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Megatron, Skeletor Announce Political Endorsements
amalthia writes "I never thought much about how say, Gargamel of the Smurfs, or Mumm-Ra of the Thundercats would vote in this year's election...that is, until I saw a
voting guide based on which political parties that superheroes and supervillains would endorse. I'm not sure if I agree that Aquaman would vote Republican, but you might find some of the other picks to be eye-openers."
Yeah, you think you're voting for a cool boombox Megatron is a boombox ?!!! Who is this guy ?!
Uh....right.
FYI, I think I've been more or less convinced that Badnarik is probably the best choice I've seen so far.
Yeah, yeah, I know, he can't win, blah blah blah.
If I'm not going to vote what I think is the RIGHT thing why should I bother voting at all?
Is there anyone here that is voting Bush or Kerry with a clear conscience?
Sorry, offtopic, bleh. I still think Megatron voting for Nader to get Bush elected is um...just dumb.
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Better than any of the current candidates...
Actually, if you RTFA Superman and most of the rest of the superheroes voted Republican.
It's interesting to me how the majority of "heros" are listed as registered Republican and even among the "evil doers" there is no clear Democratic conensus--it's splintered among other "minor" parties.
My mom always said, "Jim, you're 1 in a million." Given the current population, there are 7000 of me. God help us all!
Irony that, 'The Right'(tm) and Christians (I'm one...don't hurt me), usually view the good and evil and Republicans good, liberals and democrats evil.
That explains the Superhero votes, and I *think* the villian votes are trying to make a statement, thus:
Good guys (christians, right wing) are sheep, and are going to vote republican because it's the right thing to do (minus spidey, who has personal issues and apparently wants a governmental handout? WTF?), and the villians are voting replublican because they know 'the truth', which is that Bush is really an EVIL choice.
I would also make note that most villians aren't too bright and wind up being wrong in the end. Just a though.
*I would note that the above statements are the fault of every english literature teacher I've ever had that wants you to read symbolism into something that obviously was never intended to have such depth.
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... They must not be using Frank Miller's 'The Dark Knight Returns' as a reference.
... What would Dark Knight Returns Bats be, anyway? He looks like Chuck Heston, but seems to hate the Government...
Libertarian, maybe?
Is there anyone here that is voting Bush or Kerry with a clear conscience?
/. friends are [planning on] voting for Bush, a few of my /. friends are [planning on] voting for Kerry.
Yep. I'm [planning on] voting for Kerry, a few of my
Irony that, 'The Right'(tm) and Christians (I'm one...don't hurt me), usually view the good and evil and Republicans good, liberals and democrats evil.
So you're saying christian and non-christian alike are grade A stupid. Yeh, I think I can accept that. Thank you for the heads up.
Typical...the only guy I'd trust to tell me how to vote is missing.
Trivia: At the Decepticon rally, they play "You got the touch!" as the balloons fall.
I think they're more likely to play Instruements of Destruction.
"...today consumers have been conditioned to think of beer when they see a bullfrog..."
So you're saying christian and non-christian alike are grade A stupid. Yeh, I think I can accept that. Thank you for the heads up. ;)
/. hate Diebold, yet won't go to the effort of voting unless they can do it from their computer.
:P
We're all pretty stupid when you think about it.
We're voting on something so terribly complex that the vast majority of us voting probably don't fully grasp the magnitude of it. Yet we quibble over stupid things. Most of us don't even bother to vote. The majority of the people here on
And then it would still be iffy.
So...yeah.
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Proudly voting for Kerry!! I voted Libertarian naively in 2000. Bush pissed me off too much with his handling of Iraq to throw my vote away this time. I am glad you are throwing your vote away instead of voting for Bush. It will balance out the throw away Nader votes.
I really don't want to start a flamewar, but...
I don't really understand the logic of voting against someone rather than for someone.
By voting Kerry, you're not voting for Kerry (if I understand you right), but rather you're voting against Bush.
Is that to say you don't care who else wins so far as it isn't Bush? I mean, if we got enough of those, Badnarik would have a chance...
