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Your Favorite Political Weblogs?

worm eater would like to know: "As the mainstream media is coming under closer scrutiny from the 'blogosphere,' and is having to actually respond to these journalists in pajamas, I thought I'd ask Slashdot: what are your favorite political blogs? Lately I've been reading Talking Points Memo, a liberal weblog by Joshua Micah Marshall, and a blog by Andrew Sullivan, a conservative writer. Where do you go when you want to see the mainstream media dissected and poked at?"

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  1. Spinsanity - sheds light on the insanity by jhouserizer · · Score: 4, Informative

    Spinsanity is a great site for articles that point out all of the spin from both parties.

    They seem to do a pretty good job of showing the foolishness of both sides - which is refreshing, since IMHO both parties suck bad, and I therefore get very annoyed at sights that are focused on making one party or the other look bad, while ignoring their own parties major issues.

  2. Annenberg FactCheck by linuxwrangler · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't know if it qualifies as a "blog" but I regularly check FactCheck: http://www.factcheck.org/

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    1. Re:Annenberg FactCheck by On+Lawn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah I have to agree, Fact Check is pretty good.

      MensNewsDaily.com collects pretty good commentary from a number of contributers on a number of issues that aren't forefront on the MSM. Their articles are short and poigniant. They have a forum you can discuss the articles in, so I would call that a blog.

      Powerlineblog.com is pretty reasonable for commentary and was one of the big players in Rathergate. INDCJournal might be less reasonable but they have the quickest footwork in the business. They'll be the ones to call the sources, call experts, etc... Footwork that is a lost art in journalism. But their commentary is a bit off-balance and can often trip themselves up.

      Little Green Footballs is often misunderstood, but I like them. They do their job very well. Even better though is Watch which is devoid of the sophmoric commentary.

      But then there is an upper eschelon, which FactCheck belongs to, as does Belmont Club. When Belmont treats an issue, you've got gold.

      But the absolute MOAB of the blogosphere is Bill Whittle. He posts seldomly, and when he does it is incredibly long. But there is no better writer on the Internet that I've found. As it says on his website: If Steven den Best is Spock, he is the Captain Kirk. Seriously there is no finer work on the internet than his "Strength" series, followed closely by "Empire".

      For humor, Scrappleface and CoxandForkum are great. They not only give you the humor but they give you the stories that inspired it.

  3. Fafblog! by silvergoose · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Definitely the fafblog.

    fafblog.blogspot.com

    Anyone else know of it?

  4. DailyKos by sg3000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I like DailyKos.

    politics.slashdot.org is rapidly turning into one of my least favorites because I've noticed that the moderation system is running amuck! Never before have I seen such a split in moderations where a single comment can be rated "informative" and "troll" numerous times in the same story. And many moderators with a chip on their shoulder start using "offtopic" and "overrated" to try to protect their own karma during metamoderation. Here's an example of where it happened to me recently. And it's not just the political posts (though I suspect it happens there most often), but in a Star Wars story. I still can't believe this post got called a "troll"! I'm sure many others can come up with their own examples.

    It seems that there may be too many people moderating these days, and little accountability, a single person doesn't have to have an agenda; you can have a group of likeminded people who want to squelch dissenting opinions pummel a relatively decent post down into the noise of hot grits posts.

    DailyKos has a better system where moderations aren't anonymous, so you can see how people are moderating. Then again, if DailyKos had the same traffic as Slashdot, maybe its moderation system would get corrupted too.

    Maybe the ultimate problem is that people don't respect others' views, or they prize too highly the views of people that they may agree with but use bad logic or specious reasoning. It's probably indicative of the growing polarization in our country. As people start migrating to sandboxes where only likeminded people congregate (which blogs, especially political ones, can lead to), they become less tolerant of opinions that challenge their own.

