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AMD 2500+ Socket A CPUs Compared
SuperPuppy writes "Hardcoreware.net has
rounded up
three 2500+ Socket A processors from AMD. An AthlonXP, based on the Barton core
(this particular one predates the locked multipliers we've been seeing lately),
a Mobile Athlon, based on the Barton SOI, and the new Sempron, which is based
on the Tbred core. Each processor differs in clock frequency and cache size, but most
importantly, the Mobile Athlon takes up a LOT less juice than either of the
other two, and is therefore a remarkable performer in terms of overclocking. The
Sempron was quite disappointing on all fronts but price."
In general, The need for new CPU's has stagnated in the last year or so. What can't you do with a 2.4Ghz HT Intel CPU? The "bleeding edge" isn't as far ahead as it used to be. What do you guys think will be the next revolution in the CPU (or GPU, for that matter) market?
..but does it still double up as a comfy portable heater for you, like its predecessors?!
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The Barton 2500+ is probably the best chip that AMD have ever released. It was cheap, it performed well, and it was an overclocker's dream. It's not at all uncommon to find many people who have a 2500+ and have overclocked it to 3200+ speeds with nothing more than a stock cooler, without crashing.
The Semprons, however, are rather lacklustre, and I'm nto sure why they released them for the Socket A platform... the XP's are the same price and perform better. The only Sempron anyone would be remotely interested in is the Socket 754 Sempron 3000+, which gves the same performance as an Athlon 64 2800+, but without the 64bit compatability (i.e. no Windows XP 64 edition).
The Mobile Barton is basically the cream of the crop in terms of Bartons. They take the chips that will run the highest speeds on the lowest voltages, and sell them as Mobiles. Of course you can buy one, put it in a desktop PC, and they will often overclock massively--most 2500+s easily hit 2.5Ghz and will often reach 2.6-2.8Ghz... on pretty standard air cooling! The only problem with this is getting RAM that will run that fast... in which case two 256MB sticks of BH-5 running at 2-2-2-5 are your best bet :).
or perhaps our wives' strong grip on our wallets
;)
I get the feeling that this isn't the case for most readers of that site
On my Windows PC I still have an Athlon XP 1600+ I bought in late 2001. I don't have a big budget, but I'd like to make some upgrades; go from 512 MB of RAM to 1 GB, add a 200 GB HDD, DVD burner, little by little. Of course, I have a Socket A motherboard (ASUS AV266-E) and I'm interested in upgrading the CPU without replacing the mobo. Is the upgrade from a 1600+ to a 2500+ worth the extra money, or should I wait and get a new motherboard with an Athlon 64 when I have the money? I'm sure I'm not the only one with an early Socket A CPU wanting to upgrade.
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Ken.
old review.. from 13/09.. not new?
So what was going to be a relatively easy summary has now become a little bit more convoluted thanks to the extreme overclocking ability of the Mobile Athlon chip.
Basically in short we can conclude the following.
- If you're looking to run at straight out of the box stock speeds, then going for the Athlon XP 2500+ should be a no brainer. The XP either beats or almost matches the Mobile chip in every benchmark and can be had at a lower price
- If however you're a tweaker, a freaker, a mad cookie eater, then by all means spend that extra four bones that is burning a hole in your pocket and pick up a Mobile Athlon chip (and as you can see above, we found it for the exact same price as the standard Barton). Even if by some chance you get a dud in the overclocking department you'll still have a chip that can easily run at stock XP speeds all the while requiring MUCH less voltage which will enable you to have a quiet if not super fast gaming system.
- Finally, if you're looking at the Sempron do it only if you absolutely cannot afford that extra ten bucks that it's going to cost you to move up to a Barton based XP processor. Though admittedly marketed at the low end internet/email usage market, AMD 2500+ Performance Rating system just doesn't hold up here. With the return of the low end Duron-esque processor let's hope AMD moves to a new naming system so as not to confuse Joe AOL who picks up a Sempron 2500+ thinking he's getting a great deal picking up the newest AMD chip at a great price to expecting it to perform at par with the regular Athlon XP chip his twelve year old kid made him promise to get.
this article made me think of a AMD Duron Applebred vs. Athlon XP Thoroughbred review we did. pretty much the same results here; Duron/Sempron not recommended, even for going "on the cheap";
Its worth it for gaming modern games, but its not gona get you typing word any faster...
;)
;), for speed up try linux, or if your not that wild try win2k for a preformance boost ;P
:)
I got my 2500+ over 6 months ago, OC'd it to the speed of a 3200+ and never looked back. If your getting a new system, go for 1Gb ram, makes a diff.
Generaly when upgrading:
Gaming PC
* Graphics card first, then CPU+Ram, then monitor
Word/Browser PC
* If its >1Ghz don't bother
Server
* If you do hard number crunching or heavly loading stuff, then try 64bit, but only if there is support for your app, as for gaming; its gona happen, just not yet, you won't get your bang for buck, but you will win any 'my d*cks bigger than yours'
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Looks ilke their webserver is running on a sempron. Or, was running.
$8.95/mo web hosting
The comparison between the Athlon XP and the Sempron is nice, but AMD has stopped supplying Athlon XP's under 3000+ rating. The CPU is already out of stock in some stores and others will soon follow. It won't be long before AMD stops the entire Barton line and all CPU's are based on the Athlon-64 core like the Sempron (which is Athlon-64 with 64-bit extensions disabled).
One pro for the Sempron is that it supports Cool'nQuiet, but I haven't been able to find a 2.4 patch that will support Cool'nQuiet for the Sempron yet.
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I use a 2800+ on my laptop and its a beauty.Its cheap and works like a beast.I have 512 mb RAM and the system can run any app you throw at it(almost).Games run good ( on my ATI RAdeon 320M), though i have'nt tried Doom3.
If your going for a laptop go for a 2800+ processor, its cheap and good peformance.
Lord of the Binges.
a Mobile Athlon, based on the Barton SOI
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The AXP-M is not SOI. Read here: http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5
Is there a desktop processor (at least 1700+ or better, AMD preferrably, x86 or amd64) that can run without a fan? I am quite annoyed with CPU fans nowadays. They tend to make more annoying noise compared to power supply fans. I am considering a Thermaltek liquid-cooling solution (around $150-$200) but really what I'd love is to have something that can run without a fan. I don't mind underclocking or buying a slightly more expensive processor. Remember the good old 486/Pentium days?
Yes, because Intel is WAY better in that regard.
How many different P4 2.4s have been released?
There were some on socket 423 and some on socket 478. Some for 400, 533 and 800MHz FSBs. Some support hyperthreading, some don't. Some use the Northwood core, some use Prescott. If I really want to think that way I can even say that some are Celerons and some are decent.
I don't follow Intel CPUs very closely exactly because of this. However, I'll bet if I looked for more than a moment I'd find that there have been at least ten intel chips marketed as 2.4GHz Pentium 4s.
-- I wanna decide who lives and who dies - Crow T. Robot, MST3K
Ideally, the hardware and OS should handle mixing different speeds and RAM sizes for the modules, so you could upgrade by adding some of the latest without throwing away your starter modules.
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Couple this with an 18 dollar 60 gig drive from Office Depot (earlier this week), 512 Megs of DDR memory for 60 bucks (Frys), a 20 dollar case/PS, a 25 dollar video card, a 20 dollar CD burner, a free copy of Linspire (Lindows), and Open Office.org and you've got one hell of a computer for well under 200 bucks!
True, it wouldn't satisfy 'bleeding edge' people, but I'll wager that it would work just fine for the other 99.75% of us out there.....