Posted by
ryuzaki0
on from the hey-buddy-gotta-file dept.
Kaseijin writes "'We believe that if peer-to-peer flourishes, the Internet flourishes.' Earthlink's Research and Development division has released SIPshare, a prototype file-sharing application based on SIP. The code is available under a BSD-style license."
Earthlink supports P2P!
by
sketerpot
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· Score: 5, Insightful
The most important part is this bit here:
EarthLink believes an open Internet is a good Internet. An open Internet means users have full end-to-end connectivity to say to each other whatever it is they say, be that voice, video, or other data exchanges, without the help of mediating servers in the middle whenever possible. We believe that if peer-to-peer flourishes, the Internet flourishes. SIPshare helps spread the word that SIP is more than a powerful voice over IP enabler --- much more. SIP is a protocol that enables peer-to-peer in a standards-based way.
Re:Earthlink supports P2P!
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DrEldarion
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· Score: 4, Insightful
EarthLink believes an open Internet is a good Internet. An open Internet means users have full end-to-end connectivity to say to each other whatever it is they say, be that voice, video, or other data exchanges, without the help of mediating servers in the middle whenever possible.
Translation: Earthlink likes an open internet - an open internet allows for P2P file sharing and other things that require lots of bandwidth. Oh hey, did we mention that we sell broadband service? It's fast. You'll want that speed for downloading all this data. C'mon, just try it. The first one is free. Yeah, yeah, that's good. You like that, huh? Now, about this contract...
If I recall correctly, ISPs would not be held liable for content traded over P2P networks, recent legal case. But how does this change when the ISP develops a P2P client?
I would think it doesn't. Not anymore than crowbar makers can be liable for breaking and entering.
Then again we've all seen the US court system make mind-bending leaps of illogic so I guess anything's possible.
-- Just wait till some crappy band steals your nic.
It should read
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Ignignot
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· Score: 5, Insightful
"We believe that if people keep needing more bandwidth, Earthlink will flourish." Earthlink is an ISP, and this is entirely for their own benefit. If more people are using file sharing, then they need more bandwidth to do it. If everyone buys more bandwidth, then the value of the internet is much greater (because it is proportional to connectedness). Then Earthlink gets more money. so you might even say:
1 - Release new P2P program
2 - Everyone needs more bandwidth
3 - People buy more bandwidth
4 - Profit!!!
5 - Internet flourishes kind of or something.
-- I submitted this story last night, and it didn't get posted.
Re:It should read
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GodHead
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· Score: 4, Insightful
1 - Release new P2P program
That should read "release proof of concept that wont work for 90% of users". It's a tech demo. It's not like there's some shortage of p2p apps anyway.
I think the bit that's missing is why SIP-based p2p would be better than other p2p apps. Someone care to explain that?
-- Just wait till some crappy band steals your nic.
Only a proof of concept...
by
garcia
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· Score: 4, Insightful
Will EarthLink SIPshare work behind NAT?
No. All messaging, including the file transfer protocol, are based on UDP. If you want to extend EarthLink SIPshare by incorporating something like STUN for NAT traversal, by all means do so.
Obviously this wasn't originally intended for anything other than the proof of concept as a large group of users interested in P2P would be using some form of NAT. If anything it may be dangerous (if it became popular) because users would DMZ or disconnect from their router to put their machines straight to the net to use this application.
Re:and to think...
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alatesystems
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· Score: 5, Insightful
Don't be fooled. They'll turn over your name and address as soon as the RIAA comes with their subpoena.
At least RoadRunner is nice enough to tell you where they're scanning from so that you can block them. Thanks iptables:)
Chris
We Are Visionaries!
by
underpar
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· Score: 5, Funny
"Finally, EarthLink SIPshare is NOT a supported EarthLink product. It is more than anything else a manifestation of an idea."
Trouble us not with your lame questions! We are busy making the internet flourish!
I'll "induce" a moral conflict: Earthlink is often accused of directly supporting the Church of Scientology. In fact, Sky Dayton, the man responsible for Earthlink, is a devout Scientologist.
Why they did this.
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Sheepdot
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· Score: 4, Interesting
For those of you scratching your heads for a reason to implement this over SIP when established protocols exist out there, here's what you were looking for:
Companies and universities use packet-shaping to stop and block P2P from taking up too much bandwidth. They wouldn't dare touch the data over SIP though, their bosses would kill them if the conference calls ever died.
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EarthLink believes an open Internet is a good Internet. An open Internet means users have full end-to-end connectivity to say to each other whatever it is they say, be that voice, video, or other data exchanges, without the help of mediating servers in the middle whenever possible. We believe that if peer-to-peer flourishes, the Internet flourishes. SIPshare helps spread the word that SIP is more than a powerful voice over IP enabler --- much more. SIP is a protocol that enables peer-to-peer in a standards-based way.
If I recall correctly, ISPs would not be held liable for content traded over P2P networks, recent legal case. But how does this change when the ISP develops a P2P client?
"We believe that if people keep needing more bandwidth, Earthlink will flourish." Earthlink is an ISP, and this is entirely for their own benefit. If more people are using file sharing, then they need more bandwidth to do it. If everyone buys more bandwidth, then the value of the internet is much greater (because it is proportional to connectedness). Then Earthlink gets more money. so you might even say:
1 - Release new P2P program
2 - Everyone needs more bandwidth
3 - People buy more bandwidth
4 - Profit!!!
5 - Internet flourishes kind of or something.
I submitted this story last night, and it didn't get posted.
Will EarthLink SIPshare work behind NAT?
No. All messaging, including the file transfer protocol, are based on UDP. If you want to extend EarthLink SIPshare by incorporating something like STUN for NAT traversal, by all means do so.
Obviously this wasn't originally intended for anything other than the proof of concept as a large group of users interested in P2P would be using some form of NAT. If anything it may be dangerous (if it became popular) because users would DMZ or disconnect from their router to put their machines straight to the net to use this application.
Don't be fooled. They'll turn over your name and address as soon as the RIAA comes with their subpoena.
:)
At least RoadRunner is nice enough to tell you where they're scanning from so that you can block them. Thanks iptables
Chris
"Finally, EarthLink SIPshare is NOT a supported EarthLink product. It is more than anything else a manifestation of an idea."
Trouble us not with your lame questions! We are busy making the internet flourish!
I'll "induce" a moral conflict: Earthlink is often accused of directly supporting the Church of Scientology. In fact, Sky Dayton, the man responsible for Earthlink, is a devout Scientologist.
Do you like German cars?
For those of you scratching your heads for a reason to implement this over SIP when established protocols exist out there, here's what you were looking for:
Companies and universities use packet-shaping to stop and block P2P from taking up too much bandwidth. They wouldn't dare touch the data over SIP though, their bosses would kill them if the conference calls ever died.