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    1. Re:DailyKos by Moridineas · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No offense, but your other post that you linked to WAS a troll post, and I'll even be glad to analyze why for you ;)

      sentence #1 It is completely ridiculous to suggest that the press has spent more time investigating Bush than they did giving free press to the lying SBVT group.On the other hand, Bush has gotten a free pass for

      a) Using political connections to get in to the National Guard, when he was far from the best candidate to get in
      b) Not fulfilling his duty once he was in there
      c) Lying about his service and claiming he flew with his unit for years


      a) You assume some political connections were used? What were they? Who alleges this? Did Bush himself do anything? Do Bush's FATHER do anything? Who is to blame for this. Unsubstantiated FUD. Troll.

      b) Not fulfilling his duty...who knows, I'll give you that one.

      c) "Lying about his service and claiming he flew with his unit for years" Show me that he didn't fly? Probable troll.

      Official National Guard records, including those released by the White House, contradict Bush's statements. Others in the National Guard corroborate the fact that Bush did not fulfill his duty. To this day, Bush has been incapable of naming a single person who saw him in Alabama when he was supposed to be training there. Bush claims he signed up for a unit up north (Connecticut, I think), but he never showed up to that at all.

      Guess you haven't been watching the news recently when Staudt and others in the guard and of the guard went on TV. Troll.

      The national media ignored Bush's stint with a champaign unit in the National Guard during Vietnam, with small exceptions, during the 2000 campaign. I know many Bush supporters would like to believe otherwise, but it's fact.

      It hink the bigger point is "who cares at all?" and if anyone cares, is there any evidence to prove it? There is not, as the extremely poorly forged documents of this last month show, most recently. That's how fast the liberla media jumped on this story once they thought they had something they could run with--did no basic fact checking (re, Staudt) and couldn't even realize that the documents were CLEARLY forged on MS Word.

      Then I did a search for "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" and "John Kerry" and "Vietnam" in the past six months. How many hits? 248!

      I'll take this slow for you. How many times did Bush say that he should be president because of his experience in the guard? How many times did Bush campaign on ANYTHING he did in his youth? Never. Quite the contrary, Bush is a man reborn and he was not running on his record of 30 years ago. Kerry on the other hand "Reporting for duty!" (DNC) based his entire campaign on his Vietnam experience and rarely faield to mention Vietnam in his speeches. IT's only natural that he comes under attack for this stance.

      Is Bush's Vietnam record (or lack of it) relevant to today? To some extent, no. The war was more than 30 years ago. But for a president who calls himself the "war president", who insists he was for the Vietnam war, who started an elective war under false pretenses and shifting reasons, and who is dangerously stretching our military resources, it is important to know what that person was doing when it was their time to serve.

      He's a war president because the country went to war, not because he fought in some war 30 years ago. Were Eisenhower or Grant war presidents? No? Roosevelt? Who? Troll. False pretenses? THe pretenses were false only in that the CIA, British intelligence and others dropped the ball. Is there any evidence Bush himself knowingly lied? Troll. And you're absolutely right, it is important to know what did when they were called up to serve--thus the Swift Boat Vets. You can't say it's important and try to suppress them at the same time. Troll yet again.

      Does anyone else find it distasteful when a draft dodger calls into question the medals of a war hero?

      and that is why you were trolling (lies!) ;)

    2. Re:DailyKos by sg3000 · · Score: 5, Informative

      > a) You assume some political connections were used? What
      > were they? Who alleges this? Did Bush himself do anything? Do
      > Bush's FATHER do anything? Who is to blame for this.
      > Unsubstantiated FUD. Troll.

      Ben Barnes, then Lt. Governor of Texas, admitted he got Bush into the National Guard:

      > "I got a young man named George W. Bush into the Texas
      > National Guard when I was lieutenant governor, and I'm not
      > necessarily proud of that. But I did it.

      Bush was son of a then senator and former ambassador. He served in what many called the "champagne" unit in the Texas National Guard. Bush admitted he had no experience to get him into the guard, and he scored in the bottom 25% on the pilots' test. Bush's records admit this.

      > Guess you haven't been watching the news recently when
      > Staudt and others in the guard and of the guard went on TV.

      > That's how fast the liberla media jumped on this story once
      > they thought they had something they could run with

      The questionable documents have done a lot to muddy the waters, but the fact remains that the crux of the question of Bush's service was not dependent on a single document. I agree that CBS News should have fact-checked better. However, it would be nice if the Bush supporters as charged up in determining the authenticity of a now-shown fraudulent document that lead us to war.