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By voting Kerry, you're not voting for Kerry (if I understand you right), but rather you're voting against Bush.
You probably are correct that I am voting more against Bush. But the logic is simply that Bush has made too many mistakes not to vote for the other viable candidate. I voted Libertarian in 2000 more as a "none of the above" choice. If I knew Bush had intentions of starting a war in Iraq, I would have voted for Gore.
I love Bats, he's my favorite character, but while he's personally conservative in many ways, he's virulently anti-gun. Not a limosine liberal by any means, but not completely conservative, either. From my years of reading him, I'd have to classify him as a reluctant Democrat. He's, in reality, maybe the most independant-minded character in the DC univers (at least among the big boys).
As for the rest...
Superman - He's from Kansas. Compassionate conservative Republican, easy.
Wonder Woman - Another reluctant Democrat. Feminist, but wary of the whining and victimization of the feminist movement.
Spider-Man - Democrat, but not a blazing leftist.
Aquaman - Republican? Hell no. Nader or Green, all the way.
The Hulk - For president? The Hulk doesn't give a flying fuck about anything but being left alone.
X-Men - Liberal Democrats, natch. Persecuted minorities, and all that.
Iron Man - Republican. While he doesn't make weapons for the government anymore, come on, he flies around in armor and has more money than Bill Gates.
Captain America - Reagan Democrat, maybe switch to the GOP; a man that used to love the party of FDR, but felt left behind when the Dems went hard left in the sixties.
On an intersting comics note, there was a big story thread in the DC universe the past couple of years where Lex Luthor was President of the US. Traditionally, comics writers have included the real current Presidents in their storylines. Most comics writers tend to be liberal, so I can't help but think that was their way of saying that we have a REAL Lex Luthor in office with Bush, by equating the current Presidency to evil.
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Yes, much easier to ask a question about the contents of the article than RTFA. The article has 40 words on it with lots of pictures. Do you need the articles to have no words with nothing but pictures?
Okay, well, consider this: instead of Bush/Kerry it's Mussolini/Chirac (hypothetical). You may dislike Chirac but (presumably) Mussolini is just unacceptable. Many people feel like that, about Bush.
>>By voting Kerry, you're not voting for Kerry (if I understand you right), but rather you're voting against Bush.
I didn't notice who you're referring to; some people see Bush as a free-form failure with no end in sight and are willing to "gamble" on someone else. Note: Some people actually like Kerry!
>>Is that to say you don't care who else wins so far as it isn't Bush? I mean, if we got enough of those, Badnarik would have a chance...
How do you figure? The Green party doesn't have the draw the democrats have. Look at what happened in France last election. The liberals all voted their conscience, and ended up with a choice between Chirac (who sucks) and some other guy who was way, way worse. We liberals face a well organized adversary in the republicans. I'd love to see Nader or Badnarik president. But lets face reality; the democrats are the other major party, and even so the race is dead tight. Next election I'd like Nader to run. But I feel that voting for Nader will have as much effect as writing a letter to Bush asking him to "play nice". I don't want to demoralize the independents, but we NEED Bush OUT.
I have written this explanation under the benefit of the doubt that you are a liberal and really honestly wonder what you asked. If you are trolling.... >:)
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"d'Oh!" ~Homer
Bah, voting for Badnarik isn't throwing away my vote, especially where I live. I live in a fucking non state where we evidentally don't even have the right to keep our own laws. Kerry is going to get our 3 electoral votes no matter what, so voting for a major party is worthless compared to supporting a 3rd party.
Just back up one song from the album, and a text file that says "more shit like this". Think of the space you save -Mant
Scared me for a moment. I thought it said Metatron.
Actually, I consider myself quite conservative.
The problem is that the 'conservatives' aren't being conservative right now, and many 'liberals' want to see a return to more conservative behavior. Go fig.
I'm also a big believer in Adam Smith's invisible hand when it comes to the market and economy. Both sides are trying to take more control, when the answer is to let go and let the economy do it's thing. Unfortunately, both sides are doing this because the public is crying out for it, mainly because they don't like what the economy is doing, and don't want change.
