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Nissan Exhibits IEEE 1394-Compatible Car

Dirak writes "High-speed IEEE 1394 optical fiber networks have gone off-road with new Nissan's prototype vehicle demonstrated this year's at 11th World Congress on Intelligent Transport Systems. The prototype is equipped with 7 cameras on the body and a 12-inch LCD monitor in the front and another in the rear seat area. Thanks to the in-vehicle IEEE 1394 LAN, which is capable of high-speed communications at 400Mbps via optical cable, the front and the rear seat monitors can display various information simultaneously, for example. The application of optical fiber also means that the weight of the cables can be reduced to about one-half the weight of a conventional wiring harness."

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  1. Big Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I mean, seriously, whats so special?

    Optical in a car? So? We've had cables in a car for quite some time. We've had monitors in a car for quite some time. We've even had internet in a car for quite some time. Whats so special?

    We've moved to communicating 1394 with light wires?? Hurray.

    No offense, but why is this "stuff that matters"?? Or is it just "news for nerds"?

    1. Re:Big Wow. by Digital_Quartz · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The article is quite light on details; is it just video sent over the firewire link, or is all car data sent by firewire? If it's the later, this could be quite an improvement. If you've ever had to pull out and reinstall a wiring harness, then you know you average car has 8 bazillion wires in it, all of which are unlabeled aside from some obscure color code. A single firewire jack on everything that needs data would be WAY nicer...

      Of course, I doubt you could pull the requisite 15W to power brake lights from a firewire port. :P

  2. Re:Usefulness by HeliosTrick · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How about number 6? 6. Playing high-speed driving games instead of actually driving. Actually though, your number 5 is already in existance. I had a '97 Pontiac Bonneville with a low spray tank level warning. I think with that much bandwidth though, there's no reason a car could be sensored out to the max. If only they'd toss on a mode so you could see what the check engine light really is...

  3. Reality check people... by Indy+Media+Watch · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Before we get too excited about weight reductions, increased technology or bragging rights, let's remember something.

    Air-conditioning, power-steering and even ABS still aren't standard despite costing next to nothing at build time and being about as essential as you could get.

    Manufacturers need to cripple cheaper cars to somehow justify the extra $100k plus you can spend on higher-end models. Otherwise people start saying why does this car cost twice as much when it isn't twice the car?

    I suspect it will be a long time before we see this sort of thing in wide use.

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    Indy Media Watch-Proctologist of the Internet

  4. Re:Cable Weight by pchan- · · Score: 3, Interesting

    before in car networks, when you had to run a cable from the driver-side window switch to every window in the car, vehicles had somewhere near 20 miles (!) of cables inside. today, class two networks, such as CAN, MOST, and this firewire thing, have taken over alot of the functionality, replacing dumb control wires with protocol messages and microcontrollers. did you know that in a modern high end gm vehicle, and similarly in a mercedes, you can now control every non-critical component (windows, headlights, air conditioner, wipers, radio, ...) from a single lan? MOST even carries audio data from your CD changer over the same network. we're talking literally hundreds of pounds saved, especially in large and feature-full vehicles.

  5. I want separate wiring by davidwr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When it comes to operational and safety components, I want things on their own subsystems. That means one set of wires for the brake lights, one set of wires for antilock brake control, one set of wires for the fuel tank level indicator, etc. etc.

    If something gets in the wiring, I'd rather it knock out half my electrical than all of it. I'd also like key systems to be isolated from non-key systems. If my headlights develop a short and the wires overheat and melt, I don't want the wires leading to my starter motor to melt too.

    Now, when it comes to entertainment, like radio, dvd player, etc., or comfort items, like climate control or the map lights, do whatever's cheapest to build, cheapest to repair, least likely to fail (bearing in mind that some wiring designs create single points of multiple failure).

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    Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
  6. Boycott Nissan! by reflector · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Nissan Motors has been for many years trying to bully and harass a small business owner by the name of Mr. Nissan, who registered nissan.com for his computer company, before Nissan Motors had ever considered having a web presence.
    Nissan Motors was stupid and slow, but they felt that by paying enough money to lawyers to harass this small business owner, they could intimidate him into handing over what did not belong to them, the nissan.com domain.
    This is a well-known and unfortunate story, it's been featured on TechTV and other places, more info here:
    http://www.ncchelp.org/The_Story/the_story. htm

    Even though my last car was a Nissan, I decided I won't be buying from them again after learning of their behavior.

    I urge you to boycott Nissan, and to write to Nissan motors exlaining to them that you don't support corporate thuggishness.