      But that doesn't absolve Bush from not finishing his duty, which has been corroborated in ways apart from the documents. For example, in Bush's records, Bush flew only 22 months of the 53 he owed. Salon has more details on the documents that Bush should have filed but did not when he decided to stop flying:

      --Quote--

      > Bush flew for the last time on April 16, 1972. Upon entering
      > the Guard, Bush agreed to fly for 60 months. After his training
      > was complete, he owed 53 months of flying.

      > But he flew for only 22 of those 53 months.

      > Upon being accepted for pilot training, Bush promised to
      > serve with his parent (Texas) Guard unit for five years once he > completed his pilot training.

      > But Bush served as a pilot with his parent unit for just two
      > years.

      > In May 1972 Bush left the Houston Guard base for Alabama.
      > According to Air Force regulations, Bush was supposed to
      > obtain prior authorization before leaving Texas to join a new
      > Guard unit in Alabama.

      > But Bush failed to get the authorization.

      > In requesting a permanent transfer to a nonflying unit in
      > Alabama in 1972, Bush was supposed to sign an
      > acknowledgment that he received relocation counseling.

      > But no such document exists.

      > He was supposed to receive a certification of satisfactory
      > participation from his unit.

      > But Bush did not.

      > On May 26, 1972, Lt. Col. Reese Bricken, commander of the
      > 9921st Air Reserve Squadron at Maxwell Air Force Base in
      > Alabama, informed Bush that a transfer to his nonflying unit
      > would be unsuitable for a fully trained pilot such as he was,
      > and that Bush would not be able to fulfill any of his remaining
      > two years of flight obligation.

      > But Bush pressed on with his transfer request nonetheless.

      > Bush's transfer request to the 9921st was eventually denied by
      > the Air Reserve Personnel Center in Denver, which meant he
      > was still obligated to attend training sessions one weekend a
      > month with his Texas unit in Houston.

      > But Bush failed to attend weekend drills in May, June, July,
      > August and September. He also failed to request permission
      > to make up those days at the time.

      > According to Air Force regulations,

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  5. correction by ltwally · · Score: 3, Informative

    The link to Andrew Sullivan's site isn't right. It should be www.andrewsullivan.com

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  6. Tom Tommorow's by Snagle · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.thismodernworld.com/ good bloggage and good cartoons too

  7. Wonkette by ellem · · Score: 3, Funny

    but I really like dick jokes... so maybe it's just me.

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  8. News Hounds by b3d · · Score: 4, Interesting

    www.newshounds.us
    Their motto is "We watch FOX so you don't have to." They monitor the political slant of FOX News. The people that run this blog are the media monitors from the movie "Outfoxed" by Robert Greenwald.

  9. Buzzmachine.com by Jeff Jarvis by valmont · · Score: 3, Interesting

    BuzzMachine covers many topics from journalism, to every day life, to politics. Jeff started blogging after living through 9/11 first-hand. His political views tend to really be near the center. What I like about his political blogging is that he strives to stay away from the simplistic polarized political rants, and "gotcha" politics that plague so many other blogs i've seen, as well as mainstream media. He recently started spurring very intelligent and useful debate about various specific 2004 election issues. Jeff welcomes disagreement and all forms of thought-provoking debate, which is precisely what he has been yearning for, for years. To me, Jeff Jarvis' blog embodies that the Internet should be all about: less about mudslinging, more about exchange of thoughts. If he ever was to run for President, he'd get my vote.

  10. Re:michaelmoore.com by ltwally · · Score: 4, Funny
    Michael Moore claiming to be in touch with reality...

    ...and who said he doesn't have a sense of humour!

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  11. The Daily Show by RubberChainsaw · · Score: 3, Informative

    "Where do you go when you want to see the mainstream media dissected and poked at?"

    The Daily Show with John Stewart. Its not a blog, its a comedy show on Comedy Central. But it seems to be one of the few places where politicians and the media have their stupid blunders pointed out. Plus its pretty entertaining.

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  12. Re:Drudge Report by Seoulstriker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is the Drudge Report really a blog? I see it more as a "new media" agent who tries to report raw news which major news outlets refuse to report on. Most recently it was Rathergate, but a few years ago it was the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

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  13. Re:Anyplace... by Sean80 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I guess the biggest problem I'd have with the drudge report would be the fact that it has been linked so often to the Republican smear machine.

