Advice On Notebook Backpacks?

UnknowingFool writes "I'm about to go on a whirlwind trip with my laptop. Currently I'm using a generic laptop bag, but it's not really made for trips like this. I want to see if I can get a good notebook backpack and wanted to know what experiences traveling geeks here have had with notebook backpacks. My criteria: 1) Around $50 2) Functional enough to be used after my trip as a generic backpack 3) Tough enough to survive hauling through airport, yet comfortable enough to endure wearing for hours 4) Enough pockets for my chargers, cables , etc." I've been impressed with some bags from Targus; any good suggestions out there?

Comments

EBags

[NitsujTPU]

I've been browsing around ebags.com, which seems to be a good source of data on bags (though I'm interested in messenger style bags).

Re:EBags

[iocat]

eBags is really nice site to deal with. I bought my JanSport bag there and I like it, although it's kind of big (great for trips, because it can hold an extra change of clothes, kind of overkill for day to day because I keep losing things in all the pockets).

If you're looking for something that doesn't look, feel, and act like every other bag on the market, you should definitely check out groundwear . That link goes to a good laptop bag, but they have some backpacks that would also fit the bill. My friend at work has one of their bags and I am jealous enough of it that I may shelve the JanSport except for over night trips.

Re:EBags

[erwin]

I had a Timbuk2 bike messenger bag that I use to carry a Vaio and a change of clothes to and from work. It's a great bag, and I see that they now have a laptop model. The cool thing, they're bags have a rubberized skin thatm makes them largly water proof (though not water-tight). I crashed my bike once and landed flat on my back on top of the Vaio and the bag/clothes combo saved the laptop from even a dent. I think if you want a messenger bag, get it from the folks who make professional messenager bags.

Re:EBags

[fafaforza]

I had a Timbuk2 too. Very, very well made, great stitching and materials, so he'll have a hard time finding one for $50, even on eBay.

Their bags are sturdy and water tight, though. I had no qualms throwing it around with my delicate Titanium PowerBook inside, or walking with it in heavy rain.

Re:EBags

[KaffeineKitty]

I like this backpack by Mobile Edge on ebags.com: http://www.ebags.com/mobile_edge/select_backpack/p roduct_detail/index.cfm?ModelID=18154
If you look closely at the pictures you'll see that it even has a special pocket for a CD/MP3 player with a hole for the headphone cord. That way you can listen to music without even taking the MP3 player out of the backpack. There's a detachable pocket for your cell phone. It also doesn't look obviously like a laptop bag. Some of the reviewers thought it was a little small if you wanted to carry a lot of other things. I won't know until next week when I get mine! Newegg.com (where I got mine) does have a better price, they have the black version of this for $50: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?desc ription=34-997-609&depa=3. The also have the blue version for $55.

Re:EBags

[joshsteadmon]

I've got the El Ocho, and it's plenty big enough for my 15" Powerbook (which I keep in a separate laptop sleeve from InCase for padding), plus two or three textbooks, notebooks, a box of magic cards, and a big honking calculator. It's SOOO much more comfortable than a regular backpack, and if I only have my laptop & one book, I don't even feel it while walking around. One of my best purchases ever.

Re:EBags

[Stinking Pig]

I have a Timbuk2 bag as well -- the largest courier bag. At first I was going to return it, largest is really large. Get the smaller size if you're under six feet tall. They have a great configger on their website, which is worth checking out.

It holds a ton of gear and a week's worth of clothes. It can be jammed into the space under an airplane seat, would be practically impossible to remove from my person in a quick mugging scenario, and doesn't scream "geek with electronics!" Though I suppose the BlackBerry and iRiver sticking out of my pockets do that... My bag has also had plenty of beverages spilled on it without harm to anything inside.

Re:EBags

[mesach]

1) Around $50 2) Functional enough to be used after my trip as a generic backpack 3) Tough enough to survive hauling through airport, yet comfortable enough to endure wearing for hours 4) Enough pockets for my chargers, cables , etc.

Pick 3, You can never have it all, especially when price is one of the options. Its always to low

I don't think I would trust any bag that cost $50 to protect my laptop, its one area that i spent a bunch of money and got a nice setup.

Re:EBags

[cjsnell]

If you want a truly hardcorde messenger bag, you should check out Ortleib. Timbuk2 is good (we used to sell them) but I think the Ortleib's contruction is more "bomber".

