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SLiK812 writes "The NYTimes is running a story about how marketing companies are using neuroscience to determine how to reach a consumer's buy button more efficiently. A quote from the article, 'At issue is whether marketers can exploit advances in brain science to make more effective commercials. Is there a "buy button" in the brain? Some corporations have teamed up with neuroscientists to find out. Recent experiments in so-called neuromarketing have explored reactions to movie trailers, choices about automobiles, the appeal of a pretty face and gut reactions to political campaign advertising, as well as the power of brand loyalty.' Some groups have branded this as Orwellian. I pretty sure I saw the child of this tactic in Futurama somewhere." There's a related story in the The Independent. We've had previous stories on using MRI scans to market products.

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  1. futurama by dark_requiem · · Score: 5, Funny

    Leela: Didn't you have ads in the 21st century?" Fry: Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games... and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts, and bananas and written on the sky. But not in dreams, no siree.

  2. Orwellian? by Bingo+Foo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Folks, it's not Orwellian unless it is backed by a totalitarian state. Most of your fears would be better directed at a Huxleyan future.

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    taken! (by Davidleeroth) Thanks Bingo Foo!
    1. Re:Orwellian? by Jtheletter · · Score: 5, Informative
      Folks, it's not Orwellian unless it is backed by a totalitarian state. Most of your fears would be better directed at a Huxleyan future.

      Heh, most of your readers would be better directed at a dictionary. ;)

      Incidentally, for those like myself who haven't heard of this term, here you go.
      Don't say I never gave ya nothing.

      (excerpted from here) "What [Thomas] Huxley teaches is that in the age of advanced technology, spiritual devastation is more likely to come from an enemy with a smiling face than from one whose countenance exudes suspicion and hate. In the Huxleyan prophecy, Big Brother does not watch us, by his choice. We watch him, by ours. There is no need for wardens or gates or Ministries of Truth. When a population becomes distracted by trivia, when cultural life is redefined as a perpetual round of entertainments, when serious public conversation becomes a form of baby-talk, when, in short, a people become an audience and their public business a vaudeville act, then a nation finds itself at risk; culture-death is a clear possibility"

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      -- I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist. It's not my fault that life sucks so much. --
  3. More than a buy-button by fembots · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't think a brain analysis is an effective way to determine consumer behaviour.

    Our behaviour is most likely shaped by the environment and condition we're experiencing.

    Truth to be told, any sports car will trigger my buy-button, but can I afford to buy it?

    1. Re:More than a buy-button by wattersa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Truth to be told, any sports car will trigger my buy-button, but can I afford to buy it?

      "Thanks to our low introductory APR, you can!"

      "Thought you couldn't own a Benz? Think again!"

      "Let BMW Certified Preowned vehicles find you the car of your dreams...at a practical price!"

      This is a science-- note that in the radio ads they never tell you what the APR is unless it's "zero percent" or close to it. They make you want the item with positive images and thoughts and they defer the "bad news" as long as possible until the very end of the transaction, after you've decided you want the item so even if you know you probably can't afford it, someone will "work with you" (with you, not on you, lol) to establish a sense of rapport that will make you think you're getting a good deal. Even if you back out, there's some hapless sucker who won't. Despite decades of study and improved learning techniques, human nature hasn't changed all that much.

  4. Neuroscience to determine buying 'buttons' by grunt107 · · Score: 4, Funny

    To make guys buy: Gorgeous women implying the purchase of a product makes said guy more attractive.

    To make women buy: "Sale"

  5. Re:Subliminal messaging? by Da+Fokka · · Score: 5, Informative
    That's an urban legend. See Snopes.

    Quote:
    You see, Vicary lied about the results of his experiment. When he was challenged to repeat the test by the president of the Psychological Corporation, Dr. Henry Link, Vicary's duplication of his original experiment produced no significant increase in popcorn or Coca-Cola sales. Eventually Vicary confessed that he had falsified the data from his first experiments, and some critics have since expressed doubts that he actually conducted his infamous Ft. Lee experiment at all.

