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PSP Pricing, Battery Life Announced

zmcnulty writes "The day has finally come: Over at TechJapan, we've got a translation of a Japanese BB Watch article stating that Sony has announced the Playstation Portable will cost 20,790 yen (about $195 USD) and is to be released on December 12th. Also, the battery life is quoted as being 4 to 6 hours. Not exactly what I'd call fantastic, but at this price, looks like Nintendo is in for some serious competition. Free your doubts about software too, as Sony has announced 21 titles will be released in December as well. Here's the official Japanese PDF press release regarding the PSP's release."

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  1. Battery Life by Tom7 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just remember that 4-6 hours really means 2-3 hours.

    1. Re:Battery Life by chrismcdirty · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Really. 4-6 hours with minimal disc-spinning. On a game where the disc is constantly streaming to reduce load times -- or a movie -- you'll probably get 1-3 hours if you're lucky.

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    2. Re:Battery Life by SetupWeasel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't forget that any game that uses Wi-Fi will chew up a lot more energy.

    3. Re:Battery Life by wheany · · Score: 4, Informative

      From the press release:

      PSP features an integrated high output lithium-ion battery that provides play time of between 4 and 6 hours for game titles and continuous 4 to 5 hours for video viewing. (SCEI actual measurement) [...] Measurement conditions: display luminance set to maximum (180 cd/m2) and minimum (80 cd/m2) while volume is set to half of the maximum level, headphone in use and wireless LAN not in use.

    4. Re:Battery Life by Dogers · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A more important question...
      How long does it take to CHARGE?

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    5. Re:Battery Life by NonSequor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Battery life estimates are always complete fabrications. I don't care if they do claim this is the result of actual tests rather than wishful thinking. I've never owned any battery powered device that met the manufacturer's battery life estimates.

      Dividing the estimate by two is usually pretty close to the actual battery life, but it can be worse than that.

      I doubt that the DS will live up to its battery life estimate either. We'll have to see how both of them perform when they come out.

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    6. Re:Battery Life by TLSPRWR · · Score: 3, Interesting

      For the original GBA, unless they gave an estimate of around 40 hours, that divide by two theory doesn't work. On their website, they have it listed as a battery life of 15 hours, though I've had a GBA last almost 24 hours on a single pair of AA batteries (volume off and on about half the time, no screen lighting). That's playing it about 30 minutes to an hour almost every day, and not having to change the batteries but once (or perhaps twice) a month.

      I'm not sure about the GBASP, but I'm sure it gets over the 18 hours (without backlight) that they predict. Nintendo always gives estimates about battery life that are lower than reality, it seems. If Nintedo says '6 to 10 hours' I believe them.

      Just my $0.02

    7. Re:Battery Life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Posting anonymously since my company is under NDA (though I'm not personally working with this device).

      Sony's requirements allow spinning the disk only during level loading and not during gameplay. It seems reasonable that they will relax this if you can pull something incredible off, but expect most games to make minimal use of streaming.

  2. I think by MarkVVV · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I will wait until someone test this out to check real battery life.

    1. Re:I think by The+Desert+Palooka · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I agree... Nintendo seems to have a tendency to underquote the actual battery and range of things... Like the wavebird, as mentioned before, they say it has 20 ft of range, in reality it has 90ft... Also they only say something is a feature when it's in there rock solid... Basically they seem to go Worst Case, Sony, in my experience, seems to go Best Case... and then pull back the specs as they can't accomplish certain things...

      I'm going with the DS. Nintendo understands the crucial points of this market... Price point, and battery life.

  3. 4-6 hours by justforaday · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's 4 to 6 hours in standby mode, right?

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  4. 4-6 hours is not enough by vasqzr · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Game Gear and Lynx both advertised '4-6 hour battery life'

    They both failed. Why? They ate through batteries too fast.

    The original Gameboy lasted 15-35 hours. If I took my Gameboy on a family trip, I'd get bored of it before the batteries ran out.

    1. Re:4-6 hours is not enough by iapetus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      With PSP, of course, the batteries are rechargeable. The killer with GG and Lynx was that you had to spend the GDP of a small European country on batteries just to keep the thing going.

      I'm planning on playing it on the train to and from work. 4 hours is fine for that, and I can recharge it overnight, just like I do with my GBA SP currently.

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  5. Yikes!!! by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Two hundred smackers for something you might accidentally leave on the bus. Nintendo has the right idea, I think. $80 for a brand new Game Boy SP, with older models selling at even cheaper prices.

    1. Re:Yikes!!! by -noefordeg- · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Uhhh.. Are you serious?

      My mobile phone costs A LOT more. My sunglasses costs more. My wrist watch costs more. My ring.

      If it's worth it I buy it. I don't buy a rocks because they are not so expensive to lose. Even tho it could be fun, in a retarded way, to have two rocks and bang them together, or fling them at people.
      If PSP is a great toy with great games $200 would be next to nothing.