However, if you want a computer bag, you really don't want a bike messenger bag. These bags are usually designed for papers and small packages--not heavy laptops. You're better off with a real laptop backpack. I love my JanSport pack--I think it's the "Firewire" model. I bought mine at the mall and probably paid about $100 than I would have paid at eBags. I carried a heavy Apple TiBook, along with books and cables, on a business trip to New Zealand. My laptop survived six flights, five hotels, and countless bus rides without a scratch.

Chris

Re:EBags

[polecat_redux]

I saw this one a few weeks ago at a Best Buy. It is rather nice.

Swiss Gear Maxxum

Re:EBags

[Collin]

i second the recommendation on the swissgear maxxum. i got mine for $45 after rebate at staples during the back to school sales. they were clearancing them but you may still be able to find them at the office stores or as the original poster mentioned, at bestbuy for a bit more money.

the bag has pockets all over the place and would be ideal for travel. it has two large compartments. the one closest to you back is the laptop sleeve with padding and a few pockets for CDs and other stuff. You can fit more flat stuff in this compartment as well. The second large compartment is a deep bathtub that can take a bunch of books, clothes, etc. if this compartment had some velcro strips so you could add dividers for camera and other gear it would be ideal.

there is also a zippered back section with organizer pockets inside for business cards, key clip, and other stuff. Between the two large compartments is a small pouch for CD/MP3 player with earphone cord port. along the sides are two tall narrow zippered pockets that can fit cords, mice, chargers, small tripodds, etc.

on the sides are two generously sized mesh pockets that can hold water bottles or umbrellas or a rolled up newspaper or magazine. Finally, there is a open compartment held by straps on the very back that you can shove shoes or other weird shape stuff and pull the straps tight to hold it on. The bottom of the pack is flat and helps keep the bag standing up when you set it on the ground.

There are two convenient handles on the top: a nice big rubber grip one, and another one that is just a strap. The shoulder straps are very padded and use a elastic mount, which is comfortable, but i'd rather have solid straps rather than the bouncy feel of these suspension systems. The flat black is very thickly padded with airflow channels. I find this very comfortable, but the padding tends to rub against your back in a way that rides the back of your shirt upwards as you walk. There is also a waist strap which helps keep things stable. when you are running or walking. I wish it had a sternum strap though.

Overall, a great bag, although a bit large for everyday use. I got another smaller swiss gear bag for daily use going to class.

Spire

[cartzworth]

SpireUSA makes great bags http://www.spireusa.com/

Re:Spire

[Anonymous Coward]

I second that, my Spire bag has lasted me for over 3 years of weekly travel and still looks brand new. Great design, heavy stitching, excellent laptop padding and doesn't look very "laptop bag" from a theft risk standpoint.

Great stuff - probably 1.5-2x more expensive up front, but well worth it.

Re:Spire

[nicholas.]

I'll third the Spire recommendation. They cost three times what you want to spend, but they're worth it.

http://www.spireusa.com/products/backpacks.htm

Another great thing is that they don't look like computer bags. They don't scream "Please still me!"

A little pricy, but excellent

[scapermoya]

I use the Jinx backpack: Jinx Laptop backpack its $80 but i feel like it was well worth it. it has all the room for the extra stuff, its really comfy, and I feel like it is keeping my dell lappy nice and secure. It sounds like we do similar things, airports, etc. If you are willing to spend it, go for this one. Scapermoya.

Re:A little pricy, but excellent

[molrak]

Or you could just get the regular Metro backpack on Amazon. It's the same backpack, $17 cheaper, unless you really want the jinx stuff on it. The Metro has survived rather well for me thus far this semester.

Crumpler

[awful]

These guys make great sturdy bags, with nice designs and pockets.
Crumpler computer bags

Re:Crumpler

[scattol]

I've got the shrinkle. It's a camera bag and a laptop bag at the same time. When you travel you need room for the digital camera and the laptop. That bag is ideal. Since you can take the camera part completely out, you can also convert it into a regular back pack.

Re:Crumpler

[StArSkY]

yeah, I bought a crumpler:

Team Player

These bags are incredibly sturdy, I travelled around asia with my laptop and clothes in this baby.

mine was silver and blue.

Re:Crumpler

[ShogZilla]

I'll second recommending crumpler bags - I actually have two, a "formal lounge" and a "brian's hottub" - got the hottub when I moved on to a laptop larger than the formal lounge could handle.

They're both of the "camera bag" variety, and deceptively roomy inside. I have, on occasion, carried three laptops plus associated cables, bricks, & sundry drives at once in the hottub - though admittedly only one laptop got the full padded-pocket protection. The entire interior is fuzzy velcro, so velcro straps can be used to secure items on the inside; has a wealth of pockets & straps; is amazingly comfortable to wear and sturdily built.