Change is the name of the game I'm afraid. It sucks for everyone at some point, but we all have to deal with it and move on.
FYI, blaming the economy on the President is a rather foolhardy thing.
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Yeah... I'm not sure what political agenda you can read from this page, but it doesn't seem like what you said. To sum up, it seems to imply that, with a few exceptions, villians would vote for smaller third-parties for good reasons(?) and the superheros are greedy, rich, racist, and stupid, and would therefore vote Republican.
So, I guess he's trying to support the anti-superhero/anti-smurf platform?
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The Green party doesn't have the draw the democrats have. [...] I'd love to see Nader or Badnarik president. [...] Next election I'd like Nader to run. But I feel that voting for Nader will have as much effect as writing a letter to Bush asking him to "play nice".
Just to clarify, like they do in polls.slashdot.org:
Michael Badnarik: Libertarian Party candidate for president. http://www.badnarik.org/
David Cobb: Green Party candidate for president. http://www.votecobb.org/
Ralph Nader: Rejected by the Green Party because we want to grow the party, not just tilt at windmills. Independent candidate for president, though he did exhume enough of the Reform Party to get on the Florida ballot under their name. http://www.votenader.org/
Of the three, Cobb is the only one (as far as I know) who has the guts to publicly state that Bush must go at any cost, even if it takes away from Cobb's own votes. Here's a good news article from Minnesota that puts Cobb and Nader's differences in context.
Stressed? Me? Of course not. Stress is what a rubber band feels before it breaks, silly.
You're right on about change.
I'm torn between the desire to politely equivocate and the desire to push my party's position. So I'll stop here.
"A witty saying proves nothing." ~Voltaire
"d'Oh!" ~Homer
Must.. get.. facts... straight... arrrg...
"A witty saying proves nothing." ~Voltaire
"d'Oh!" ~Homer
Strategic voting is a tradeoff. It is sacrificing the future, long-term goals of balance and healthy democracy for the immediate goals. Always remember that. I don't care if you vote strategically, but always remember there's a price.
Personally, I'd rather throw my vote away than throw my future away.
Especially right now, when the two people that strategic voting offers you are essentially clones of one another. "Don't blame me, I voted for Kang!"
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Oh look, another wonderful "story" in the politics sections that is, like most of the others recently, meaning drivel from some random person's website. *Sigh*
you lost me when you said:
I'm also a big believer in Adam Smith's invisible hand
show me a free market and i'll prove you a liar.
just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand!
A bit petty to make me a foe for something like this, isn't it? I was simply attempting to clarify. Sheesh.
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Yes, much easier to ask a question about the contents of the article than RTFA. The article has 40 words on it with lots of pictures. Do you need the articles to have no words with nothing but pictures?
Will those pictures require any reading?
I think I get the magnitude of this election. Your president will either be wearing red (rebpulican) or blue (democrat) while he fucks you in the ass. Either way, we all lose in this election. The Republican and Democratic parties have converged to such a degree that it is frightening to contemplate its signifigance for the future of our democracy. When you really think about it, we already lack a real choice in leadership because neither candidate is independent enough to resist the will of his party, so basically you are voting for a party, not a man. So, you either take your governmental screw with red or blue. People are perceiving this lack of choice, whether conciously or not, and it is reflected in wide-scale voter apathy.
It's not true what they tell, your vote does not matter! Especially if you do not live in one of the "contested states" and you are not one of the "target constituencies."
We have met the enemy, and he is us! I personally will prefer the blue this year.
I'm one of those- I'd give Badnarik a 50-50 chance based on recent polls of gaining my vote (I don't want Bush to win, regardless, and I want Badnarik more than Kerry, but I'm in Oregon where things are so polarized that what color the state is depends on what city you polled).
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Erm ... does referencing Mussolini in an obvious attempt to avoid Godwin's law invoke Godwin's law?
That's more libertarian, isn't it? And I agree with you, although I prefer the Democrats to the GOP. That's the problem with liberal/conservative - we need two dimensions (left/right economically, libertarian/authoritarian socially).