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LG Flatron 2320A 23" LCD Media Station Reviewed
Julio writes "TechSpot has taken an in-depth look at LG's Flatron 2320A 23" LCD, you should know however that calling this a monitor would be an understatement, this is a multi-media workstation. The package consists of a 23" widescreen LCD color monitor, and a multi-media station that lets you connect its beautiful flat screen to your PC and a number of devices at the same time (X-Box, etc.). Feel yourself warned though, luxury does come at a cost."
The review sucked and is not worth reading. This guy is obviously trying to just make money off of advertising to a slashdot-sized audience. Do a whois on techspot.com..
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You would think the guy would be smarter than to choose the handle "Julio" before pulling this.
it's an awesome monitor. some people will buy it.
having moved to brazil, the perspective for everything changed.
i see from here a vast need for lower costing, not higher featured, everything.
YMMV, my 2 cents, etc
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True, but the one thing I see here is the 60Hz refresh... isn't that a little high for most normal LCD monitors? A friend bought an LCD and he's a big gamer. He really regrets his purchase... its just not good for gaming since they're not as "fast" as a good old CRT. Isn't this true for most (all?) LCDs? Or am I just out to lunch?
You can get a 20" dell 2100FP that has 4 inputs with one button switching between them(1 DVI, 1 VGA, 1 s-video and 1 composite) AND it supports PIP. Seems like a better price/performance ratio to me. Though that thing that Julio is pimping is widescreen, still doesnt seem worth it.
1.) imagine a bewolf cluster of these...
2.) mmmm life sized porn
3.) Generally the problem is that the TV signal is not worth watching.
4.2)Slashdot : Commercials for nerds, it's money that matters.
8. Yes, I should probably learn to count.
2.) Gamers, what about reviewers of *ahem* adult entertainment material?
Laugh, your boss is behind you...
It's not the refresh rate, it's the pixel response time. Some LCDs are really bad for gaming (look at older laptops for good examples), while some are great. Look for ones with a rating of 20ms or lower and you should not see any blurring.
;)
Btw, most LCDs do run at "60Hz", but not every pixel needs to be toggled every cycle, so it's not exactly the best way to measure them. Other than ms, I'm not sure what they use now. Maybe we should have some sort of "number of pixel changes per second per pixel" or something.
you can get a 20' mac screen
or a 17' screen with a complete G5 included...
http://store.apple.com/
Seems like a better deal to me
Having moved to Africa the perspective for everything changed
Unlike Brazil where you could use a normal monitor that already costs less than $50 the lack of desk space in Africa makes a sub $10 LCD a necessity
Um, yeah, you did.
LG is the OEM manufacturer for Apple's LCD displays, so this is the same as the 23 inch cinema display, just check the specs.
Agree with the other comments that the review isn't worth reading.
I certainly believe that at this price point, LG is going to make an excellent display. They are a reputable company.
However, the reviewer has no clue what he's talking about.
He's obviously never used an LCD panel before, as all he compares the monitor to is 'his old crt'. He notes that colors seem a bit faded compared to a CRT, which IMO, is simply the result of using the wrong ICC profile, though I will agree that the gamma / color range of an LCD panel is often not as good as that of a CRT (especially a high-end CRT, though those will cost you about as much as this beast would)
That being said, it's cool, I like it, and if I were looking for the world's most expensive 23" TV and could actually afford it, I'd buy it. From the review, it looked like you could hook 3 PCs + a number of AV components to it. It's a nice substitute for a KVM for people like me who use a mac, but keep a PC hooked up for the few programs I run that aren't Mac-native.
Still.... it's expensive... a point he doesn't really cover in the review. But, yes, I also believe that this product is probably the best in its class just by looking at the feature list.
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Laptops have affordable 125 and 150 dpi screens now too. 125dpi has been available for two years now, 150dpi was just released a couple months now.