The downside is cost - these bags aren't even close to the 50$ price point. More like $150+.

Oh, and if you move to a 17" widescreen or 16" 4:3 laptop, you'll have to get the hottub model.

RE:

[Anonymous Coward]

The targus bag I have is great, I even broke a buckle on it by slamming it in my car door and they sent me out a new bag in like a week.

Your main concern when picking one of their bags is your laptop fitting into it.
I have an Inspirion 9100 so I had to get the biggest backpack they had and it ran me $90.

You should also check out best buy, they sell quite a few targus bags there.

Trivial Warning

[Bryan Gividen]

I bought a Targus bag and I am absoloutely in love with it. However, I do use a slightly larger laptop (around 6 lbs, 16" screen, Vaio) and my laptop fits almost too snugly into my the laptop protection slide that is in most Targus bags. If you have a larger laptop, make sure you try it before you buy it. That aside, I've been using my Targus bag for over a year now, bought it for $35 and I love it. Carries all the books I ever need, place for my mouse and all my cables... great bag.

Targus Laptop bag

[DeDmeTe]

http://www.targus.com/us/cases_notebook_backpacks. asp I have an older model back pack which is no longer available.. but I'd live and die by it. I've had it for 2 years, and there still isn't a single tear in it. I can't belive how much crap I can fit in it. It gets used every day.. been dropped many times and has travelled with me on every flight for the past couple of years. I love it!

Brenthaven

[atlauren]

Brenthaven sells the best backpacks I've ever seen. Definitely well above the $50 threshhold - more like $150-$200. But the contstruction is impeccable, lots of pockets, very comfortable, sternum straps, and expandable enough to be used as an overnight/weekend bag.

Apple-cobranded versions are available at Apple retail stores; standard product line is available at fine luggage stores near you.

http://www.brenthaven.com/

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This space for rent.

Samsonite

[the_quark]

I have a Samsonite Rafter backpack and I love it. It has a ton of pockets, it's very sturdy, and doesn't scream "laptop bag" the way many of them do. It also has a lot of handy features like a special pocket for a music player with a headphone pass through. Froogle says $40-$60.

Arcteryx Blade 21

[penguinstorm]

Arcteryx makes the Blade 21:
http://www.arcteryx.com/product.aspx?group=Pa cks&p rod=1026

and it's the best laptop backpack I've ever owned. I've owned 7.

I like the Arcteryx because:
1) It's a great backpack; the straps are conmfortable and nothing digs into your bag. Why bother wearing a backpack that's not comfortable?
2) It will generally fit any computer; there are limits, but my 15" PowerBook wasn't a problem, even if I choose to carry it (unnecessarily so) in a Neoprene sleeve
3) It has a separate pocket for carrying files etc, which is fairly cavernous. There are two additional pockets for pens/cards/cables etc.
4) It is clean looking, and doesn't look like a dorky Targus notebook bag. The pack itself doesn't really have anything hanging off of it, so it never gets caught on things.
5) It includes a handle that lets you carry the bag briefcase style; very convenient when moving short distances, or arriving at corporate offices.
6) I can use it to carry my avalanche shovel on winter expeditions, although I have another pack that does that as well.

What I don't like about it:
1) Zippers can be bad for shiny white plastic iBooks; if you're carrying one of these, you'd better get a neoprene sleeve or something to avoid scratches (or buy a PowerBook, which was my solution to the problem; the Aluminum doesn't scratch easily.) I like Marware's Neoprene sleeve
2) There is no padding on the top of the bag (the side with the handle.) This is not uncommon - in fact this bag has padding on every other side, which is rare. I blame my golf clubs for it, but I have a minor dent in a corner a of PB which might have been prevented with padding on the top of the bag.

All in all a great bag; I considered some of the Swiss Army products, but they sort of look a bit too back-packy for me in a work environment.

Tom Bihn

[brjndr]

These bags are more expensive than you specified in your criteria, but they are great bags. I have the Brain bag, and it the best backpack I've had. It is really comfortable on your back, and the shoulder straps are padded so you can wear the backpack for a long time.

Re:Tom Bihn

[rbrunner]

I've used a Brain Cell for the last 4 years, and I now have a Monolith bag for my new PowerBook. They both have held up very well.

I carry them inside my JanSport backpack. I much prefer backpacks to shoulder bags, and the JanSport is more anonymous than a laptop-specific bag, which hopefully reduces the temptation for theives.