    Don't get me wrong, I've recently seen the light and realized once again that -all- politicians suck after a brief fling with the belief that the Democrats were On My Side. But, Drudge just seems to be out for a slanderous story, and well, it doesn't even have to be true to generate some traffic now does it?

    Of course, this website is not the only one, nor is it a factor of it being right-leaning (Michael Moore anybody?) but there you go.

  14. Jerry Pournelle by chroma · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The mail section of Jerry Pournelle's website is great. He takes on many topics including computers, technology, and education, not just politics. Yes, it's Jerry Pournelle of Byte's Chaos Manor and SF authordom.

    Web site:
    http://www.jerrypournelle.com/mail/currentm ail.htm l

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  15. Jesus' General Of Course! by manyoso · · Score: 4, Funny

    No self-respecting, heterosexual, republican male, should go without a visit every couple days to General JC Christian, patriot. The general provides a welcome tonic for all the inner frenchmen leaking out of the mainstream press.

  16. "let us think for you" by ChipMonk · · Score: 3, Funny

    Their motto is "We watch FOX so you don't have to."

    The same kind of thinking that just got CBS into deep, deep doodoo.

  17. My favorite political weblog? by Ignorant+Aardvark · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'll have to go with "None".

  18. Re:Drudge Report by BladesP9 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Like what? The New York Times? C... BS? No thanks. Drudge more times than not is nothing more than a page of links that lead you directly to these news items. The things that he breaks himself are usually things that the "source that you consider reputable" won't cover.

    As with anything, be critical of what you read, but Drudge has proven himself right more times than the elite media cares to admit.

  19. blogs to read by mycal · · Score: 3, Informative


    http://www.instapundit.com/ - the king of all blogs
    http://andrewsullivan.com/ - gone way down hill but still readable
    http://www.allahpundit.com/ - good mix of political fun
    http://claytoncramer.com/weblog/blogger.html - guns and fun
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/ - more right slant fun.

    http://www.iraqthemodel.com/ - differnt view inside Iraq
    http://healingiraq.blogspot.com/ - more good insight in iraq
    http://www.iraq-iraqis.blogspot.com/ - and again

    http://cbftw.blogspot.com/ - used to be one of the best blogs in Iraq until the man cracked down on him. But MUST READ THE ARCHIVES!

    mycal

  20. My favorites by TTop · · Score: 4, Informative

    Oh, it's hard to narrow it down to a small list.

    The previously mentioned Talking Points Memo is quite good.

    Also see:

    Washington Monthly (Kevin Drum, formerly of Calpundit)
    Altercation (what liberal media?)
    Daily Howler
    Columbia Journalism Review de-spins the media.
    Juan Cole (very insightful Iraq commentary from this professor of history)
    White House Briefing (political round-up)

  21. Some of my picks: by Masker · · Score: 3, Interesting
    All are liberal, of course.

    1. Ugga Bugga has good charts/info compression and researching.
    2. Wonkette for shear entertainment value. She's great, and she has "scooped" the mainstream press, too.
    3. Majority Report Radio has a blog that can be a good news source.
    4. News Hounds, the anti-Fox. "We watch Fox so you don't have to."
    5. Greg Palast has a very informative and well-researched blog.
    6. Salon's War Room '04 is awesome, even if you have to watch a 30-second ad to read the whole thing. Not really a "blog" per-se, but sort of blog flavored...


    I tend not to read conservative blogs because I like my blood-pressure where it is. And, really, I read enough conservative BS when I read the stories that are run in the normal "liberally biased" press. In their zeal to be "balanced", news outlets feel they need to print a bunch of lies & distortions from the right in order to balance anything not from the right.
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    1. Re:Some of my picks: by russellh · · Score: 3, Informative

      Try Juan Cole's Informed Comment. His September 11 post was brilliant.

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  22. Re:Drudge Report by carcosa30 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Unrelentless?

    You mean he relents?

    Or is this like "Disirregardless?"

