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OSIA Dismisses Gartner Linux Piracy Claim

Anonymous Coward writes "The Inquirer is reporting that a claim by Gartner that Linux desktops are used for pirated copies of windows has been dismissed by the Open Source Industry Association (OSIA). OSIA told The Sydney Morning Herald that 'if Gartner's conclusion that pre-installing Linux encouraged people to steal copies of Windows were correct.... It would be possible to state that pre-installing Windows encourages people to pirate application software.'"

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  1. There should be an MS tax, no there shouldn't... by kentmartin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    OK, colour me not too bright, but I cannot see why pre-installed Linux is being targeted here by Gartner - their claim doesn't seems to be, pre-installing Linux is the same as shipping the machine with no OS whatsoever.

    To continue with their premise, any machine sold with no OS (or Linux) installed is destined for pirated software which would imply by there logic, if you want to take it all the way down the line, that there should be an international mandate that no machine should be sold without paying the MS tax.

    To be doubly sure, the only way to ensure this MS tax was paid in full would be to make sure that all PC components had a markup on them to allow for a the price of a copy of Windows on a fully assembled machine (otherwise home built machines would be "tax exempt") - it just all gets a bit silly.

    It would be interesting to know where these numbers come from (on both sides of this argument), and, how they can possibly be verified.

    It simply comes down to a case of MS saying: "You public who don't buy from us, and who we by some weird twist of logic, try to link with the opensource community, are probably stealing from us". Their claim is probably in part true, but to link it with the opensource community is mistifying.

    Oh - and then, shock horror, the opensource community comes back with: "We don't steal from you" (probably true on the whole) "and those who buy Linux desktops don't steal from you either" (probably, at least, significantly false).

    Oh - for the purposes of this comment it has been assumed that the independant research company Gartner is independently researching for the independent entity of Microsoft.

  2. Yes, but by ScrewMaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    preinstalling Windows does encourage people to pirate software.

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    The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
  3. Re:There should be an MS tax, no there shouldn't.. by pe1chl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Also don't forget that MS has been stealing from the OpenSource community. I significant portion of systems running Linux has likely been bought with a MS operating system pre-installed and its license paid. Efforts to refund that money have always been frustrated by MS and its OEMs.

  4. Pirating Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder how many people over the past 10 years have purchased computers pre-installed with Windows, only to immediately remove it and install Linux?

    1. Re:Pirating Linux by Rxke · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Laptops are not that easy to cobble together from off-the-shelves parts... And seeing the laptop market getting bigger and bigger, it might be a significant number...

  5. Scraping the bottom of the barrel... by sugapablo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now we're really scraping the bottom of the barrel here.

    What's next?

    =) Installing cars with accelerators encourages drivers to speed?
    =) Wrapping burgers in paper encourages people to litter?
    =) Putting two idiots on the ballot in November encourages voters to make idiotic decisions?

    People need to RELAX.

  6. Re:There should be an MS tax, no there shouldn't.. by null-sRc · · Score: 5, Funny

    pre-installing Linux is the same as shipping the machine with no OS whatsoever.

    oh come on! linux isn't THAT bad! :P

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    -judging another only defines yourself
  7. Who are GARTNER anyway...? by bogaboga · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Who are GARTNER anyway? Aren't they the ones who were analysed in some CNN article to the effect that...

    "...Several times, Gartner Group makes the mistake of equating Red Hat with Linux, which marks the company as completely clueless on the topic matter..." They also ranted..."Red Hat will not meet the Linux community's expectations of overturning Microsoft's dominance and becoming a billion-dollar software company..." Who said Linux's goal was to overturn M$' monopoly?

    Info like this especially from GARTNER is not worth a read. I walked into a store just yesterday and wanted to buy a [new] mainboard. I wanted to know from the salesman whether the board I eventually bought (an MSI one) was friendly to Linux. I was supprised that he knew what he was talking about. I slapped on an AMD CPU and 256 MB of RAM, then left with a very good feeling that Linux is surely catching on. I am now downloading SuSE Personal as I type this message. I can tell you, that Linux is surely doing well.

    Have a good weekend.

    Cb..