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Microsoft To Sell Win XP Starter Edition In Russia
Garabito writes "Cnet reports that Microsoft plans to distribute in Russia the low-cost, stripped-down version of Windows XP, called 'Starter Edition.' This release of Windows is aimed at markets in developing nations, and is known for not allowing more than three applications to run at the same time and not being networking capable. This product will not be available on retail, but will be distributed by OEM vendors in new PCs, at an approximate price of US$36. On a side note, the article also states that the MS tax paid by vendors to Microsoft for Windows XP licenses is $70 or more."
..ahh, why bother.
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Microsoft is going to sell Win XP starter edition.
What did you expect here?
...that's about what the full version is worth.
"Like fire and fusion, government is a dangerous servant and a terrible master."~RAH
Customer rips off Microsoft!
I'd like to see anyone willing to pirate thing thing :)
Why impose sh*t on people just because they don't have enough cash to pay for a retail Windows XP?
Please... someone give them a proper OS for free.
Only runs three applications. Sells at a bargain basement price. Can't network worth crap. So basically: Russia is getting the unsold copies of Windows 95. Kudos to MS for figuring out a way to recycle their backstock rather than dump it in a landfill.
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Being from the former Soviet Union myself, I can attest to the fact that piracy is very rampant, and that this "starter" edition will do little to combat it. People who just want the real thing will have to take five minutes of their time to visit their nearest street vendor and buy the full version for less than $2.
What is the point of selling this? If you spend money on this thing, and then want the whole package, won't you have to pay for another WinXP disc at full price? thus paying MORE than if you only bought the standard version?
Blog -
Ok #1:
Software piracy of full versions runs rampant.
#2:
only aviable to OEMS
#3:
only 3 programs can run at once.
#4:
resolution restricted to 800x600
Why the hell is MS doing this? Obviously this OS is a complete peice of shit, why would anybody even think about desiring this crippled thing?
You have free linux that can do 10000x as much, and is cheaper. And you have wholesale pirating of software so that you can get a full version of WinXP for probably only a little bit more then the cost of the media itself.
The only conclusion I can get is that Win XP SE is designed to keep OEM's buying MS products so that then the market matures and people can afford to pay MS's prices that the infrastructure, thru legal pressure, will be their for MS to shove the software down the throats of the "host" countries.
It doesn't make sense any other way, places like HP and Gateway only already pay 48 bucks for a full home edition, why else would the extra 12 bucks savings for a crippled version of XP make any difference, or even be intellegent market-wise.
Maybe it's just a PR crapfest?
With the current surge of spyware, viruses (don't get into the virii / viruses battle) and other malware, this may be the best feature yet :)
If someone doesn't have the money for a nice computer with a legit copy of WinXP Pro and all the other goodies, they probably don't have the money to run their own home LAN or the RAM/CPU power to run lots of demanding apps at once. I don't see how this is a bad idea. Sure, it's MS being manipulative, but look at it this way - less features means less security holes!
Well, hopefully it does...
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that somebody at Microsoft is getting an award for this idea. It is just the culture of Microsoft that something this stupid is going on.
Marketing Exec One: Let's try selling our stripped-down, crippled version of Windows to stop piracy and stop this "Linux-thingy" in Russia. Nobody there will know the difference
Marketing Exec Two: Brilliant!
One week later in Redmond at a special award ceremony:
Bill Gates: We hereby award this plaque for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Marketing Excellence (apologies to the Simpsons). Marketing Exec One has devised a brilliant plan to stop piracy and the Linux cancer in Russia. Brilliant!
And so life goes on in Redmond.
No trees were harmed in the composition of this; however, numerous electrons were inconvenienced.
If so then, aside from location my hard drives there, I really don't think that M$ has a chance. I mean, Win XP is dire enough, SE even more, and, as the above poster rightly said, who's going to want to use XP SE when they can get the full version from suprnova in a matter of....hours?
That is, of course, presuming that they even WANT to use windows.....*insert picture of a penguin here*
My UID is prime. Is yours?
Do MS really think Russians are going to stop pirating the fully featured version because they get a copy of this crippleware witht their PC?
When you can get a pirate copy of XP pro for next to nothing, your smply going to bring your new PC home, format it and install your full version.
I don't see this cutting piracy at all. In fact, it will probably encourage piracy.
"I realise this is not a very popular opinion but it's the truth, and there for needs to be said" -Bill Hicks
If you don't want to pay for a copy of Windows with your new PC, either buy one without an OS or with Linux pre-installed (there are plenty of people willing to sell you such things), or buy a bare-bones system and/or components and build your own.
