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How Cheap Can A PC Be?

geoff lane writes "Ballmer wants a $100 computer. OK, can we build a reasonable PC for just $100 and a copy of Linux? The rules are: It's assumed that a monitor, keyboard and mouse are already available. Ethernet connectivity must be provided. All components must already have Linux support. All components must be new and currently available. The result must be electrically safe for the home. Is it possible?"

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  1. the Xbox by WormholeFiend · · Score: 5, Funny

    is at 149$... no dice with that suggestion I guess.

  2. Re:Dump... by avalys · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, and the rat you find living inside the case can become a new family pet!

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  3. Sounds like a Best Buy/Comp USA employee... by beejay54 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ahh yes. Word processing, better get a top of the line box for that. Maybe set up a striped array, dual displays, and a couple of gigs of RAM minimum. Oh and you'll need to buy the latest version of M$ Office, oh and make sure you get the 'professional' version, cause the other versions don't have the advanced features you'll need, like 'undo'. Oh and did I mention there is a manufacturers rebate included in the price, so you'll have to pay $500 at the checkout today but if you fill out the forms immaculately you should get a rebate for the remaining $400 sometime next year. Thanks for shopping with us!

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    1. Re:Sounds like a Best Buy/Comp USA employee... by gcaseye6677 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't forget the Best Buy Profit Protection Plan. Oh, I mean the Product Protection Plan, silly me. It's only 60% of the purchase price and covers almost nothing, but you wouldn't want that thing to break down now would you?

    2. Re:Sounds like a Best Buy/Comp USA employee... by Caseyscrib · · Score: 4, Funny

      Homer: Umm ... I guess I'll take that one.
      Salesman: Well, do you need a paperweight? 'Cause if you buy
      that machine, that's all you're going to have, an
      expensive paperweight.
      Homer: Well, a paperweight would be nice, but what I really
      need is a computer. How about that one? [points to
      a second machine]
      Salesman: That technology is three months old. Only suckers
      buy out-of-date machines. You're not a sucker, are
      you sir?
      Homer: Heavens no!
      Salesman: Oh good, because if you were, I'd have to ask you to
      leave the store.
      Homer: I just need something to receive email.
      Salesman: [whistles] You'll need a top-of-the-line machine for
      that. [shows Homer a top-of-the-budget machine]
      That's the same computer astronauts use to do their
      taxes.
      Homer: I was an astronaut.
      Salesman: Of course you were.
      -- "The Computer Wore Menace Shoes"

      % Homer looks at the price tag -- $5,000 -- and does a spit-take
      % (first drinking a cup of coffee so he'll have something to spit).
      % Assured by the sales man that this machine "is the best computer in
      % the world and always will be," Homer agrees to the deal, running his
      % deed through a scanner to take out his fifth mortgage.
      %
      % Homer drags his new toy home behind the car.

      Homer: Hey Lisa! Check out my new computer!
      Lisa: Dad! You shouldn't drag that around!
      Homer: [laughs] That's right, top-of-the-line.
      [the car hits large pothole, Homer bangs his head on the
      roof of the car]
      Stupid pothole. Don't worry, head. The computer will do
      our thinking now.

  4. Case? What Case? by colonslashslash · · Score: 3, Funny
    Even for word processing, you will need a decent size ram, hard drive, motherboard, ethernet port, case.

    Cases are for whimps! ;)

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  5. Balmer by Traa · · Score: 4, Funny

    Balmer wants a $100 computer.
    You would think he would be able to afford something better then that...Microsoft having problems?

    ;-)

  6. Re:You know, we did word processing before... by archen · · Score: 4, Funny

    My first computer was a .00001Khz Royal Typewriter. It had two keys, a one and a zero. If you wanted to reformat the disk, you dipped the paper in white-out =P

  7. Re:Sacrifice hardware for the good of software? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why should the hardware profits be sacrificed to support high software prices?

    You clearly don't understand economics. Hardware is like a public good -- you have to pay a certain amount upfront to design and build the hardware, but then the cost for helping each user becomes trivial. The marginal cost of hardware marketing is so low that the hardware makers are really price-gouging by charging us $1000 for a PC.

    By contrast, software (like MS Windows) has to be carefully customized for your hardware. Adding a 128mb DIMM? Well, then Bill Gates is gonna have to recompile the user interface. Want to move the mouse across the screen? Bill will have to manually edit the binary codes in your kernel. Of course, no two users have the same amount of memory. And all these things like moving the mouse or typing or sending an IP packet... this is what makes the user experience unique. So Bill's work for one user doesn't help any of the other users. That's a lot of stress for Bill, and it naturally keeps the marginal cost of software very high.

    So, I ask: why are PC's so expensive? How can we reduce the cost and get PC's to poor people? The software cost reflects a labor-intensive process, and it can't be reduced. Hardware is a public good, so the expense must come from price-gouging by the hardware makers. Therefore, to enable the poor people of the world to catch up with current technolgy, we must tell those over-priced Taiwanese hardware makers to stop ripping us off. (Why, I even heard that FIC makes more than $1 profit off each motherboard. That's outrageous!)

    Maybe you should read an economics textbook.

  8. Re:Dump... by servognome · · Score: 5, Funny

    NOOOOO put him back in his wheel, the rat is actually the power supply.

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  9. Re:Sacrifice hardware for the good of software? by nathanh · · Score: 5, Funny
    Have you priced Office 2003 lately? Absolutely REDICULOUS pricing model MS has.

    But Office 2003 comes with a spellchecker. Could be the best investment you've ever made.

  10. Re:Computers are FREE by servognome · · Score: 4, Funny

    You wouldn't happen to wear a green jacket with a bunch of question marks on it would you?

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  11. Pah, you're wasting money. by Tatarize · · Score: 4, Funny


    $21 Rosewill 184-Pin 128MB DDR PC-3200, Model RW400/128 - Retail
    $26 PCChips "M811LU" KT266A Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL
    $10.75 POWMAX 320W Power Supply for Intel and AMD systems Model "VP-320ATX" -RETAIL
    $41 AMD Athlon 1.33 GHz, 266MHz FSB, 256K Cache Processor - OEM

    Total: $98.75

    Quick notes, I didn't buy a case so don't step on it. Also, I didn't buy a heatsink or fan so it'll only run for about 12 seconds. Also, you need to boot off the lan. Also, you won't be able to see anything, and not because the processor poofed, but also it has no video card.


    For full good system, I did it once for about 220 bucks. Harddrives and cases pah! Who needs them. My system will turn on for $98.75!

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  12. Re:You know, we did word processing before... by HohlerMann · · Score: 5, Funny

    My first computer was a rock. To partition, you dropped it from a cliff.

  13. Re:Word for XBox. by mabinogi · · Score: 3, Funny

    That sounds like a great idea!

    We could make it boot right up into BASIC with a soothing blue coloured screen if there's no disk there.

    2005, the year of LOAD *,8,1

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  14. Re:Sacrifice hardware for the good of software? by mike3411 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ridiculous + Redmond = Rediculous

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  15. Re:Agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Pfff! I don't need no stinking RAM. I mentally memorize the one and zeros.

  16. Re:Reasonable Computer by Mr+Smidge · · Score: 4, Funny

    Typing this on a 21 inch monitor

    I tend to find that monitors are better off as displays, rather than input devices..

  17. Re:$100 PC... and some great old ideas by yerfatma · · Score: 5, Funny
    I'm ok with developers' machines being booted, since they stay up 27/7 anyway.

    Obviously you work at the same place I do.