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  23. Andrew Sullivan != Conservative, but here are some by Nova+Express · · Score: 5, Insightful
    There was a time when Andrew Sullivan could have conceivably been labeled a conservative, but it's passed. Sullivan's analysis of the war on terror used to be interesting, but since he become a single interest voter over the issue of gay marriage, it's colored the rest of his thinking and writing. These days he's probably best described as an "angry moderate."

    If you really want to read a high-quality conservative blog, here are two from National Review Online:

    • The Corner, a braided-blog with constributions by many of NR's writers, run by Kathryn Jean Lopez, and
    • The Kerry Spot, penned by Jim Geraghty, whichs follows Kerry and his campaign closely, as well as related subjects. (The Kerry Spot was one of the best sites to follow for updates on Rathergate.
    Speaking of Rathergate, a seminal blogsphere watershed that Slashdot has not chosen to feature on its front page, here are some of the key blogs which helped break open the Rathergate story:

    Well, that should get you started. in truth, except for the NR blogs, I was only an occasional readers of the others before the Rathergate story broke, but now I'm much more of a regular reader, much to the detriment of my productivity...

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  24. Instapundit hands down by Syncdata · · Score: 4, Informative

    Instapundit is hands down my go-to political weblog.

    It offers a nice round-up of links from the blogosphere, along with the his own commentary.

    It's run by Glenn Reynolds, a University of Tennessee law professor, and social liberal, everything else conservative.

    The beauty of blogs is that Bias is readily apparent, and seldom denied, unlike oh, say, some cats in the mainream media.

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  25. Re:Drudge Report by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 4, Funny

    That comment was not unmeaningless.

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  26. Re:Drudge Report by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Translation: "He says things which are true but that I do not like."

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  27. Re:Drudge Report by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Translation: "He says things which are true but that I do not like."

    Actually, no. I don't waste my time with his site anymore. I get my news from outside the US, like a mirror I find it's a very revealing reflection of how others view us as well as exploring news topics commonly overlooked on home ground because we tend to be too fascinated with scandal and innuendo to pay attention to what's really happening. Learn to spot high profile political issues as the sucker bait that they really are.

    I'd rather read the Onion than Drudge.

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  28. Re:Drudge Report by cb8100 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I get my news from outside the US

    But then you're getting your news from a bunch of people who have absolutely no idea what's actually going on in the country.

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  29. Re:Drudge Report by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    But then you're getting your news from a bunch of people who have absolutely no idea what's actually going on in the country.

    Really? If you think that, then you must think that Fox News has no idea what is going on in the Middle East.

  30. Re:Andrew Sullivan != Conservative, but here are s by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 4, Informative
    There was a time when Andrew Sullivan could have conceivably been labeled a conservative, but it's passed.

    I disagree. Sullivan does focus heavily on gay rights (goshIwonderwhy,) but he's still very much a 'classic' conservative. While gay rights may be his biggest cause, he continues to make a lot of noise over things like fiscal responsibility, smaller government, keeping government out of private spheres, and accountability. He's decidedly gone out of step with Bush's neoconservatism, but frankly, I'd say that Bush is the one who left conservatism--not Sullivan.

    For example, his current front-page articles include:

    • 18 posts about the Iraq war, from a variety of angles
    • 4 posts about gay rights and marriage
    • 4 posts castigating Dan Rather and the forged memos
    • 2 posts regarding unbecoming political conduct in the GOP
    • a smattering of random stuff

    While it's fair to say that he's big on gay rights, it's disingenuous to dismiss him as single-minded and 'no longer conservative'. Andrew Sullivan is decidedly conservative, even if a lot of other conservatives out there would rather not count him among their numbers...

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  31. Re:Drudge Report by jalefkowit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh, you mean like that "bimbo eruption" he tried to pin on Kerry back in the primaries that turned out to be such a load of hooey he ended up apologizing to the woman he pointed the finger at?

    Yeah, he's a real Beacon of Truth, all right.

  32. You're mistaken, Fox DID say the photo was fake by Nova+Express · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Perhaps it would be better if you actually knew what you were talking about before posting to Slashdot.