Just do me a favour and stop referring to it as a tax, it just makes you look stupid. Income tax is a tax - you earn money, you pay it; you earn money but don't pay it, you're breaking the law. Windows licence fees a tax? Who's going to arrest yo for not paying for something you've not ordered or received?
It's official. Most of you are morons.
I know this might sound rather crazy but the beauty of linux is that it would be trivial to create a linux "Starter Edition" equally crippled ? Well, maybe slightly less crippled (so its better). Someone good enough to roll their own distro should do this just to piss Microsoft off...
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Nick
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And this doesn't even take distribution of wealth into account. According to the above mentioned source 25% of Russia's population are below the poverty line. In reality, it's much more (they are notorious for not keeping track of economical data or even just plain making stuff up).
So you have a small upper class, a small middle class, a huge blue collar working class (with many people out of work) and a lot of people unaccounted for.
If you're living on $741 a month, do you really spend $36 on a license you essentially don't need (since there's no enforcement in Russia). Also, consider that those $36 are 20% of your monthly income (not of your monthly disposable income).
I don't really get who the folks at Microsoft think their target audience is. The upper class can afford XP Pro/Home licenses. They've either already purchased those (probably OEM licenses) or simply don't care. Anyone outside that demographic just won't be able to afford a Starter license, even if they wanted to.
and all this time I thought the cold war was over.
This is never going to work in Russia. In Moscow, a full version of Windows XP is going to cost you about five dollars. You even get a copy of the license sticker. Also note that "vendor" in Russia often means a guy in a shop on the corner who slaps some components together and sells them, never bothering about OEM licenses for the XP he installs on the boxes.
As a state gets corrupt, its laws multiply; the most corrupt states have the most numerous laws. (Tacitus, Annales 3:27)
Avg income is about $200-300/month for a slightly skilled worker (NOT IT), for IT and sales its about $600 and up.
This release of Windows is aimed at markets in developing nations, and is known for not allowing more than three aplications to run at the same time and not being networking capable.
So, with XP's kernel, Microsoft's spyware and a user's app, the user might not have enough resources to launch a virus !
(BTW, with no network, one wonders where he'd get one from)
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Actually doesn't all windows software designers other than microsoft lose money on this deal?
At the same time, piracy is also fairly extensive in Russia. A study released by the Business Software Alliance and IDC in July said 97 percent of the software in Russia is pirated, a figure bested only by China, Vietnam, Ukraine and Indonesia. Critics, however, often assert that BSA figures tend to be on the high side.
If you are supplying a cheap OS to a large market who are known pirates... Will programmers for that OS not expect more pirating of their software?
The sad thing about this is Microsoft's goals. If it were to make money from their support services (the red hat model), I could tolerate it. However, this is just to get people "used" to their software. Flood the market with cheap goods and run the rest of the competition out of town.
Sad.
You can't run more than three applications at once?
So that's
1 - Anti virus
2 - Firewall
3 - Anti spyware
Nice....
Sunday you're Thinking Different, Monday you're a huge tool, paying too much and waiting to think like everyone else.
After years of development, MS finally introduces the first truely secure edition of the Windows XP operating systems. Implementing a feature many security experts believe essential to make XP secure, MS enters the next level of secure computing and brings groundbreaking new security technology to its customers.
An MS spokesperson was quoted as "Our users were not using the network anyways." and "Speculation that this is a step backwards by 15 years are completely groundless.".
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
> This release of Windows ... is not ...networking
> capable.
Hey...how come Russia gets the secure version of XP?
---eludom
> With a 92 KB keygen (From China, no less) I can
> get keys that are so legit they fool Microsoft's
> extra special little "Anti-Piracy" website and
> that new "No Piracy" verification you need to go
> through before downloading that codec pack.
That's what you get when you outsource code-development to 3rd-world countries.
Unless you keep your employees imprisoned (<cough>China...</cough>...), the knowledge about your software/product is just going to walk out of the facility....no matter how secure it is.
But it's long way before execs will learn that, I'm afraid.
Rainer
Windows 2000 - from the guys who brought us edlin
No, Microsoft new what they were doing - Starter Edition should be named Demo Edition.
i remember being horrified a few years ago when my father (now a retired secondary teacher) told me that the county had signed a deal to use windows and office exclusively. he has always been a mac user building stuff for pupils using filmaker pro, claris etc. but had to move to m$office as a result of the deal.
apart from the rather worrying idea of database theory being taught by getting students to create access databases it shows how indoctrination is and has always been the key to market dominance.
this is the same argument put forward in the recent film 'supersize me' and has been used by chocolate manufacturers for years.
and those candy cigarettes we used to get as kids?
This is a good opportunity for $desktoplinuxdistribution to make inroads.
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