I think it's pretty clear from the trailer that Ender knows what he's doing. IIRC (I read the book almost 20 years ago) he thinks he's still in training exercises when he's actually in real combat. Maybe the trailer is misleading, but if they have Ender knowing he's in real battle that will change the entire tone of the story. Sort of like they did with Blade Runner vs. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep.
Really? Compared to what? I've been programming java since it came out and I've come across far fewer bugs in the the JDK than I have in any of the other languages that have been around for a similar amount of time (PHP, Perl, etc.)
Of course you haven't "ever personally experienced" it. You're a man.
I agree though, most offices are aware of the issues and try very hard to make women feel welcome in IT.
I think the point is that many geeks don't know how to behave around women and they make them feel alienated. I think this varies from company to company though. I also think the ubiquity of the web and (as another poster pointed out) the need to have female-dominated design and editorial teams working so closely with the (male dominated) development teams some sort of social skills are starting to become much more crucial to success in our field. Hopefully engineering schools will start offering classes in Hygiene 101.
Interesting yet, but I don't think anyone expects 50% of the women to be programmers, and I don't think that your description of the male traits describes most programmers. IMHO, most programmers are NOT aggressive macho types. In fact, they tend to be more like the women your describe... comfortable in small groups, etc.
I think the problem starts long before the asperger tinged misogynistic corporate geek culture kicks in. Think back to your Comp Sci classes. How many women were there? Not so many. "Math is Hard' Barbie has just as much to do with this problem as your "Will Compile for Food" t-shirt. I think the point TBL makes about female programmers being just as guilty as men is especially interesting. I recall back in college, one of our professors was an infamous (female) hacker who literally "wrote the book" on UNIX. (yes, the woman whose name is on the red bible). She was notorious for being EVIL to the few girls who dared to try to take her classes. She probably thought she was doing them a favor by not going easy on them.
By the time it gets to the professional level there really aren't many women to add to the work pool. As a hiring manager I'd say I probably hired a higher % of the females I've interviewed than the men. They tend to be better programmers (since they made it this far without giving up) and yes, I feel like they contribute a "women's perspective" to the products we build. Our users aren't all men, why should the developers be? That said, in 15 years I've hired about 200 people and I think 6 of them were women.
First of all, you forgot the Mac, which as someone else pointed out probably has just as many 3rd party apps using GPL code.
Second of all, there are PLENTY of firms writing proprietary code for linux, most of it VERY expensive. Besides the obvious (Oracle, BEA, IBM) there are a huge number of high end scientific analysis, manufacturing and financial companies doing so.
In urban settings, you definitely run the risk of mob mentality and end up voting for the person less congruent with your views. I.e. you vote for the more popular person in that locality for fear of not conforming with everyone around you.
That's rediculous. You're saying that people in urban areas tend to vote with the popular trend for fear of upsetting our neighbors? That's just false. Do you have ANY evidence to back that up? I live in NYC where people are absolutely FINE disagreeing with each other. I look around and I see Muslim women in full covered dress chatting in the playground with Hasidic women. I'm absolutely positive they have very little in common. I see drag queens standing in line behind wall st. analysts (and maybe even a few wall st. analysts in drag...) I think you have it completely backwards. Urban living promotes tollerance.
The biggest example of "mob mentality" in this country is the religious nut jobs in the south and west who do whatever the heck their church tells them to do for fear of "not conforming with everyone around" them. We simply DO NOT have that in the urban areas. If we disagree with a neighbor we just ignore them. There are plenty more neighbors around to be friendly with. In rural areas you don't have that freedom. If you are labeled a "radical" you're basically toast in your community.
Every single political thread I've seen lately has had some kind of attack on the intelligence of Bush voters, with the implicit or explicit praising of anti-Bush voters.
Well... that's because a large number of Bush voters are COMPLETELY ignorant of the facts.read this
When you lose this big, and this consistently, there is something wrong with your side.
Adding fuel to the stupidity fire. How do you figure we lose "this big"? We won the last election and it was stolen from us. We lost this one by about 1 state... not exactly big, and not exactly consistent either. This must be another example of Republican math...