Regular backpack with water bladder sleeve

[fpga_guy]

Even better, get something like a Lowe Alpine bag (I have a Contour Mountain) that has an inner sleeve for those CamelBack water bladders - any sensible-sized laptop fits perfectly in there.

When I travel with my laptop I buy a bubble-wrap envelope from the post office , put the laptop in there and put the whole thing in the water bladder sleeve - takes 10 seconds to pull it out through airport security checks, and provides enough padding to keep it happy and healthy.

Re:Regular backpack with water bladder sleeve

[Rangataua]

Second that. I've got a Macpac daypack for transporting my Laptop. Several other people that I know of use a laptop bag made by Kathmandu. The other main advantages of this approach are that you get a bag is more likely to keep your machine dry if it rains, and the harness on the pack is likely to be better designed and consequently more comfortable when used for extended periods of time.

Re:Average bookbag laptop bag.

[Peyna]

The one thing I don't like about backpacks is that almost always if you set it down on it's back (as is common), then all the weight of all your books is on top of the laptop. If you have to carry a lot of books around all the time, it's not very useful.

Tom Bihn

[Anonymous Coward]

I've been tempted by Tom Bihn's laptop bags. Has anyone used them?

ObTangent - Tom Binh's bags got some press because of their French instructions.

Tom Bihn

[energylad]

The best laptop I've ever owned was by Tom Bihn. Get the Brain Bag with the padded laptop sleeve -- no one's ever suspected I've had a laptop in there, it looks just like a big travelling pack with a belt to distribute the weight, lots of pockets, tightening straps on the sides, and you can beat the hell out of it.

http://www.tombihn.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Scre en=PROD&Product_Code=TB0104&Category_Code=TBP&Prod uct_Count=5

Additionally, the Snake Charmer is great for keeping your cables together and fits neatly in the space above the laptop in the rear zipper pocket.

(I don't work for these people, but I bought a bag at their Santa Cruz store before they moved up north -- I've had it for five years, taken it trans-Atlantic more than that number of times, and never had a problem with it.)

Try Samsonite.

[jtdennis]

Samsonite has a lot of nice backpacks for laptops. I have had one for around a year that's cushoned, has an internal frame, and holds my laptop and all my other crap comfortably.

Big and Little Easy Pack's from L.L. Bean.

[Cadre]

Two laptap backpacks that don't look like laptop bags are the Big and Little Easy Pack's from LL Bean.

They are inexpensive (around $49/$59 for little/big) and have the standard backpack straps, messenger bag (sling strap) and briefcase handle.

be careful with ebags "free" opt-in offers

[quinxy]

My gf bought from ebags, and she accidentally accepted one of their "free" offers which meant she was subscribed to some $$$/month fee for some discount "club" or something. Took her 3 months to notice. She's a bright girl, and certainly didn't want the damn club membership. I'm not saying it's illegal or anything, it's just always tough to read all the fine print, and always be on your guard against those things.

Alienware Backpack

[MustEatYemen]

I've got a big heavy "laptop".
[Alienware Backpack]
is what I use to haul around my 9 pound laptop. Plus, cellphone, mp3 player, and pda. Plus related cables/charges and a spare battery.
It's not exactly a normal backpack, and it's not laid out to carry around books, but it's extremly confortable to wear, and hold (the top strap).
$90 dollars might be out of your price range, but I enjoy mine.

Targus Matrix backpack

[Trukster]

FWIW, I have been using the Targus Matrix bag for the last several semesters and it's great. It's pretty much all black and doesn't scream "Laptop" like some of them do, and has tons of room and compartments sized perfectly for wireless cards, cables, and other stuff. Another option if you want to be sly is to buy a laptop sleave from Spire or someone else to protect the laptop and use a standard bag that blends in even better. The only problem with a standard bag is that you wont have as much room for other stuff when the sleaved laptop is in it.

laptop sleeves are available separately

[belmolis]

For those who want to use a regular backpack, the protective sleeve that comes with Trager laptop backpacks can be purchased separately, e.g. here.

Sumdex pack

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't see where anyone has mentioned Sumdex. I have had one for a couple years. It has been on many trips plus I use it to carry my notebook into the office. The shoulder straps are extremely comfortable and the layout is very usable. I highly recommend them.

Padded Sleeve in Regular Backpack

[puetzc]

I have two Waterfield SleeveCases (purchased from http://www.sfbags.com/). They come in sizes to actually fit your laptop, and with side loading for regular soft bags, or top loading for backpacks. Your laptop is secure, and the bag doesn't scream "Take Me." The shipment was prompt, and the quality good.