    Meanwhile, numerous Fox figures referred to the second photo as fake. On Feb. 17, Mara Liasson referred to "doctored photographs of John Kerry and Jane Fonda." (She said nearly the same phrase on March 11). On Feb. 24, Alan Colmes spoke of "phonied up pictures of Fonda and Kerry together." On March 10, Carl Cameron referred to "doctored photos of Kerry with Jane Fonda on the Internet." Indeed, Brit Hume explicitly told Fox viewers that the first photo was "fake" in a Feb. 23 broadcast


    Merely repeating a lie doesn't make it true. Fox has said several times the photo was false, as did National Review and several other conservative sources.

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  33. Newbies: The major conservative/libertarian blogs by Alaska+Jack · · Score: 4, Informative

    1. Instapundit. Written by a Glenn Reynolds, a libertarian law professor at the University of Tennessee whose expertise is in second amendment issues, technology and communication. Perhaps the most influential and widely read blog.

    2. The Corner. National Review's group weblog. Lots of contributors, who vary widely in tone (after you read it a while you come to recognize who the various authors are, and what points of view they hold). If you're not a conservative, you should check it out -- you won't agree with most of the stuff, but after a while you might learn that the folks on the "other side" aren't a bunch of moronic power-mad nazis: They actually have coherent reasons for believing what they believe, and can ably articulate those views. Understanding their arguments will help you sharpen your own.

    3. The Volokh Conspiracy. A group weblog of libertarian and conservative law professors. The lead conspirator, Eugene Volokh, is a computer programmer-turned UCLA law professor; he is an expert in free speech issues, with some expertise in the second amendment as well. A lot of bloggers could learn from the civil tone of this blog -- i.e., no yelling, taunting or name-calling. Volokh believes writers should try to persuade others, not alienate them with overheated rhetoric.

    Note that Volokh, like Reynolds, is a true libertarian: Conservatives are unlikely to agree with either of them on things like abortion and homosexuality.

    4. Andrew Sullivan. An influential writer for Time, The New Republic and other print outlets. Perhaps the best-known openly gay conservative.

    5. Kausfiles. A moderate-to-conservative Democrat, Mickey Kaus is utterly unsparing (and occasionally downright brutal) in his criticism of liberal excess, fellow democrats and the media. Doesn't write a lot, but is witty and sometimes offers extraordinary insights you won't get anywhere else.

    6. Best of the Web. The Wall Street Journal's blog, written by James Taranto. A once-a-day read, it sums up a lot of current issues from a conservatives' point of view.


    Yes, there are many many many many others. But if the conservative/libertarian blogosphere is like a tree, these are the trunk.

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  34. Re:Kos, WaMo... by On+Lawn · · Score: 3, Insightful


    Kos suffered from a case of "Baghdad-Bobia", a rare condition where their shear willingness to believe blinds them to facts that are evident to everyone else. To the Kos, the CBS forged memos were real and still are. During the debate over typesetting, it was enough to show a typewriter with proportional spacing while everyone else was performing technical analysis on different spacing technologies.

    The Washington Monthy seems alright though. Chomsky suffers from being Chomsky. And no one suffers from it more than him ;) His analysis never raises above the complexity of answering the question, "How are we going to pin this on the USA?" And if it doesn't answer that question he ignores it. Which, unfortunately, means he ignores much of what is going on in the world.

  35. Re:Drudge Report by Izago909 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I get my news from outside the US

    But then you're getting your news from a bunch of people who have absolutely no idea what's actually going on in the country.
    You mean like the average citizen? If half of the population was half way educated on politics and the common talking points, politics wouldn't be in the wretched state it's in right now. Can anyone say, with a straight face, that Kerry and Bush are the best this country has to offer? A person is smart, but people are stupid and easily led. The same qualities that make a successful politician are the same qualities that make a successful con artist, or successful actor, or successful sexual predator, or successful salesman. Do any of these descriptions remind you of local, state, or federal representatives past or present? They should. For all the bitching that goes on here, and around the country, we the people deserve what we get. We elect bad leaders into office; their bad decisions are represented by our bad decisions, and we deserve whatever hell they create.