No, our side usually votes for all of those issues. We are open minded to different belief systems, as long as those belief systems aren't based on eliminating OUR rights! Your belief system is to tell others what to do because your fucking "GOD" said so.
Think about it. Abortion -- we say "do what you need to do". You say "You don't get to choose".
Same sex marriage - we say "do what you want to do". You say: "You can't do that because God says it's evil"
Legalizing pot. we say "do what you want". You say "You can't do that because it's evil (I won't say God says so since he/she didn't)
So who exactly is open minded??
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People are so literal. Jeez... it was an EXAMPLE to illustrate a point. And yea, you're a perverted cunt.
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Sure they do. I still don't have a problem with Pike not answering the question. Someone else said it correctly, HINAL.
That said: take the case of a drug company with a patent on a particular medication for say AIDS (just to choose a disease).
Now say this drug in question cost a whole lot to create and the company wants to recoup their costs. They charge an arm and a leg for the drugs. meanwhile some poor country has a major crisis on their hands with people dying by the thousands. The company won't give up the patent on the drug, and refuses to sell it for a reasonable price to this country. Hundreds of thousands of ppl die because of corporate greed. Now imagine AIDS mutates in this country and become an airborne virus... ok, we're extinct. A patent is to blame.
No, you're wrong. That was initially the meaning, but in the 21st century 3rd world refers to "developing" nations, that is, those nations which still have a huge percentage of their population living way way way below the poverty level. India is absolutely 3rd world. Maybe when the rest of the country more closely resembles the developed areas (Bangalore for example...) it will become a first world country, but are you really going to tell us that the average person in India lives at the same level as the average person in Western Europe, Japan, or the USA?
This reminds me of a conversation I had with an Indian woman at work who came from a very wealthy family (she was the only woman in her class at IIT). She tried to tell me that since the Caste System had been "officially" abolished there no longer *was* a caste system in India. Clearly not the case. The caste system is still very much alive in India, "officially" or not. Kinda like how there is still racism in America even though we've outlawed slavery.
Or maybe just reading too quickly. The question posed is "...how you would develop a post-HTTP/HTML internet?". There's nothing at all wrong with the question, and in fact it most certainly does indicate that the author is distinguishing between the "Internet" and HTTP (HTTP being 1 protocol which happens to run over the Internet).
So instead of trying to prove that you're smarter than the average \.er by playing with semantics, how 'bout putting that noggin to better use and answering the question. Clearly you are an expert on the field in question and must have some good ideas.
My suggestion? Think of a browser-website connection as analagous to a client-server database development. Where is the latency? It's in establishing connections. What if HTTP had connection pooling? Seems like it would speed things up significantly.
No VCs sign NDAs. They read way too many b-plans and signing NDAs would limit their ability to fund new projects. If they had to go back to legal every time they wanted to fund a new business and make sure the idea didn't conflict with any other business they may have an NDA in place with they would never be able to fund anybody.
So I responded to an posting on craigslist for a gig doing some java coding. The guys have a chat bot that drops advertisements into chat rooms on gay.com and yahoochat. Seems that the services changed their protocols and the bots broke.
So I strung them along for a month or so asking for clarification on this and that, gathering requirements etc. etc. Saying I'd start work in a few days, then a few more days.
They blew off the other folks who had bid on the project (they were only offering $500!!) and said they wanted me to do it. So finally after I couldn't stall any longer I sent them an email and basically said "You guys are spammers and I'm not helping you!"
Not sure what you mean by "reliable". My mini was perfectly reliable 'till I dropped my bag and the screen cracked. Those suckers are expensive to fix, but I'm fixin' it 'cuz my mini rocks.
What design flaws are you interested in?
Yes you can play MP3s on a PDA, but can you store practically your entire MP3 collection on your PDA? My Sony Clie plays MP3s, but it can only hold a couple albums worth of music (depending on which memory stick you put in there) and the interface for the music player is nowhere near as slick as the ipods.
Using the ipod with itunes is stupid simple as well.
I give the ipod and itunes 4/4 apples.
Maybe a better analogy would be a painter who only has 1 bristle. You can paint the side of a building with 1 bristle, but it would take you a really really long time. That doesn't mean you couldn't do it. You can do anything in assembler if you put your mind to it (and if your mind is good enough;-)
Bah.
