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Microsoft To Sell Win XP Starter Edition In Russia

Garabito writes "Cnet reports that Microsoft plans to distribute in Russia the low-cost, stripped-down version of Windows XP, called 'Starter Edition.' This release of Windows is aimed at markets in developing nations, and is known for not allowing more than three applications to run at the same time and not being networking capable. This product will not be available on retail, but will be distributed by OEM vendors in new PCs, at an approximate price of US$36. On a side note, the article also states that the MS tax paid by vendors to Microsoft for Windows XP licenses is $70 or more."

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  1. Why? by dutt · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Why would anyone want to pay 36 USD for an operating system which isn't capable of networking and multitasking past 3 programs?

    Why impose sh*t on people just because they don't have enough cash to pay for a retail Windows XP?

    Please... someone give them a proper OS for free.

    1. Re:Why? by Phroggy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why would anyone want to pay 36 USD for an operating system which isn't capable of networking and multitasking past 3 programs?

      Do you have any idea how many bajillions of people there are who don't have an Internet connection and never run more than one or two apps at a time?

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    2. Re:Why? by user1003 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Please... someone give them a proper OS for free.

      Actually, in Russia pirated software is sold on the streets by disc, i.e. you pay $2 for WinXP professional on one disc while some 6-disc Linux distro costs you $12. So ironically if they want to save money they gotta go with Win. On the other hand, I think the pricing is quite fair like this.

  2. The point? by endemoniada · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What is the point of selling this? If you spend money on this thing, and then want the whole package, won't you have to pay for another WinXP disc at full price? thus paying MORE than if you only bought the standard version?

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  3. Why the Fuck are they doing this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Ok #1:

    Software piracy of full versions runs rampant.

    #2:

    only aviable to OEMS

    #3:

    only 3 programs can run at once.

    #4:

    resolution restricted to 800x600 ...

    Why the hell is MS doing this? Obviously this OS is a complete peice of shit, why would anybody even think about desiring this crippled thing?

    You have free linux that can do 10000x as much, and is cheaper. And you have wholesale pirating of software so that you can get a full version of WinXP for probably only a little bit more then the cost of the media itself.

    The only conclusion I can get is that Win XP SE is designed to keep OEM's buying MS products so that then the market matures and people can afford to pay MS's prices that the infrastructure, thru legal pressure, will be their for MS to shove the software down the throats of the "host" countries.

    It doesn't make sense any other way, places like HP and Gateway only already pay 48 bucks for a full home edition, why else would the extra 12 bucks savings for a crippled version of XP make any difference, or even be intellegent market-wise.

    Maybe it's just a PR crapfest?

    1. Re:Why the Fuck are they doing this? by BigJimSlade · · Score: 3, Insightful
      You have free linux that can do 10000x as much, and is cheaper

      Yeah, that just made me think of Codeweavers CrossOver Office. It is available for about the same amount as this entire operating system and runs on a free OS.

      So...
      • Free, stable operating system
      • Run as many applications as you want
      • Run Windows applications with support from Codeweavers

      or...
      • Crippled OS that can only run 3 apps at a time, limited screen resolution, and no networking


      I know which one I would choose. Or, In Soviet Russia, which one would choose me.
  4. Piracy is legal in Russia? by Landak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If so then, aside from location my hard drives there, I really don't think that M$ has a chance. I mean, Win XP is dire enough, SE even more, and, as the above poster rightly said, who's going to want to use XP SE when they can get the full version from suprnova in a matter of....hours?

    That is, of course, presuming that they even WANT to use windows.....*insert picture of a penguin here*

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  5. Linux "Starter Edition" ? by polyp2000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I know this might sound rather crazy but the beauty of linux is that it would be trivial to create a linux "Starter Edition" equally crippled ? Well, maybe slightly less crippled (so its better). Someone good enough to roll their own distro should do this just to piss Microsoft off...

    Nick ....

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    1. Re:Linux "Starter Edition" ? by Nick+Driver · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It would be even easier to just slap a "Starter Edition" label onto a full version of a distro, and give it away for free, and advertise the fact that our "Starter Version" is NOT crippled at all like theirs is.

  6. Ridiculous by igrp · · Score: 5, Insightful
    According to the CIA World Factbook Russia has a per capita GDP of $8,900. US per capita GDP is $37,800 (all US-$, all figures 2003 est.).

