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iMac G5 Porn Roundup

boredMDer writes "Apparently someone who has already recieved their iMac G5 has decided to take it apart. Stupid if only for the fact that he's just voided his warranty." pjcreath writes "Apple has posted official pages listing the components that are 'easy' to install (including the LCD!) and describing how to troubleshoot hardware problems using diagnostic LEDs inside the case. For the very curious, you can download the high-resolution TIFF (10MB) of the iMac's innards from Apple."

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  1. porn roundup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    wtf?

    1. Re:porn roundup by LikelyStory · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For probly the best example of what inspired the "porn" moniker, see http://www.billnoll.com/g5/

      This guy's "photo essay" of his then-new cheesegrater G5 borders on the obsessive. He's a pro photographer, so...

      For the flavor, his opening caption reads:
      "If beauty is only skin deep, nobody told the industrial designers at Apple - the new Power Mac G5 is stunningly gorgeous - both inside and out. I used a Sony DSC-F717, handheld with available light, to capture the metallic textures and elegant curves...."

      Actually, some nice shots!

  2. Pomp and circumstance... by Anubis333 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Although it looks like a great, easy way to pop Linux machines into expensive cars and places with a small form factor for people who can afford to pay extra for things that look pretty, it kind of annoys me sometimes how Apple latches onto ideas that have been around for ages and tries to tout them as 'unique' and 'truly modern'. Read the linked page, it's an 'innovative architecture' that 'dwells in an enchanting display'..

    I mean it's nothing new, they bought Pioneer DVDRs, and called them 'Super Drive's' "Only Apple has the 'Super Drive'", or the "First 64 bit Desktop"...

    I used to be a big fan of Apple, but sometimes they just need to nose down out of the clouds, it looks like a great machine, but it's not too innovative.. Heh, it 'provides hardware transform and lighting (T&L)', as a computer animator/TD this had me on the floor, its been years since I saw people bragging about T&L like it's some rare feature!

    I feel this was pretty straight and to the point, nothing glossed over or biasedly bashed, but for some reason I will still get modded down, Apple fans rule with an iron fist.. :)

  3. Re:Didn't void the warranty by CountBrass · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah I know: it really sucks to have Apple force me to have all that quality when I buy a computer from them.

    If you want to buy a cheap pile of shit: buy a Dell.

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  4. Re:That is fucking cool by System.out.println() · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ok, let's turn the 17-inch iMac into a laptop. First, the thing weighs 18.5 pounds, compared to the already weighty Powerbook G4 at 6.9 pounds. Second, the iMac's weight is entirely in the screen - assuming you'd want to put it on your lap, it would fall over backwards. Third, it would be hideously un-portable as the computer is bigger even than the 17" screen (note the chunk at the bottom). Throw in a battery of some sort and you've got either a 30-minute laptop or a 3-inch, 25 pound machine.

    Yes, that's a 'no'. I want a G5 laptop too, but turning an iMac into one is far from a good idea.

  5. Re:Another limitation by CountBrass · · Score: 1, Insightful

    So stick with your cheap Dell-clone and leave the quality computers the those of that can are a willing to afford them.

    If can afford the quality, and want maximum expandability, then the PowerMac is what you should be looking at. The iMac isn't aimed at people that habitually rip stuff out and put other stuff in its place: never has been. It's aimed at people that want to be able to use a computer.

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  6. Re:Didn't void the warranty by 10Ghz · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Yeah I know: it really sucks to have Apple force me to have all that quality when I buy a computer from them.


    You mean like chipping paint on Titanium Powerbooks, "Windtunnel" PowerMac G4's, logic-board failures on iBooks, failing lid-latches on Powerbooks, cracks on the Cube, overheating 12" PowerBooks etc. etc. etc.

    Apple makes very nice machines, but they are not the Holy Grail of quality.
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  7. Re:Flamebait my ass by CountBrass · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Personally I think you're talking out of your arse.