That's just silliness. Next thing you're going to tell me that PHP is sooooooo much better.
There's a reason there are so many java server apps out there --- they work!
Who says it's too slow? That may have been true 5 or 6 years ago, but have you tried it lately? 9/10 of the time any sufficiently complex java application will run perfectly fast. It's usually poor programming that makes code run slow, not the VM.
Agreed that it's a great feature. I use collections all the time and not only is it time consuming to keep casting (especially when you write out long class names like I do...) I'd say a huge % of my runtime errors are from bad casting. I'm definitely looking forward to this. As far as the bytecode specs go, I don't see that this will cause much change at all. The compiler should do the same thing it's always done.
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I think it's pretty clear from the trailer that Ender knows what he's doing. IIRC (I read the book almost 20 years ago) he thinks he's still in training exercises when he's actually in real combat. Maybe the trailer is misleading, but if they have Ender knowing he's in real battle that will change the entire tone of the story. Sort of like they did with Blade Runner vs. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep.
Agree, there's nothing clean about biomass fuel. Fine, the nuts with the oil fields won't get our money but we all still die.
Really? Compared to what? I've been programming java since it came out and I've come across far fewer bugs in the the JDK than I have in any of the other languages that have been around for a similar amount of time (PHP, Perl, etc.)
Come on now, who fingers anybody anymore. So 80s....
Of course you haven't "ever personally experienced" it. You're a man. I agree though, most offices are aware of the issues and try very hard to make women feel welcome in IT. I think the point is that many geeks don't know how to behave around women and they make them feel alienated. I think this varies from company to company though. I also think the ubiquity of the web and (as another poster pointed out) the need to have female-dominated design and editorial teams working so closely with the (male dominated) development teams some sort of social skills are starting to become much more crucial to success in our field. Hopefully engineering schools will start offering classes in Hygiene 101.
Interesting yet, but I don't think anyone expects 50% of the women to be programmers, and I don't think that your description of the male traits describes most programmers. IMHO, most programmers are NOT aggressive macho types. In fact, they tend to be more like the women your describe... comfortable in small groups, etc. I think the problem starts long before the asperger tinged misogynistic corporate geek culture kicks in. Think back to your Comp Sci classes. How many women were there? Not so many. "Math is Hard' Barbie has just as much to do with this problem as your "Will Compile for Food" t-shirt. I think the point TBL makes about female programmers being just as guilty as men is especially interesting. I recall back in college, one of our professors was an infamous (female) hacker who literally "wrote the book" on UNIX. (yes, the woman whose name is on the red bible). She was notorious for being EVIL to the few girls who dared to try to take her classes. She probably thought she was doing them a favor by not going easy on them. By the time it gets to the professional level there really aren't many women to add to the work pool. As a hiring manager I'd say I probably hired a higher % of the females I've interviewed than the men. They tend to be better programmers (since they made it this far without giving up) and yes, I feel like they contribute a "women's perspective" to the products we build. Our users aren't all men, why should the developers be? That said, in 15 years I've hired about 200 people and I think 6 of them were women.
First of all, you forgot the Mac, which as someone else pointed out probably has just as many 3rd party apps using GPL code.
Second of all, there are PLENTY of firms writing proprietary code for linux, most of it VERY expensive. Besides the obvious (Oracle, BEA, IBM) there are a huge number of high end scientific analysis, manufacturing and financial companies doing so.
That's rediculous. You're saying that people in urban areas tend to vote with the popular trend for fear of upsetting our neighbors? That's just false. Do you have ANY evidence to back that up? I live in NYC where people are absolutely FINE disagreeing with each other. I look around and I see Muslim women in full covered dress chatting in the playground with Hasidic women. I'm absolutely positive they have very little in common. I see drag queens standing in line behind wall st. analysts (and maybe even a few wall st. analysts in drag...) I think you have it completely backwards. Urban living promotes tollerance.
The biggest example of "mob mentality" in this country is the religious nut jobs in the south and west who do whatever the heck their church tells them to do for fear of "not conforming with everyone around" them. We simply DO NOT have that in the urban areas. If we disagree with a neighbor we just ignore them. There are plenty more neighbors around to be friendly with. In rural areas you don't have that freedom. If you are labeled a "radical" you're basically toast in your community.