    And this doesn't even take distribution of wealth into account. According to the above mentioned source 25% of Russia's population are below the poverty line. In reality, it's much more (they are notorious for not keeping track of economical data or even just plain making stuff up).

    So you have a small upper class, a small middle class, a huge blue collar working class (with many people out of work) and a lot of people unaccounted for.

    If you're living on $741 a month, do you really spend $36 on a license you essentially don't need (since there's no enforcement in Russia). Also, consider that those $36 are 20% of your monthly income (not of your monthly disposable income).

    I don't really get who the folks at Microsoft think their target audience is. The upper class can afford XP Pro/Home licenses. They've either already purchased those (probably OEM licenses) or simply don't care. Anyone outside that demographic just won't be able to afford a Starter license, even if they wanted to.

  7. Never going to work in Russia by rxmd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is never going to work in Russia. In Moscow, a full version of Windows XP is going to cost you about five dollars. You even get a copy of the license sticker. Also note that "vendor" in Russia often means a guy in a shop on the corner who slaps some components together and sells them, never bothering about OEM licenses for the XP he installs on the boxes.

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  8. Re:The Same Reason I bought an XBOX by BoldAC · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually doesn't all windows software designers other than microsoft lose money on this deal?

    At the same time, piracy is also fairly extensive in Russia. A study released by the Business Software Alliance and IDC in July said 97 percent of the software in Russia is pirated, a figure bested only by China, Vietnam, Ukraine and Indonesia. Critics, however, often assert that BSA figures tend to be on the high side.

    If you are supplying a cheap OS to a large market who are known pirates... Will programmers for that OS not expect more pirating of their software?

    The sad thing about this is Microsoft's goals. If it were to make money from their support services (the red hat model), I could tolerate it. However, this is just to get people "used" to their software. Flood the market with cheap goods and run the rest of the competition out of town.

    Sad.

  9. Re:At $36.... by Tim+C · · Score: 4, Insightful

    it's really not worth it.

    Then don't use it. If you do use it without properly licensing it, then don't complain if someone else does the same to something you produce, or to some piece of GPLed software.

    If you don't respect other people's copyrights, you have no reason to expect others to respect yours, or anyone else's.

  10. Re:Microsoft Tax? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm more than willing to buy a laptop with no OS or just Linux but have quite a hard time to find any vendor willing to sell.

  11. Re:What's the point? by rainer_d · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > With a 92 KB keygen (From China, no less) I can
    > get keys that are so legit they fool Microsoft's
    > extra special little "Anti-Piracy" website and
    > that new "No Piracy" verification you need to go
    > through before downloading that codec pack.

    That's what you get when you outsource code-development to 3rd-world countries.
    Unless you keep your employees imprisoned (<cough>China...</cough>...), the knowledge about your software/product is just going to walk out of the facility....no matter how secure it is.

    But it's long way before execs will learn that, I'm afraid.

    Rainer

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  12. Re:The Same Reason I bought an XBOX by pbranes · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Well, they may lose money initially, but with XP starter edition being so limited, you are almost forced to upgrade to home ed. or prof. ed at some point, which then brings in the moolah. Check out this article http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3554084.stm. Windows XP Starter edition can only run three applications at a time - almost unusable for everyone today.

    No, Microsoft new what they were doing - Starter Edition should be named Demo Edition.

  13. Re:The Same Reason I bought an XBOX by zedenne · · Score: 4, Insightful
    this is a similar strategy to their pricing policy in the education sector. i don't mean the student versions of stuff but the large deals they sign with school districts.

    i remember being horrified a few years ago when my father (now a retired secondary teacher) told me that the county had signed a deal to use windows and office exclusively. he has always been a mac user building stuff for pupils using filmaker pro, claris etc. but had to move to m$office as a result of the deal.

    apart from the rather worrying idea of database theory being taught by getting students to create access databases it shows how indoctrination is and has always been the key to market dominance.

    this is the same argument put forward in the recent film 'supersize me' and has been used by chocolate manufacturers for years.

    and those candy cigarettes we used to get as kids?

  14. Windows XP: Air Gap Edition by EvilAlien · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Don't forget, they are flooding the market with cheap and less capable goods. In other words, people who buy this get what they pay for. Meanwhile, Linux is still free and fully functional.

    This is a good opportunity for $desktoplinuxdistribution to make inroads.

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