The only desktop displays above 100dpi are IBM's and Viewsonic's 200dpi displays (I kid you not, 23" 4:3 displays with 4k x 3k pixels) running for over $6000 now.
Unfortunately, the current limitation with a lot of software is that they don't scale with DPI so well, you increase the font size to compensate for the resolution increase, and the text doesn't fit boxes so well. I'd like to see a display that is as crisp as a laser printout, I figure 300dpi is a pretty good target.
For 3 inches less you can get one with a computer inside, and you save ~$500: iMac
I suggest you read Slashdot
http://www.apple.com/displays/specs.html
Exact same lcd panel in a much cooler case for a few hundred less.
I think it's about time for anyone with a link in their sig to a pyramid scheme to get modded down without mercy.
apple cinematic 23" $1,999
Sony 23" LCD $2,429
BTW: the resolution (1920x1200) is enough for HDTV.
I'm using the Apple 23" to type this. The real estate is great, but I miss the viewing angle of a CRT - viewing angle begins to matter when the display is that wide.
....did this POS qualify for an article? I've seen more informative, less self-serving tripe lining the cat litter pan. I've submitted better to /. only to have it rejected and pop up 2 days later when someone else submitted it. Excuse me?
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Well, actually, it seems to be the _old_ 23" Apple Cinema Display, connection-wise (it may use the same LCD panel as the newer one, or not; the two have different specifications). The power/data cable that connects the "media station" to the display is nothing else but the Apple Display Connector - you can see it at the top of the pictures; it looks like a DVI-I connector with six additional pins: two for power (DVI already provides power, just not enough), three for USB, and another (not sure whether Apple's "LED" or "Soft Power" = DVI's "Hot Plug Detect"). Apple's latest displays went back to using DVI directly, with separate USB/FireWire connections.
Pretty cool that LG is reusing the stuff they developed for Apple, though.
The first step in setting up any workstation for any serious work, is informing the window manager of your DPI. In gnome I have done this and if I set a font to be 24pt, it is exactly the same size on screen as it is on the printed page. Just increasing the font size is bad, and not what you want.
For example. I have an IBM Thinkpad with a 14" 1400x1050 screen (set at 104dpi). Most of my fonts are 10pt, and some are 8pt. Now most people would say 8pt is tiny. But that's only because almost noone correctly sets the DPI when switching to something over 72dpi (the usual default).
Almost all apps (except a few poorly written ones) work just fine, rendering text at the same size, just using more pixels. Windows apps should do the same but there might be more exceptions with older apps because of less adherence to standards...
At 108dpi text is very readable (thanks to gorgeous truetype antialiased rendering of Freetype). I even turned off sub-pixel AA because it actually looked better without it. 150dpi would be amazing, and 200... well I can't even imagine.
But what I really want is a standalone, 17", 1600x1200 native resolution LCD Monitor... WHAT IS SO HARD? 15" laptops can do this. The smallest LCD that can run 1600x1200 is 18.1" and costs nearly $1,000. That's a load of crap.
I WANT MY DPI!
... is a 17" LCD with DVI-D and S-Video inputs, and =16 ms response time, for under 600 EUR.
;)
I'm a student and rarely stay more than a year at the same place. I'm considering ditching my PC laptop for a 12" Powerbook + PS2 combo (unless you can find a GTA:SA and a Gran Turismo 4 Mac port), but I've failed to find a suitable monitor for both the PB and the PS2.
What I don't want:
having to carry an extra TV set just for the PS2.
having to bow to the TV licensing fee racket just to play a PS2 game.
having to use a VGA adapter for the PS2 - unless you know one that does not suck.
What I want:
a 17" LCD. Size matters, especially in dorms and when you're moving often.
a decent response time to play.
DVI input.
price tag in the 500-600 EUR range.
I have found LCDs with an S-Video input, but no DVI-D input. And their response times sucked more often than not. Am I stuck to the PC? I bet the first manufacturer to solve this problem would attract a lot of students.
Or do you know about an alternative that I might have missed?