Well... that's because a large number of Bush voters are COMPLETELY ignorant of the facts.read this
Adding fuel to the stupidity fire. How do you figure we lose "this big"? We won the last election and it was stolen from us. We lost this one by about 1 state... not exactly big, and not exactly consistent either. This must be another example of Republican math...
Think about it. Abortion -- we say "do what you need to do". You say "You don't get to choose".
Same sex marriage - we say "do what you want to do". You say: "You can't do that because God says it's evil"
Legalizing pot. we say "do what you want". You say "You can't do that because it's evil (I won't say God says so since he/she didn't)
So who exactly is open minded??
Sure they do. I still don't have a problem with Pike not answering the question. Someone else said it correctly, HINAL.
That said: take the case of a drug company with a patent on a particular medication for say AIDS (just to choose a disease).
Now say this drug in question cost a whole lot to create and the company wants to recoup their costs. They charge an arm and a leg for the drugs. meanwhile some poor country has a major crisis on their hands with people dying by the thousands. The company won't give up the patent on the drug, and refuses to sell it for a reasonable price to this country. Hundreds of thousands of ppl die because of corporate greed. Now imagine AIDS mutates in this country and become an airborne virus... ok, we're extinct. A patent is to blame.
This reminds me of a conversation I had with an Indian woman at work who came from a very wealthy family (she was the only woman in her class at IIT). She tried to tell me that since the Caste System had been "officially" abolished there no longer *was* a caste system in India. Clearly not the case. The caste system is still very much alive in India, "officially" or not. Kinda like how there is still racism in America even though we've outlawed slavery.
Who said they were limiting it to a good agenda? Kind of like the Time Man of the Year. Plenty of the winners have not been good men, just powerful...
So instead of trying to prove that you're smarter than the average \.er by playing with semantics, how 'bout putting that noggin to better use and answering the question. Clearly you are an expert on the field in question and must have some good ideas.
My suggestion? Think of a browser-website connection as analagous to a client-server database development. Where is the latency? It's in establishing connections. What if HTTP had connection pooling? Seems like it would speed things up significantly.
So I strung them along for a month or so asking for clarification on this and that, gathering requirements etc. etc. Saying I'd start work in a few days, then a few more days.
They blew off the other folks who had bid on the project (they were only offering $500!!) and said they wanted me to do it. So finally after I couldn't stall any longer I sent them an email and basically said "You guys are spammers and I'm not helping you!"
Play songs == Browse and then push the 1 button when it's over the song/album/playlist you want
Adjust volume == spin the little wheel around clockwise or counterclockwise (I'll let you figure out which is which).
Not sure what you mean by "reliable". My mini was perfectly reliable 'till I dropped my bag and the screen cracked. Those suckers are expensive to fix, but I'm fixin' it 'cuz my mini rocks. What design flaws are you interested in? Yes you can play MP3s on a PDA, but can you store practically your entire MP3 collection on your PDA? My Sony Clie plays MP3s, but it can only hold a couple albums worth of music (depending on which memory stick you put in there) and the interface for the music player is nowhere near as slick as the ipods. Using the ipod with itunes is stupid simple as well. I give the ipod and itunes 4/4 apples.
Maybe a better analogy would be a painter who only has 1 bristle. You can paint the side of a building with 1 bristle, but it would take you a really really long time. That doesn't mean you couldn't do it. You can do anything in assembler if you put your mind to it (and if your mind is good enough ;-)
Bah. That's just silliness. Next thing you're going to tell me that PHP is sooooooo much better. There's a reason there are so many java server apps out there --- they work!
Who says it's too slow? That may have been true 5 or 6 years ago, but have you tried it lately? 9/10 of the time any sufficiently complex java application will run perfectly fast. It's usually poor programming that makes code run slow, not the VM.
bad url?
Agreed that it's a great feature. I use collections all the time and not only is it time consuming to keep casting (especially when you write out long class names like I do...) I'd say a huge % of my runtime errors are from bad casting. I'm definitely looking forward to this. As far as the bytecode specs go, I don't see that this will cause much change at all. The compiler should do the same thing it's always done.