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Have a Nice Steaming Cup of Java 5

wap writes "The language/VM/religion that everyone loves to hate is now serving another cup: Java 1.5 is ready for download. The new features of 1.5 have been discussed here before. I, for one, welcome our new virtual machine overlord. I have been using the release candidate, and startup times are noticeably faster, as is overall performance, and the new features like typesafe collections and static imports are great to have. Let the Java flames begin!"

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  1. Re:Still no operators... by mirko · · Score: 1, Troll

    This should become part of a choice, it's like templates.
    Actually, the more I code in C++, the more I feel like explorating it further. Its' not the case in Java where it sounds like there's only 1 way to do each thing, mostly because of the plethora of APIs (WebLogic, etc.) that corporations force you to use over it...

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    Trolling using another account since 2005.
  2. What kind if idiot would call this flamebait? by LibertineR · · Score: 0, Troll

    Is some fool going to argue that Metadata attributes are not important? I am so sick of the silly bigotry of this board, that I hardly moderate anymore. Moderation is a joke, when idiots are allowed to moderate based on personal biases instead of the value of the goddamn post.

  3. Re:Java is to C as ... by Chrax · · Score: 0, Troll

    Good lord, have you actually programmed in Java? Object orientation is a terribly inefficient way to program. True, at some points it may come in handy, but I have yet to see an implementation that couldn't be done with fancy subroutines in a function oriented language. Also, what about compile times and the fact that Java actually doesn't work on all interfaces? They changed their virtual machine too much when porting it (seems the only logical explanation to me) and didn't change it in the versions they ported from. (And as a side note, I don't like the fact that you have to type four lines of code to do what C++ could do with a simple cin >> var;

    On another note, why should Microsoft be afraid? Are you under the impression that they own C or C++? The only thing Microsoft's in danger of losing to Sun is the worst implementation of a good idea.

  4. Oh God please no. by Gordon+Bennett · · Score: 0, Troll

    This is another weapon in the OO programmer's arsenal to bore the living daylights talking about it to any hapless individual who had the misfortune to ask what they do. Why wasn't this release checked by the UN? We should be told.

  5. Re:I wait! by pileated · · Score: 0, Troll

    So that brings up another topic: how many languages have to use another language to fix their own problems? And how often is perl the language used to fix things?

  6. Re:I love the hate by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 0, Troll
    Have you ever heard of the straw man fallacy? Look it up

    Yes I did, it said something about AWT, Swing and mentioned the term "slow as molasses". Which fits nicely with my example.