Re:Padded Sleeve in Regular Backpack

[SuperQ]

yep.. I have a vertical slip case for my Thinkpad X31, I carry it every day to work and back.. the sfbags are very worth the price.. the construction quality is excelent.

The thing I liked the most about the sfbags stuff was the fact that they size the bags to fit laptops, Ever other company makes a laptop bag for 15" boats, but a good well-fit case for smaller laptops is hard to find. the case for the X31 is perfect, it was snug at first, but after a month of use, it streched to perfect fit.

I keep my slipcase in my North Face: Yavapai. Good sturdy backpack, with a nice organized front pouch for pens, tools, checkbook, business cards, etc etc. It has a great elastic pocket on the inside that keeps the slipcase from floping around inside the bag.

Re:Padded Sleeve in Regular Backpack

[Maxwell309]

I have carried my 12" powerbook in a waterfield designs sleeve case for 1.5 years now, and it is doing great. I switch off between a messenger style bag, a backpack and sometimes I use the strap that came with the sleeve case. Good stuff.

Re:repeat

[triclops]

Well here is a similar thread from December last year - less than a year old.

I found that thread very helpful when considering my own purchase of adequet laptop protection. I ended up getting one from here as a result.

dana design

[bmwm3nut]

i've always been a huge fan of dana design (www.danadesign.com). i have a day pack that i have used every day (similar to: http://www.danadesign.com/packs/access/salish.asp) for the past 6 years, and two huge packs for week-long backpacking trips (http://www.danadesign.com/packs/arc/astralplane.a sp). everything is warrentied for life. the only thing they don't cover is animal damage. i've tested the warrenty a couple of times, and they'll send me the replacement parts in two days or so, and they don't require me to send the broken stuff back, they're great to deal with. i got my girlfriend the dana design messenger bag (http://www.danadesign.com/packs/street/ti.asp) and she's been using it everyday for about a year and it still looks as good as new. you'll probably pay more than $50, but it's worth it if you never ever need to buy another bag. i'd suggest the "suit" model. (http://www.danadesign.com/packs/street/suit.asp)

Re:Just use a regular backpack

[Anonymous Coward]

Targus make some backpacks without the targus logo prominently displayed. Mine looks nodescript and a little ugly... just what I want to deter theives. It is, however, comfortable and protects my laptop well.

See it here. The only targus logos I can find are the ones embossed on the zippers.

Re:Brenthaven

[oneishy]

Just to say.. I agree, the Brenthaven backpack I have is just awesome. It does well as a normal backpack, and I love that it isn't plastered with logos and is just a plain backpack (we joke that it looks like a parachute bag.. but anyway). The apple cobranded versions really are not apple branded, they just fit the powerbooks perfectly.

It is more than your range, but if protecting your laptop is worth it, then it's worth it.

Brenthaven bags

[Shant3030]

Brenthaven bags are pretty good. Alot of pockets, solid construction, comfortable straps. Try ebay when buying, it will save you $$$$$

http://www.brenthaven.com/

Think about the weather...

[jenkin sear]

I have (and like) the Targus Sport backpack. The best feature is the one-piece waterproof flap that covers the top and zippers.

If you're stuck walking around in the rain with your laptop on your back, this will protect your laptop from water getting in. Too many bag designs don't take inclement weather into account.

The only problem is that the pack is ugly as hell; black and white checked fabric, mesh waterbottle sacks for no apparent reason, and a pointless chest belt.

The good thing is that if you're wearing it, you won't have to look at it.

Tom Bihn's bags: extremely durable

[SimHacker]

On the enthusiastic recommendation of Hugh Daniel, I bought a huge padded "Black Bag" big enough for two laptops from Tom Bihn's shop in Santa Cruz, CA, back around 1996.

It's huge and tough and build like a tank: It's got an enormous padded main compartment, a secondary full sized compartment big enough for another computer, a third full sized compartment with pockets for accessories, and a big zippered pocket on the outside.

After 8 years of constant abuse: All the seams are still well sewn and sealed on the inside and outside, so there are no loose threads or freys, like most backpacks develop. The fabric hasn't torn, the zippers have never broken or jammed. All top quality material and workmanship!

It's so well made, that it's still in excellent condition after 8 years. I would definitely get another one, but my old one still has years of use left in it.

Here's an article reviewing Tom Bihn's "Smart Alec" and "Monolith" bags. He has many models specifically designed for laptops, that you can order on his web site, and the prices are quite reasonable!

