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AT&T Announces VoIP Program

An anonymous reader writes "DeviceForge reports that AT&T has unveiled a program to foster the 'development, delivery, and adoption' of emerging voice over IP (VoIP) applications, capabilities, and devices. The program, based on proprietary AT&T specifications, is intended to enable 'select vendors' to test applications and equipment against AT&T specs and thereby ensure compatibility with AT&T's evolving VoIP communication services. AT&T has invited industry leaders representing application developers, equipment, device manufacturers, and silicon vendors to participate in the program in order to 'shape and scale' the emerging VoIP market."

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  1. Yeah, Right by christopherfinke · · Score: 4, Insightful
    AT&T has unveiled a program to foster the "development, delivery, and adoption" of emerging voice over IP (VoIP) applications, capabilities, and devices. The program, based on proprietary AT&T specifications...
    If they really wanted to foster "development, delivery, and adoption," they'd use open standards instead of their proprietary specs.
  2. Let's see it by PtM2300 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That's kind of funny. The company I work for works closely with AT&T and provides them with a lot of revenue. In our weekly meeting with our AT&T team today, they told us their VoIP road map is being delayed based on problems they're having with Juniper. So if AT&T wants to speed of the VoIP process, they could get their own plan going before influencing others.

  3. In other words... by jmcmunn · · Score: 4, Insightful


    AT&T have chosen a few people that they know are going to develop things the way they want in order to shape the early market into an AT&T furure?

    I'm sorry but why is this important news? It seems pretty obvious that AT&T would want to get a foot into the door. And I don't really like the idea of AT&T having their proprietary stuff into the framework any more than I like Sony forcing their tech into the next gen of Dvd. We need to get the standards set early, not get 10 companies with 10 ideas.

    Just my opinion.

  4. if you can't beat em, join em by flechette_indigo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Their business model was threatened (by vonage etc) so they're moving over. How much u want to bet that they don't lower their rates?

  5. Dear AT&T, by eSims · · Score: 4, Funny

    **snide intone**
    Do you feel threatened by the competition?

    And well you should...

    Sure, go ahead... try to control VOIP...

    It won't work...

    **/snide intone**
    **angry intone**
    Your days are numbered and I for one am GLAD!

    You ripped off the consumer for far to many years and now your whole industry is facing devastation at the hands of cell phone providers and OSS/paid VOIP providers.

    Good riddance!
    **/angry intone>**

    Yours Truly,

    An EX-customer

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    1. Re:Dear AT&T, by pchan- · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dear Customer,

      You many not realize this, but we are a government sanctioned monopoly. We own all the phones and all the phone lines in this country, including the wiring in your house. You will fall in place and pay for phone service!

      No, wait, what we meant was that we own the entire long distance phone system in the United States.

      Wait, I'm told that we actually don't own anything anymore. Well, we can be cool, like all these other companies. Here, you want VOIP, you got it! We'll create a standard just for you, so you can get the same friendly, reliable service you've come to rely on from AT&T. Our proprietary standards will allow us to control the, uh, quality of your phone service and bring it to the same level or reliability and affordability you've come to expect from our land-lines. We know you have a choice in your telecommunication options, and choice can be confusing. That is why we are doing our best to make everyone out there exactly the same. You know, like the mobile phone industry. Look at how well that turned out.

      Love,
      AT&T*

      * Our corporate logo's resemblence to the Death Star is purely coincidental.

  6. Let me guess by caffeineboy · · Score: 5, Interesting
    It'll be just as great a deal as their landline service...

    • Extra 2.50 for call waiting
    • extra 7.00 for voice mail, plus an extra 2.50 per mailbox and a charge for each message.
    • Extra 2.50 for three way calling
    • Extra charges for caller ID blocking, caller ID blocker blocking, and caller ID blocker blocker blocking.
    • Extra charge for "line backer", which means that they will come to the house and fix the non-premise wiring that is not my freaking problem anyway. Extra charge for touching a phone in the house, and an additional $70 for the service call.
    • And of course, for toggling any of these options on my account, a $10 charge each for "installation".


    GODS I am glad that I don't have to deal with AT&T anymore. Hell, I would take a really crappy VOIP company over AT&T, if only to avoid giving that crappy monopoly a cent more of my money.

    Unless they are also planning to totally change their crappy attitude towards customers and their nickle-and-dime pricing scheme, this won't change a thing. I would love to see POTS go out of business forever.