    Sure some iMacs are probably bought to pretty up a reception area. But most are bought by people who want: A Unix-like with a usable GUI, a computer that just works, a computer that does take hours of frustrating effort just to plug in a standard peripheral, etc etc etc.

    If you don't want to pay for an Apple, fine stick with your Dell. I decided not to have a Porsche Boxster as my company car (yes, I really had that option) I decided to have extra cash and a Ford Focus. But you don't hear me bitching about how a Boxster is overpriced because it has a pretty engine (it has).

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  8. Re:Didn't void the warranty by 10Ghz · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Maybe not, but it's been a long time since you could buy an x86 machine that lasted as long.


    Sure you can. Well, I build my own machines and they last for a long time. And I have seen name-brand machines that are old, and still keep on working.

    It just seems to me that people remember the Macs that last for a long time, but forget the ones that fail sooner. And when it comes to x86, they remember the ones that failed soon, and forget the ones that keep on working after years and years of use.

    I guess it's because of the perception of the two: Macs are the expensive hi-end machines, whereas x86 is the cheap and crappy computer.
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  9. Re:Didn't void the warranty by rogerborn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Halo:

    Actually 99 per cent of all Mac owners will never take off the back cover.

    Is Apple's art wasted on them?

    Nah. Its not art. It just excellent design.

    If you design it correctly, it will always be beautiful, both on the outside and on the inside.

    (Which is why beautiful women are beautiful all over - come to think of it, all women are beautiful)

    !!! Whoops, sorry for that aside there - got sidetracted, or something...

    Anyway, everything you see inside the new G5 iMac is perfectly designed for what it does, including the logo on the heatsink that helps focus where the heat goes.

    It can't help but to look pretty, folks!

    Roger Born
    Columnist,
    mymac.com

  10. Porn. Porn?! by ayeco · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Poor use of the word. How silly. What is this, Fark? Surely you geeks could come up with a better headline / summary.

    Main Entry: pornography
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Greek pornographos, adjective, writing about prostitutes, from pornE prostitute + graphein to write; akin to Greek pernanai to sell, poros journey -- more at FARE, CARVE
    1 : the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement
    2 : material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement
    3 : the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction
    - pornographic /"por-n&-'gra-fik/ adjective
    - pornographically /-fi-k(&-)lE/ adverb

  11. Re:Didn't void the warranty by Slurms · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While reading the parent and your reply I reflected that we have had similar sorts of problems with 100 or so Dell and Gateway laptops that we have at work over the past 2 years.

    Then it occurred to me that the Dells and Gateways are so anonymous and forgetable that people really don't seem to remember the problems.

    The Apple laptops tend to be memorable and more interesting. So I wonder if it is jut that people remember their problems more readily than they do when they have similar sorts of problems with more generic computers?

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  12. Re:Didn't void the warranty by magarity · · Score: 3, Insightful

    but we can tell 90 % of the time weather someone has been in their machine or not

    Umm, this is a logical contradiction. If you can't determine some of the people have opened their computers, it's impossible to say what percent you caught doing it.

    PS - Weather is whether or not it's raining.

  13. Re:Flamebait my ass by Rasta+Prefect · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Sure some iMacs are probably bought to pretty up a reception area. But most are bought by people who want: A Unix-like with a usable GUI, a computer that just works, a computer that does take hours of frustrating effort just to plug in a standard peripheral, etc etc etc.

    As someone who spends a most of his time supporting Macs (College thats all-Mac for faculty and staff) I have to disagree. The majority of Macs are bought by people who have always bought Macs and aren't going to buy anything else, damnit. That said, I'd say that their _new_ market growth is about half techies who like OS X and about half artistically oriented types who like the new look. (Based totally on my personal experience)

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  14. Re:That is fucking cool by atriusofbricia · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Yeah, as much as I hate to admit it, I have to agree. As bad as XP is, it's better then ME. It's a less revolting pile of shite.