His web site says: "Tom Bihn has been designing and making bags for well over 20 years. The daypacks he made when he was 13 years old are still in use. And in Santa Cruz, California, where Tom grew up, his laptop cases and book bags are almost legendary."

-Don

Spire Backpacks

[dsouth]

My wife and I both use backpacks from Spire. Great backpacks, comfortable and well-built. [I'm an FAA parachute rigger, and have a soft spot for well-constructed packs -- the materials and construction in Spire's stuff is much higher quality than the competeing products I've seen. The Targus cases in particular are junk.]

The downside is that you'll be spending more than $50. The upside is that the backpack will outlast your laptop. [Mine has been doing 50 mi of motorcycle commuting a day for the last 4 years, my wife's has been hauling schoolbooks for three years. Both have all seams, zippers, and fabric intact, if a little dirty.]

Re: putting laptops in the trunk

[King_TJ]

Well, yes... It's always better to keep things completely out of sight. But I recall working at a job where one of the salesmen was just issued a new laptop, and someone saw him carrying it out to his car and putting it in his trunk. They waited until nobody was looking and pried his trunk open with a crowbar to get the laptop.

So you're still better off if people don't even think you're carrying a laptop when you're walking around. You never know if they're watching you put it away!

Re: putting laptops in the trunk

[metlin]

Happened to a friend once outside a club. She had kept her stuff in the trunk before entering the club, and just took her id and her wallet. Someone had seen her do this, and when she came back everything was lost.

It's probably a better idea to put things in your trunk beforehand and then go wherever the hell you're going. You can try making sure that there's nobody around, but I'm sure that the guys who do this sort of thing are probably very organized and will keep subtle watch.

Better yet, don't carry things unless you absolutely have to.

Re:repeat

[onestickybit]

repeat? somebody said the exact same thing in the thread you linked to.
anyway, this is my favorite. looks good too.
http://www.targus.com/us/product_details.asp?sku=T CG200

Like the Jansport.

[twitter]

I've had this bag's ancestor for about nine years. The organizer pockets are awesome, with three palm top sized pockets, each with smaller pocket in front for holding five pens, several pc cards CF and other things. The main compartment has room for a good sized laptop, such as a thinkpad, a binder, an engineering pad and book or two or a large camera. A smaller zippered pocket fits wires, chords and a cell phone. It's not a slick as a real brief case or a Hartman leather bag, it's cheaper and more comfortable while looking good enough for any interview.

With that and a folding bag for clothes and books, I've got enough for days on the road. The laptop rides in front of me and the clothes ride behind me so that the straps go over my head and cross each other.

Re:EBags-- My RakGear bagh holds some 29-32lbs...

[davidsyes]

Sept 5, 2001, I bought a RakGear backpack for $70. The line was subsequently bought up by Targus and then KILLED OFF. It looks like the one in the picture at this URL:

http://www.login.co.th/cgi-bin/cs?asset=21&id= 747

Closer, or actually it is (except mine is black with olive or deep green, not blue, trim):

http://shopper.cnet.com/RAKGEAR_DELUXE_NOTEBOOK_ BA CKPACK_BLACK_NAVY/4014-6459_9-5979339.html?q=

Model RBND05. The only thing I could recommend to Targus if they care to resurrect the bag is to flatten the internal rack's feet and widen them, and reinforce the bottom. I loaded my rack's shelves with color magazines, papers and even my BJC-85 bubblejet alternately. Over time, the weight ruined the leather on the outside, although on the inside the damage is invisible because the nylon/whatever material is resilient. But, dragging the bag or repeatedly pushing it along by foot on a bus or on another floor WILL damage it after about 2 years.

I don't like that Targus bought up my bag's style and then seems to have killed it off. It's a nice bag.

This bag:

http://homeworktips.about.com/cs/productreviews/ gr /rakdeluxe.htm

seems less "backpack-bomberish" in that they removed the lower side and back pouches that I stuck batteries and toiletries and even a surge strip into, but I don't think it will carry the weight of stuff I can carry in mine. It is WELL worth the US $70.00

Also, check epinions:

http://www.epinions.com/content_60065943172

This bag clearly shows the removable star-shaped/4-point accessory strap which could tie down a number of things...