    2. Re:Yikes!!! by D'Sphitz · · Score: 4, Funny

      we're all happy you're so succesful, but in reality most people don't sleep naked atop a big pile of cash as you do.

    3. Re:Yikes!!! by Indy+Media+Watch · · Score: 4, Funny

      in reality most people don't sleep naked atop a big pile of cash as you do.

      They wear pajamas...

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  6. Re:4 - 6 hours still seems way too optimistic by justforaday · · Score: 5, Funny

    What are developers going to do ? Randomly decrease the screen brightness or turn off the screen for a couple seconds at a time ?

    I hear the Doom3 port will be able to run for 12 hours on this thing... : p

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  7. Gamespot article with more info by mrluisp · · Score: 5, Informative

    Including game titles to be released in December:
    Article

  8. Add another one to the pile by iamdrscience · · Score: 4, Funny
    Non-gaming content for the proprietary 1.8GB "Universal Media Disc" (UMD) used by the PSP will go on sale from Spring 2005.
    Ah! Another proprietary media format from Sony that will not catch on. I guess they wanted to give Betamax, minidisk and memory stick, etc. some company.
    1. Re:Add another one to the pile by generic-man · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The UMD is about as open as all the other gaming formats for portable game systems out there:

      • Game Boy cartridge
      • Game Boy Advance cartridge
      • TurboExpress HuCard
      • Atari Lynx card
      • Game Gear cartridge
      • Sega Genesis cartridge
      • NeoGeo Pocket (color) cartridge
      • ...and the list goes on.

      What successful portable game system has used any sort of "standard" media? The Game Park GP32 doesn't count; it's not successful, and SmartMedia hasn't been "standard" for years.

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  9. Price by devmage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Given the anounced price and the speculative pricing I guess Sony decided to take a hefty loss on the hardware. Either that or they found some really creative ways to cut costs.

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  10. White Headphones by PhotoBoy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Looks like it's not just iPod owners who will be mugged based on the colour of the PSP's headphones.

  11. Not really by tkrotchko · · Score: 4, Insightful

    " this is a cheap alternative to a portable DVD player

    It can't play DVD's.

    And unlike portable media players, you can't convert videos to a different format and download; you'll have to either buy your movies again in a new format or hope that Sony's new movie format catches on so that you can rent them.

    Not terribly appealing, particularly since cheap portable DVD players can be purchased for well under $200 these days.

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  12. Wow...that point was completely missed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "My mobile phone costs A LOT more. My sunglasses costs more. My wrist watch costs more. My ring"

    And how many of these have you bought for an 8-10 year old child?

    Do you think the criteria for an adult purchase is different than that of a child's purchase? Do you think the primary audience for a portable game system is children or adults?

    1. Re:Wow...that point was completely missed by 10Ghz · · Score: 3, Insightful
      And how many of these have you bought for an 8-10 year old child?


      Then don't buy it for that kid. Give him etch-a-sketch instead.

      Do you think the criteria for an adult purchase is different than that of a child's purchase? Do you think the primary audience for a portable game system is children or adults?


      looking at some of the comments on /. and elsewhere, adults seems to be a HUGE market for portable game-machines! And with devices like PSP, it might become even more adult-oriented activity. Why should portable game-machines be meant for kids only? Because Nintento is dominant there, and they focus more on childish games like Pokemon and it's numerous offsprings?
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    2. Re:Wow...that point was completely missed by marmoset · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The PS1 and PS2 weren't targeted at that age range, they were aimed at 16-35 yr olds with disposable income. Why would you think Sony would be changing tactics with the PSP?

  13. English press releases by zmcnulty · · Score: 4, Informative

    Looks like the English press releases are up (still PDFs, though):

    Release date, price
    Package details
    December launch title list

    Also, I apologize for the error I made in formatting the original post. I was sleepy and in a rush.

  14. Now we know what the 1st 3rd party accessory is. by Gldm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A clip on battery. Just like the first addon for the Advance was a clip on light so you could see the awful screen. And the first one for the SP was a headphone jack to replace the one nintendo took out.

    Game systems often have their weak points adressed by other companies. Except Microsoft, who decided just outright buying Bungie was better than waiting for someone to fix their no games anyone gives a damn about problem.

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  15. People are forgetting the important thing.... by oZZoZZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the games..
    That's all that really matters. Have you looked at the lineup for the two systems on ebgames?
    Nintendo's games are, for the most part, hand-hend games. The GBA's best titles (Advance Wars, FFT:A), would not work as home console games. They were designed specifically to be 'pick up and play', and put down for an hour, then play again.
    The PSP seems to have mostly ports of PS2 games. This won't work, but I suspect most people will ignore this fact, and be turned on by the sexy graphics of the PSP, and the PSP will do well, with shitty games, because most people are too stupid to base their opinion on anything that matters anyway.

