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Third World Research, Development & Innovation

tovarish writes "It is nice to see that countries like India are trying to research communication techniques in backward and rural areas. While tech savvy people like us enjoy the latest gadgets it is quite a challenge to develop gadgets which actually help the poor and illiterate. While India's satellite launches and outsourcing news are already covered in slashdot umpteen times, sometimes her sensible achievements should be covered too."

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  1. Newsflash!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    India isn't 3rd world

    The Sudan is 3rd world

    1. Re:Newsflash!!! by jbgeorge · · Score: 3, Informative

      As an indian.. let me assure you.. the place you are from might be 3rd world.. but where Im from definitely not 3rd world..

      peace.

    2. Re:Newsflash!!! by pointyhairedmba · · Score: 3, Informative

      India: Over 25% of India's population is under the poverty line. India is 62 out of 221 nations in infant mortality India is 152nd (out of 236 nations in per capita GDP 9.3% of kids in India die before age 5 (54th out of 193 nations) Sudan: Sudan is 52 out of 221 nations in infant mortality Sudan is 186nd (out of 236 nations in per capita GDP 10.7% of kids in Sudan die before age 5 (46th out of 193 nations)

    3. Re:Newsflash!!! by gray+peter · · Score: 3, Informative
      No, you're wrong. That was initially the meaning, but in the 21st century 3rd world refers to "developing" nations, that is, those nations which still have a huge percentage of their population living way way way below the poverty level. India is absolutely 3rd world. Maybe when the rest of the country more closely resembles the developed areas (Bangalore for example...) it will become a first world country, but are you really going to tell us that the average person in India lives at the same level as the average person in Western Europe, Japan, or the USA?

      This reminds me of a conversation I had with an Indian woman at work who came from a very wealthy family (she was the only woman in her class at IIT). She tried to tell me that since the Caste System had been "officially" abolished there no longer *was* a caste system in India. Clearly not the case. The caste system is still very much alive in India, "officially" or not. Kinda like how there is still racism in America even though we've outlawed slavery.

      --
      May no camel spit in your yogurt soup.
  2. Re:Worlds by savagedome · · Score: 3, Informative
  3. Re:Worlds by mOoZik · · Score: 5, Informative

    It goes back to the fifties and was coined by the French Alfred Sauvy, being analogous to the social classes in pre and post-revolution France. The first world is the U.S., Canada, W. Europe, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, etc: they have highly developed economies, relying very little on agriculture, are very industrialized, and I'll venture to say democratic. The second world at the time was the U.S.S.R. and perhaps even E. Europe, depending on how you define it; they were also heavily industrialized. Thus, there no longer is a Second World. And finally, every other country was third world, which are often countries which are rural, not heavily industrialized, and generally poor.

  4. Re:Must be hard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    You need more education on Indian Politics. We DO NOT elect an individual. We elect a party and then it is the decision of the party to field a candidate for the PM's post.

    We also cannot have an un-elected leader so our current PM has to win a seat in either our lower house (Lok Sabha) or the higher house (Rajya Sabha).

    Please keep to the topic.
    We are a democratic country. As for achievements is concerned, here is one - Electronic Voting Machines that was used for our last general elections without any trouble. While a developed democracy is a laughing stock of the world because of its 2000 presidential ballot problems in Florida.

  5. India's space activities, a short summary by asimulator · · Score: 4, Informative

    It appears to me that atleast a section of the slashdot crowd seems to think that satellite launches in India are a recent phenomenon. At the risk of repeating the obvious, let me say that India launched her first satellite back in 1976. And has been launching satellites regularly since. The largest number of them are weather and communication satellites (the INSAT series). There are also remote sensing satellites (the IRS). The INSAT series satisfies all of India's communication transponder needs and some transponders have been leased to other entities, bringing in money. INSATs were largely responsible for the communication revolution India experiences in the mid-80s.

    India also launches satellites meant for polar orbits (the IRS series, for instance) from her own soil, has been for some years now.

    The latest news in India's space program is the launch of a geo-synchronous satellite (Edusat) that seems to have gotten attention at /.

    But that's just the latest news; as I said, India's been in space for nearly 30 years now.

  6. Re:Why does India need hi-tech just to survive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    India:
    Population: 1,065,070,607

    Japan:
    Population: 127,214,499
    (from wikipedia).

    Please keep these facts in mind before saying anything.
    Look at India's huge investment in the space program and nuclear weapons. In 1950, Japan had almost no investment in such wasteful programs. The Japanese were committed to a program of emulating the West and engaging in practical enterprises to raise the standard of living as quickly as possible

    India faced three wars immediately after partition. Two with Pakistan and one with China. Japan didn't face any. Nuclear weapons were a necessity for India.

    India has 21+ different official languages. Japan has one. The space program helped put educational and weather satellites in place. And India now sells satellite launches.

    It's extremely convenient to compare India and Japan, but it's really a wrong comparison.
  7. Re:Must be hard... by Anonymovs+Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    ...and to still expect handouts from first world countries because they're so poor.

    Rubbish. India has been self-sufficient in food since the early 1970s. Some aid for health, education and infrastructure does come in, but even that is mostly loans, not "handouts". American and Japanese aid comes with too many ridiculous strings attached, India learned long ago not to get too entrapped with it. As for the nukes: America was worried about war with a country on the other side of the world. India has gone to war with two countries on its borders, one of whom (China) is truly the 800lb gorilla of Asia with whom there continue to be unresolved border disputes, and is an acknowledged nuclear power. You saying India has less right than the USA to nukes? I don't like nukes either, but let's abolish them all, maybe step by step, rather than say the big five can keep what they have and make more while they're at it.

  8. Re:Stories about India are flamebait by rmanocha · · Score: 3, Informative

    I totally agree here. Never in India's history has India ever seeked or waged a war against another nation in the hopes of enslaving/gainign territory.
    Indians have lived for over 1000 years under foreign rule and yet have managed to maintain their languages, religions, culture and lots more.
    India always was a golden bird, to many people from the persians to the British.
    Hence to label India poor is incorrect, especially since most of it wealth was literally stolen by the British during their 200 years rule over India, a large portion of which was done during the second world war. Many of us feel sad for the holocaust during the WW II. The british have openly condemned this act. However, what they very comfortably manage to ignore is the fact that due to the "stealing" of money from India, over 3.5 million indians died due to starvation between 1942-1943. Some Indian historians have called this the hidden holocaust. Hence, before praising the allied efforts in the war, we might want to check all the history related to war, invloving countries which werent directly related to it.