of trouble to go though just to play "Crazy Train".

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  29. A match made in aural heaven: by magefile · · Score: 2, Funny

    Something old (tubes), something new (iPod), something "borrowed" (music) ... now we just need something blue.

  30. Re:And since he believes it... by R.Caley · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's even better if you draw a line around your iPod with a green marker pen.

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  31. Re:Vinyl sounds noticeably better than CDs, and by GrahamCox · · Score: 2, Funny

    This new-fangled vinyl will never catch on. Wax cylinders are where it's at! They sound so much better... mind you, the original scratch on tinfoil wrapped around a bar was better than anything, but the limited choice of recordings (just "Mary had a little lamb", which gets kinda old after the 200th play) mean that wax is still the way to go for variety AND quality.