Also, read:

http://www.worldchiropracticalliance.org/news/ra kg ear.htm

http://www.shentech.com/tarakiba.html

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The rest of this is from my attachment to "Do yourself a favor", at:

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=124854&cid=1 04 72989

It seems they and SONY both benefit, as the best features of the Rack Gear bag are now labelled with those two names, but they dispensed with the book/notes rack inside. I use my rack, since it lets me organize things. Fully loaded, I've marched, ahem, walked 14 miles (from 1245 AM to 0515 AM) from Mountain View (El Camino & Castro) to San Jose (Winchester & Stevens Creek) once with some 28 to 32 pounds of laptop, accessories, paper, a 5-or 6-plug surge strip and thick 6-foot cable by Fellowes on once side, and my toiletries (toothpaste, brush, mouthwash, toilet seat covers, and other things) on the other side, and such inside it. The worst part of the walk was my shoes, but that RACK GEAR bag was not too uncomfortable. A military friend of mine said that much weight on my 150-lb body frame, in the context of that walk on concrete would more than be sufficient to meet some beyond-normal fitness tests...

Depending on my needs, I can remove some papers or a book and insert my pair of 2-inch thick add-on speakers, the audio converter wire, a small 5-port switch, two 5-foot lengths of Cat-5, 2 or 3 thinwire RJ-45-wired pieces, it's OWN power supply, in addition to the screw drivers and tools. I basically have a 35-lb computer office on my back. Why the hell? I felt I needed a laptop to show the SBA/SCORE my business plan spreadsheets in action rather than on paper. I also stuck inside the bag my Canon BJC-85, 2 or 4 spare or redundant laptop disks, the PCMCIA adaptor for them, and some floppies as well, plus several CDs/DVDs of Mandrake. Yep, talk about ROAD WARRIOR. AND, on the strap side, where the laptop is padded and against my back, there is a section to stick yet MORE paper, between the LT and the racked area of the backpack. I've only seen maybe 3 in use, one in Oregon and maybe 2 in Calif.

The DOWNside of this pack is if you use yours like I do mine, the shelf feet will, after a year of lifting/dragging on bus floors and running to chase buses, wear out the leather bot

Tough? You Want Filson.

[cribcage]

I always recommend Filson.

I use the briefcase/laptop bag, but they offer several backpack models that would do the trick. Filson was founded during the Gold Rush. Their bags aren't stylish, but they're old-fashioned and tough. You want durable? Filson's duffle bag will carry a 1968 1500 c.c. Single Port Volkswagen engine. You'll pay for lasting quality.

Order a catalog. It's the ultimate guys' company, and the catalog is filled with stories like, "Your pants protected my leg from a chainsaw," and, "Your coat saved me from a bear attack." Truly chest-puffing masculinity. It's not a catalog your wife will be interested in stealing.

Seriously, Filson's among my favorite companies. The craftsmanship is unmatched. You won't worry about anything being stolen from your secure bag -- and you won't ever, ever worry about it ripping or tearing. Most of Filson's luggage carries the disclaimer, "Clean by wiping or brushing only. Gains character with use." This stuff is made to last.

Last Christmas, I bought a Filson blanket. $200 is damn expensive for a wool blanket, but (a) it's the warmest blanket I've ever owned, and (b) I have every expectation that I'll be able to hand it down to my grandchildren. Filson is never cheap, but it's always money well spent.

crib

Re:Targus backpack.. Beware!

[JaredOfEuropa]

I'd recommend it as it seems to fit your needs as described.

One problem with Targus bags is the fact that it's a well known brand for laptop cases... you might as well carry a sign "I carry an expensive laptop, please rob me".

Robbers increasingly look for high-potential targets, like people with the tell-tale white Ipod earphones. If you get a Targus bag, remove the brand labels.

STM

[mr_tap]

I would definately recommend a backpack from STM. They have heaps of pockets and places to stash stuff, they are strong and they don't look like a typical laptop bag.

I vaguely remember a US supplier being publicised, but you can get them everywhere in Australia

Try Spire bags

[seraphina]

http://www.spireusa.com/
I bought a bag of them (the Zoom) and it has a laptop compartment with extra padding that can be removed and used as a laptop sleeve with its own handle. I have nothing but praise for these bags - you feed in your laptop model and it tells you which pouch will best fit the laptop. My laptop survived a 6ft drop from a train overhead luggage rack (pausing to bounce off my head:-( ) and it was unharmed. Their bags don't scream LAPTOP either. But at $120, probably a bit more than you want to spend though.