    For all the shit it's going to create, I will say that the American population is to blame for the terrorist attacks. We twice elected Clinton, who while not completely inept concerning terrorists, did make some bad calls. He decided to strike at training camps at the same time he had to sit in front of congress about Lewinsky. Whether or not his decision was based on that timing is still debated today, but nobody will say that hitting Al-Qaeda training camps was a bad decision. We weren't in the position to send in troops, so missiles and bombs were the only plausible action. The really bad decision was to give up when the press criticized him for trying to deflect attention away from the scandal. Again, the people were to blame for electing the man, and again for criticizing his decision to attack.

    Then we elected Bush, (many will still debate the election itself) who completely ignored all terrorist threats before the attacks, like the now famous memo that he received on August 6, 2001 titled Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US. Here is a scan of the original document. Here we are more than 3 years since that memo was written and the WTC attack; Bin Laden is still free, we're stuck in Iraq with the situation getting worse every day, and a whole new generation of Islamic extremists has even more reasons to hate us. We the people, not the president, have ensured that the vicious circle of hate, fear, and violence continues for another generation.

    We bring it all on ourselves as long as we value charisma over substance.
  36. Re:Drudge Report by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Maybe you shouldn't have only pointed the finger at FOX?

    You missed my point. The poster was questioning why certain slashdotters were using non-US media sources as their primary source of information. The poster said that journalists from non-US countries could not understand the US. From which, one could insinuate that we would be better off only listening to US sources for news on the US.

    Therefore, I pointed out that if we could only use US news media to understand US news, then how could we trust the US media to understand the middle east?

    I did only use Fox as an example, but that was because I was playing on the OPs sig on being part of the "right-wing conspiracy". However, I wasn't picking on Fox. I was picking on the OPs idea that only reporters that are from the US could possibly write good and valid articles on the US.

    In other words, you can't just limit your news sources to domestic (US) news sources. There are good journalists from other countries that do a great job of reporting on the news here in the United States. Just like the fact that there are good journalists here in the US that do a great job of reporting from other spots around the world.

  37. Re:Drudge Report by Moofie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That presupposes that We the People get to make a meaningful choice of our leaders.

    As long as we are choosing between a Republican and a Democrat for every single office, we do not get such a meaningful choice.

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    Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
  38. Re:Drudge Report by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well I don't believe that most people outside of the US are in a good position to understand US politics. The coverage the rest of the world get of the presidential candiates (to take an example) is slim.

    I would argue the exact opposite. People outside the U.S. are far more likely to understand the positions of the presidential candidates (to take an example) than are Americans who are only exposed to media from their own country. The BBC, for example, is one of the most credible sources for American politics. The Canadian papers are good too. In the U.S. the press went downhill after they ditched the Fairness Doctrine. Now the sole objective of news programming is to make money, and you make money by telling people what they want to hear- and by telling them what you want them to hear so that you can make even more money. You can have it all. You can elect whoever you damn well please with no consequences. No matter how arrogant or incompetent he is, the world will still respect you and your country will still be #1 because you don't have to live with your decisions. People love to hear spin marketed as truth, especially if it avoids challenging their beliefs.

    All the world sees of Bush is his speeches on Iraq or from F/911. They rarely get to see him as a human being while he's compaigning or mingling.

    And irrelevant crap like that should influence your vote because...?

    What he says about Iraq (for example) is exactly the sort of thing any voter would rightfully need to hear. Anything else- like how he mingles as a human being, or hunts, or fishes- is noise. Although it's interesting how Americans have become heavily indoctrinated into thinking that they're electing a fishing buddy here. It's what they're told is important. Do a Google News search for "Kerry" and "wind surfing", and you'll see why a proven incompetent like George W. Bush is still even in the race. The entire press minus CBS is gunning for him, and CBS just handed him a free pass on his festering Guard issue.

    These are the people who think they should have a right to vote in the US elections.

    Americans would make a better electoral decision- and probably vote more in line with their own interests to boot- if each one of them were assigned a random foreigner to tell him how to vote. Americans simply don't know what is going on in their own country.

    I spoke to someone just back from the U.K. today at work. According to him, everyone across the political spectrum- practically without exception- is livid about this election. They believe it will affect their lives in the U.K. almost as much as it will affect Americans. But none of them can cast a vote against Bush. And until the campaign started, they had blithely assumed over there that Bush would surely lose the election because of Iraq.