  6. Let's not overreact... by katsiris · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This is hardly a new thing. Marketing firms have been using psychology as a tool for developing more effective ads since the stone age. Neuroscience is just an extension of what they know about what people respond to, I don't think it's any reason to be concerned.

    In the end, you either have control over your urges, wants, and needs, or you don't. You either are in control of yourself or you're not. If you're not, then you've probably accrued all sorts of gadgets, toys, and things you don't really need. And doubtless you have/had sex with anyone that got you remotely excited. Actually, that doesn't sound so bad...

    Really, though, we are either in control of our faculties or we are not. If we're not, then we're just animals with no will. If we are, then this is no more concerning then someone plucking your heart strings to sell insurance. I highly doubt there is some subversive way they can force us to buy against our will using some sort of deep-seated neurological button. A shopping spree isn't exactly a survival mechanism.

  7. If these companies by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Funny

    Put a metric shitload of money in my bank account they would find my buy button pretty quickly.

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    Do not try to read the dupe, thats impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth
    What truth?
    There is no dupe
  8. Not more advertising, LESS advertising by Lispy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wonder if I am the only one who feels he has been watching less ads in the last few years than ever before in my life. I now own a HD-based videorecorder that allows me to skip ads. What's more I feel my TV-consumption is at an alltime low due to crappy programming and the PC as a competitor. Although I find myself in need of a Robo-Cola from time to time. ;-)

    Online I use Firefox with Adblock so I hardly read any ads on the web, ever.
    I switched to Linux three years ago and my daily dose of desktop advertising (ICQ, Splashscreens, branded bootscreens) went down to zero.

    While I am on the outside (beware) I am mostly reading books or listening to commercial-break-free MP3 music (during subway rides or on the bus) and when I am out at night I try to avoid "the hip joint (TM)" where all those guerilla-marketing groups show up. I prefer small, subculture clubs with decent pricing and good music (including hot AND smart girls).

    So, I guess I am much less under the commercial thumb then I was back in 1995...

  9. Much better Futurama by Jerf · · Score: 4, Funny
    Sorry, but this one is much more on topic. (Think about how one would create such a ball if you don't quite get why.)
    Fry: I just saw something incredibly cool. A big floating ball that lit up with every colour of the rainbow, plus some new ones that were so beautiful I fell to my knees and cried.

    Amy: Was it out in front of Discount Shoe Outlet?

    Fry: Yeah.

    Amy: They have a college kid wear that to attract customers.

    Fry: Well I don't care if it was some dork in a costume. For one brief moment I felt the heartbeat of creation. And it was one with my own.

    Amy: Big deal.

    Bender: We all feel like that all the time. You don't hear us gassin' on about it.
    3ACV15, "I Dated A Robot"
  10. on the plus side... by wattersa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One aspect of marketing/advertising/design is ergonomics and human factors, which helps advertisers structure their materials in the most logical fashion for the way people process information. Just look at any cover of Cosmopolitan and you'll see the end result of years of studies of the scanning people do when they see a document. Important elements seem to jump out at you without you even realizing it, and if you have time you can read the smaller text under each element to find out more. Cosmo, ironically, probably has one of the best-designed magazine covers. Color, layout, subject matter ("SEX" or related words are the lead/top priority item on every cover) and other design elements are used to great effect. The end result is that you look at the magazine, your eye traverses multiple times across the impossibly beautiful woman whose style (if you're a woman) you want to emulate and you then want to buy it, or you don't want to buy it because you don't really read Cosmo. This is why they sell them in checkout lines-- they're an impulse item for non-subscribers. Same thing with Maxim, Playboy, and other glossy magazines.

    Compare a well-designed magazine cover like Cosmo with an ugly or poorly designed cover like TV Guide or Hot Rod magazine and you'll see who has the best understanding of human factors. Cosmo is pleasant to look at, "Guns" magazine really isn't, even if you are an enthusiast.

    I for one welcome our new human factor-embracing overlords-- as long as they don't beam ads into my head.