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Judge's Ruling Spares 1-Click

theodp writes "Agreeing with Amazon's characterization of its 1-Click feature as a feature of an electronic product ordering system and not an electronic fund transfer or transaction system, a Judge has tossed out a $50M lawsuit that threatened Amazon's 1-Click patent. But outside of Court, Amazon touts its patent-pending Amazon Honor System as a way for Web sites to use 1-Click shopping technology for voluntary payment transactions - most notably for 9-11 donations and campaign contributions - that do not involve consumer goods or Amazon-specified prices, which the Judge argues are essential 1-Click ingredients."

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  1. This is what happens when... by DAldredge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is what happens when you are the ones who give the whores in DC money to write laws and regs for you.

    Large companies in the US are not held to the same standard as others are.

  2. Re:but... by Daengbo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Regretfully, what happens in civil court doesn't orften reflect the outside world. I think another suit will have to be filed with Amazon's claims as part of the complaint for them to be taken seriously and the patent thrown out (or at least clarified).

  3. One-click shopping by memodude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How can a company patent one-click shopping? If you think about it, one-click shopping is just a system for storing credit card info and address info in an account, then facilitating purchases without requiring to enter that info again. Software patents are just pathetic.

    1. Re:One-click shopping by stinerman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Indeed, how is it different from clicking submit when I complete this post?

      The /. servers store my username, preference settings, etc. I only have to login the one time to my account so I can single-click the submit button to post my statement.

    2. Re:One-click shopping by Dashing+Leech · · Score: 4, Insightful
      How can a company patent one-click shopping? If you think about it, one-click shopping is just a system for ...

      You objection seems to be that such a system is obvious. I wholeheartedly agree with you there. There are rules against patenting the obvious, and things like this seem to be slipping through. However, then you say:

      Software patents are just pathetic.

      It's not clear how the former justifies the latter statement. The patent on 1-Click appears to violate the existing rules for patents on obviousness. There are also plenty of non-software patents that violate such rules (playing with a cat using a laser pointer, the combover, etc.). So how does any of this show that software patents in particular are pathetic? Or was it a non-sequitor?

    3. Re:One-click shopping by Sebby · · Score: 4, Insightful
      So how does any of this show that software patents in particular are pathetic?

      The other non-sw patents you mention are simply ridiculous. Software patents are pathetic since they are purposly broadly written so that pretty much anything done with a computer (even if it already exists in the non-software world) will infringe. That's pathetic.

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  4. Pay the judge... by akabigbro · · Score: 4, Funny

    When you have the money, just pay the judge off. It's the american way.

  5. Re:but... by stinerman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Interesting, but you must realize:

    Devising a 2-click shopping mechanism is simply the 1-click mechanism two times. Now you're in violation twice.

  6. Re:but... by davesplace1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Some of these patents are way out there. I like to shop at Amazon, but a one click patent, come on? It reminds of that company that tryed to patent linking, now that would have killed the internet, crazy.

  7. So... by marktaw.com · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This ruling doesn't actually say that 1 click ordering is a good and just patent, it just says that it doesn't infringe on another similar patent, is that correct?

    In other words, if someone else were to implement 1 click ordering, and Amazon sued them, this case would have no bearing on that one.

  8. Patenting the act of programming???? by 3seas · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Programming is the act of automating the use of complexity, usually made up of simpler complexities, so to enable the use and reuse of the complexity by the user of that complexity, easy.

    There is a world of prior art here, going back even before computers were invented, to the initial use of abstractions to express a more complex thought.

  9. This is slly by AvitarX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Even if one-click was leitimate (which O'reilly said it very well may be) the honor system is definatly not non-obvious building on the first. So the honor system certainly shouldn't pass.

    PS, I think software patents are bad, but in the framework that they are legel there is a case to be made for one-click.

    I am more pissed that software patents tend to patent ideas and not implementations (the source code). If a software patent required the code to the application, whch would then become public domain it would make a lot more sense.

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  10. Mutter, mutter by jd · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Amazon "wins" by telling the judge the one-click stuff is for one thing, but tells the public it's for another. I thought lying to a judge was contempt of court. And if they didn't lie to the judge, then they're lying to their consumers, which is false advertising and possibly fraud.


    I don't see how any company thinks it can win by trying to pull this kind of stunt. Well, other than by the fact that companies usually do win by pulling this kind of stunt, because nobody really pursues it, since they expect the company to lie through their teeth anyway.


    That, I think, is the biggest problem. Because nobody expects a business to have any integrity, they don't do anything when that proves to be the case. If you want better, sometimes you've got to believe you deserve better and do something about it.

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  11. Patents... by Swedentom · · Score: 5, Funny

    First Microsoft filed a patent for double-clicking, and now Amazon has a single-click patent. Geez!

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  12. Welcome to Reality by serutan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Surprise! Your 9th grade social studies book was wrong. America is not a Democracy, and it's not a Republic either. It's an Oligarchy disguised as one or the other. People like Jeff Bezos aren't merely above the law, they get to surf on it.

    1. Re:Welcome to Reality by tindur · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A republic can be an oligarchy.

  13. I've already got a better system... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've already got a better method. I've patented 0-click shopping. If you mouseover anything in my store, you buy it. I've placed all the popular items in the center of the pages with the overpriced crap around it.

    Combined with my no-return policy, business is booming!

  14. Zero-Click Shopping by Servo5678 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm suddenly reminded of the Dilbert comic where Dogbert explains that he has patented "zero-click shopping" and that if Dilbert doesn't click the mouse soon, Dogbert will have to ship him some books.

  15. Heh by Mephie · · Score: 4, Insightful
    And yet, still, virtually every time a slashdotter posts a link to a book it's an amazon.com link.

    Look, if you're so outraged by Bezos and his stupid fucking patents, STOP SHOPPING AMAZON and STOP ENCOURAGING OTHERS TO DO SO. Might I recommend bn.com or, God forbid, get off your ass and drive to your local Mom and Pop bookstore? The latter is almost certainly more deserving of your loyalty than is Amazon.