    He says from his government mandated Dell XP machine.

    DAMN DELL!!

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  15. warranty, schmarranty... by capsteve · · Score: 3, Insightful

    you all noticed kodawarisan is japanese, and fearlessly, he tore into his brand new imac g5, without a care for the warranty...

    culturally, the japanese have a fetish for "brand new" things (a.k.a. atarashii), so breaking the "seal" on a new product, even if it voids the warranty, is not a threat. the worry is to be embarrassed by having old things, almost counter to american ideology that old/vintage is cool... to the japanese old/vintage is shameful and embarrassing, not to be flaunted at all.

    kodawarisan will probably get new imac in the next 12 months.

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  16. Re:Didn't void the warranty by Baseclass · · Score: 2, Insightful
    PCs don't just go bad, components go bad. The quality of any given PC can be determined by the quality of the components therein.

    Apple has complete quality control of their hardware, whereas with x86 PCs any manufacturer can throw together whatever crap meets their bottom line, throw it all in a 'cool' case, print a bunch of big numbers on the outside of the box and watch the lemmings flock bearing their wallets.

    If you want a quality PC then you need to spend the equivalent you'd spend on a Mac or hand pick each and every component and build your own like I do.

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  17. Re:Didn't void the warranty by badasscat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Apple makes very nice machines, but they are not the Holy Grail of quality.

    Maybe not, but it's been a long time since you could buy an x86 machine that lasted as long.


    When I read this, the little false logic detectors I have installed behind my left inner ear duct went off...

    How do you know how long today's x86 machines will last? And how do you define this, anyway? The period of time before one single component fails? Or the period of time before the system becomes completely unusable?

    How do you measure the actual lifespan of a PC you've just bought? Sure, the QA testers at Dell or HP or whatever do stress tests that are meant to simulate a period of years of normal use, but that doesn't always translate to the real world (as Apple, with all its defects and recalls, should know as well as anyone).

    Right now I am typing on an IBM Thinkpad manufactured in 1999. That's five years, and I've beaten this thing to all hell and back. When, exactly, would you pinpoint as the time after which you could not purchase an x86 that lasted this long? 2001? How would you know yet? 1998? My PC's proved you wrong already, and anyway by implication you're saying that older x86 machines are built better. So your statement just isn't logical.

    Today, every x86 machine I see is flimsy as hell.

    Some are, some aren't. Apple loyalists generally seem to look at the lowest of the low and assume all PC's are built the same way. Thinkpads are tanks, including the new ones, and so are a lot of other PC laptops. I don't know why you'd need a desktop to be a tank but if you really care about a strong case, just buy a Falcon or any number of other brands using Coolermaster cases. One advantage you do usually get with a manufacturer like this is a good power supply, which is almost a universal issue among the major PC makers. But it's not hard to find a well-built desktop PC.

    And since they all use pretty much standard components (just as Apple does), component life shouldn't really be more of an issue with one brand than any other.

    People need to realize that Apple is one maker, and one brand. You can't compare "Macs" to "PCs" in terms of build quality. You can compare Apple to HP or IBM or Dell or Falcon or Alienware or the guy building white box PCs in his shop down the street. When you buy a PC, you're not buying a computer made by every PC manufacturer out there; you're buying a PC made by one manufacturer (albeit out of a lot of different parts from different manufacturers, but this is no different than Apple). Maybe Apple builds better products than some of those makers. But maybe some of those makers build better products than Apple.

    Apple makes some decent hardware but so do a lot of x86 PC manufacturers. No, not all of them, but you don't have to buy from the bad ones.

  18. Stupid? by Cloud+K · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Apparently someone who has already recieved their iMac G5 has decided to take it apart. Stupid if only for the fact that he's just voided his warranty."

    What kind of attitude is that for Slashdot?! The first thing *any* true geek does with a new piece of electronics like that, regardless of warranty or expense, is take the thing apart and take a look around!

    Tsch, kids nowadays. Don't even know they're born!