Similar question on engadget.com

[urmensch]

Here's a whole bunch of suggestions

Try Eastpak

[SiMac]

I have a great Eastpak laptop bag that has a padded laptop pocket, but was very inexpensive and is relatively well-built. I use it to bring things to school every day, whether I have my laptop with me or not. It doesn't look at all like a laptop bag (it's bright red and says "Eastpak") so there's very little chance of getting mugged. It also cost $25 when I bought it. I don't remember the model but a quick glance at Amazon shows the Eastpak Unplugged, which looks similar but perhaps a little larger, and costs $30.

Re:Hard-shell?

[the pickle]

Axio and Boblbee are the two that come to mind. I have a Boblbee Metropolis and I *love* it, although it does get a lot of "what the hell is that thing?" comments. The Axio packs are rather less weird-looking, but still obviously aren't normal backpacks.

I got my Metropolis on closeout at an outdoor outfitter store (think local mom-n-pop version of REI) for about $120. Retail on that pack is somewhere around $200, I think, but IMO it's still worth it. My biggest complaint is that the pack is fairly small, so you can carry a laptop, your power adapter, an Ethernet cable, and a notebook or two, but not much else. I wouldn't want to have it as my *only* backpack, but it works fairly well as my only computer case.

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ULTIMATE Laptop Backpack/Attache

[Locus Mote]

Shaun Jackson, an architecture professor at the University of Michigan, has designed a series of totally unique laptop bags. They can even be layed on your lap to function as a portable desk. I have been using the 15" BackOffice model for almost a year now and I will never switch to anything else. It does everything. My favorite features include:

• Integral lap-desk functionality.
• Backpack straps which hide away when not in use.
• A strong, comfortable handle for briefcase carrying.
• Killer design aesthetics.
• Tons of cargo space. Easily enough room for a power supply, full-size mouse, pda or cell phone, 1" 3-ring binder and more.
• Really well-made. Sturdy.

Here's a link to his website: http://www.sjdesign.com/

NOTE: I am in no way related to Shaun or his company. I'm simply an extremely satisfied customer who believes in the quality and design of his products.

Army Issue Rucksack

[Lodragandraoidh]

I have two U.S. Army issue rucksacks - one small and one large with a metal frame that fits both - both of which have a pouch at the top for mounting one of the old PRC box-style radios. This pouch is sufficient size to hold a laptop, and you have the added storage to cover your other travel gear as required. Open the cover flap, and release a strap - and the computer is in your hands. The computer is closest to your back - and with a full pack, would be surrounded on the outside by other things.

These systems are tough - and having them for over 10 years now, they appear to be brand new.

This was discussed on /. last december

[HalliS]

See Recommendations For A Good Laptop Bag?

Some 824 comments :)

Airline advice

[Jagd]

As a ... hmmm.... how does the populace brand me.... a "savage baggage handler" for an air carrier I handle those wimpy cordura backpacks/computer cases daily. TRUST ME ... If it ain't HARDSIDE it ain't guaranteed to make it. Sure, 99.9% do but.....

Granted, you plan to carry the said case/bag on board as you have been totally assured that is your right. /cough..hack..gag/ sorry... 'All overhead space is filled and that bag is too big for under the seat on this (previously unknown) express aircraft.' At that point you surrender your computer in whatever wimpy covering to ME... mwuhahahahahaa!.

Look, I'm just a guy doing the same ole job every day. I handle several hundred bags a shift. Yours is one of .. say twenty "carry-ons" to be loaded in the cargo bin. I may handle bags carefully but another ramprat may not. Also, your single precious bag has now become the cohabitant of an area that contains at least 50 other bags (average on an express jet). /friendly stewardess voice/ "Cargo can shift slightly during takeoff and landing"

Now... /me whipping out his handy sliderule.. let's figure the force of the corner of one HARDSIDE bag (could be a metal case actually) weighing in the range of 70 pounds falling from a height of 2 feet (conservative) on your SOFTSIDE computer case. Kiddies, try this experiment at home!

Sooo... I would recommend a hard side case. An old-fashioned briefcase (reinforced with foam padding) or better yet a Pelican case http://www.pelican.com/cases/cases.html . Ohhh yeah!! /Tim Allen: grunt grunt grunt!!/ The 1490 looks good. Yes, they're expensive but compare them to the replacement cost of your notebook.

Personally I can find very little justification for a notebook computer unless you are on-the-job/in-the-field with need to connect daily for work. Otherwise it's a toy. True, I loved my Compaq 386/25 but it passed away and I have learned that my notepad/pen/brain combo is eminently more reliable and hardy. But then again I have yet to submit to a cellphone. Does that make me a Luddite?

Jagd
:: Better to be slain by a dragon than never to have seen one at all.