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  7. Slashthink by Pikhq · · Score: 4, Funny

    #slashthink --debug --article current --att --voip
    Slashthink started!
    VoIP is good. ATT is bad. But them supporting VoIP makes them good. But ATT is bad. But them supporting VoIP makes them good. But ATT is bad. But now they are good. But they're bad! ATT is bad. No, they are good. No they are bad. Good! Bad! Angelic! Demonic! Good! Evil!
    Slashthink allocating more memory. All physical memory allocated.

    slashthink: Segmentation Fault. Core Dumped
    Panic!: Kernel memory overwritten

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  8. Hey AT&T, see that ship on the horizon? by Illserve · · Score: 4, Funny

    The one named VOIP?

    It's sailed.

    Your ticket clearly said 1995.

  9. ISPs already doing it by lawaetf1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    My home ISP, speakeasy, announced the other day that they are offering VOIP. Considering that they also have a no-telco-service-required DSL package, one can pretty much drop off the grid. http://www.speakeasy.net/press/pr/pr092104.php

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  10. Re:I just don't get the allure of VOIP by Em+Ellel · · Score: 5, Informative

    For home users anyway. I still need a phone line for DSL. I still need a phone line for emergency services (VOIP won't work if the rest of the power is out, the regular phone was). I rarely make long distance calls. Maybe it's just not for me?

    A - Cable modems or non-phone based "DSL" (wireless broadband, etc.)

    B - Business uses - especially intersite PBX bridging and off-site extensions

    C - Cheap international

    D - A great deal of POTS service network is running or planning to run VOIP behind the scenes instead of analog connection with SS7 control protocol.

    HTH

    Em

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  11. AT&T Jerks Around Telco Vendors by Blackbird_Highway · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've worked as a design engineer in the telecom equipment field for many years. Time after time, I've seen AT&T jerk around telco equipment makers. They always have some special requirements, that are completely different than all the other carriers. They always promise some huge order, if you'll just spend months developing customized equipment just for them. Then later on, they say "Oh, never mind, we've changed our minds. We don't want that anymore". The first time it happened, I thought it was the company I worked for that somehow screwed up the deal. Then it happened again, then again at a different company. Then I talked to engineers at other companies, and they had all had the same experience! This looks like AT&T just wants to jerk that chain again.

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  12. Hmm. by Earle+Martin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Shape and scale". Is that anything like "embrace and extend"?

  13. VoIP & IP viruses?? by monsterhead78 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Thinking about the latest PC worm thats going crazy around the country today, I was wondering how virus related IP traffic could effect VoIP applications.

    Just recently, I got a VoIP network packet dump from a customer, where there were many non-VoIP protocol packets addressed to a valid local VoIP endpoint, using ports 135 (loc-srv/epmap), 139 (NetBIOS), 53 (DNS), and 445 (SMB). I figured that VoIP traffic generated from this IP address probably triggered some routers or other endpoints to generate queries to this IP address, using these port numbers.

    Another thing that I got wondering about was how I do not limit port numbers that can be used for RTP/RTCP/T.38 VoIP data (not talking signaling here). For an IP endpoint with assigned IP address, any port can be assigned for these purposes. Could this cause problems on public networks?

    In my app, only RTP/RTCP/T38 data should be accepted on any IP/Port combination. Unrecognized packets are forwared to check for errors. The path for these forwarded packets could become a system bottleneck if it's not designed for a high bandwidth, and some filtering must take place.

    In the future, assuming that VoIP gains ground in public networks, doesn't it seem that viruses like todays could exploit any IP network, be it VoIP, Windows XP, whatever?

  14. Been there, done that. by Bilange · · Score: 4, Informative

    Videotron (Quebec's cable provider, owns the whole 24.*.*.* IP range with another cable provider) is supposed to LAUNCH a similar VoIP service in the early 2005, article here.

    We'll see how it works, and if it does well against Bell's telephone monopoly. I hate Bell, ill be happy to switch away from them.

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  15. How Cheap Can It Get? by PtM2300 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think that VoIP will be rolled out even slower than once thought. Our company just renewed long distance contracts with AT&T for just over 2 cents per minute. How much cheaper can you get before the service is free and the carrier falls apart? AT&T is already a pretty sick company, less revenue is _not_ the key to their recovery. All the business people in our company always ask why we're not using VoIP in call centers yet, and the real answer is that we're not even sure it'll be cheaper than PSTN.