  16. Re:Battery Life Isn't Everything by {tele}machus_*1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think the key difference between the two systems is Nintendo's dedication to innovation. Both consoles will put more gaming power into a portable package than ever before.

    But Sony's going to use that power to exploit proven franchises and game concepts. People can play their favorite kinds of games with great graphics on the go, and that's a huge selling point.

    Nintendo is going to use its console's power to do more than push polygons: Nintendo will (like Nintendo always does) create great games that have a child-like sense of pure fun.

    I guess it depends on what you want from your system. Personally, I prefer the unique and just plain fun games that Nintendo publishes to yet another sports game, first person shooter or driving game.

    And, frankly, 4-6 hours of battery life is pathetic.

  17. Re:competition? by The+Only+Druid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well, the PSP has a better screen (both in resolution, size and aspect ratio), is significantly faster and more powerful (featuring PS2 ports from the get-go with full true 3d as opposed to n64 graphics on the DS), is aesthetically MUCH more pleasing, is more hackable (thanks to the fact that its got USB interface built in, including using that as a firmware upgrade vector according to the developers)...sounds like comeptition to me.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not tossing my GBA SP, but I'm not even thinking about buying a DS but I'm debating the PSP.

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  18. Actually.. by Viewsonic · · Score: 5, Informative

    All of Nintendos battery life times have been longer than advertised. Which is generally the opposite from everyone else.

  19. Tell me more. by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 4, Funny

    I need to know a couple of things about you for my next ... er ... "Job". Where do you live? What kind of a Car do you drive? Do you have a home security sytem? Do you have any Guard dogs that I should be aware of? Does your car have an alarm? Does your car have Guard dogs and/or any trunk monkies? Whats the easiest way to break in your house? Do you or any of your other family memebers carry any conceled weapons? What night of the week is the house usually empty? Where do you keep your valuables? Do you have a Safe? What is the combination to your Safe? Do you have any Life Insurance? Could You make me the Sole benificiary of said Insurance Policy? Do You have fire Insurance? Have you ever considered the benifits of Insurance Fraud?

    Get Back to me as soon as possible! That way I will be able to ... Uh... "advise" you sooner.

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  20. Look at the claims too, This thing is hyped. by El+Camino+SS · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some of the claims of this are ridiculous.

    1. Four to six hour battery life.

    I would guess that it would be less than that. Playstation 2 processor and a beautiful screen? It will eat those batteries alive. Those screens don't just bust out all of those colors so efficiently.

    2. Plays movies in letterbox format.

    Correction. Plays movies in a proprietary format in letterbox. If you can rip to and burn these disks, great. If you can't, then you are just buying another movie on the same old format. Remember, the market has never loved the better format, the market has only loved the cheaper and more universal format. *Cough* Betamax *cough*

    Sony, of all people, you should know this!

    3. Plays awesome video games.

    Making Metal Gear into a card battle game? That is the one they keep showing? Aw, Cmon! Card battle? Has any American bought a card battle video game besides the PA guys? I admit I haven't researched them all, but if you just show Solid Snake and you can't control him directly (an amazing NES feature), you just lost me. Why did they do that? Is there a limitation that allows you to not control him directly? Is the Wifi/processor too slow to go head to head? Does the disc not hold enough image space for a full experience? Is there a RAM issue? Look, it just doesn't make any sense why it is card battle. I think that it is a card battle game because there is a limitation somewhere. They shortchanged something in the machine, and they said "we can't do Solid Snake like we should, make it card battle so it doesn't have to cache so much!" If it was Konami's idea to try something different? Then they need to stop sniffing glue, and remember that interactivity is not what card battle is about.

    4. It will revolutionize the way that people carrry around data and information.

    Uh, not without a hard drive. Hard drives are where it's at these days. Not much more to say.

    Look, it's a toy. It is not a personal video player. If you purchase movies in that format with no video out, then you are just totally messed in the head. I'll be sitting next to you on the plane with a only slightly larger flip-top DVD player with a slightly crappier screen, AND A BAG FULL OF DVDs. When I get to my hotel room, I'll plug it in the back of the TV, and watch them all night. Why? Because I bought something that is agreeable with the rest of the world, and I bought it cheaper at Sam's Club or Costco. If I lose it, or somene rips it off, I'm not crying.

    (Walking on the plane with the new PSP)
    "Hey, I have two movies that I payed $30 for! Let's see, we have FF:Spirits within or Akira! I sure won't get tired of these titles! Nah, let's card battle with Solid Snake, YEAH!"

    Conclusion? It is a game machine. If you buy it for any other reason than the games, you're fooling yourself. You certainly don't want to get into yet another proprietary format that you cannot mess with without outrageous expense, when everyone is just getting to the phase where they now start burning their own home movies on DVD.

    At least Nintendo knows what they make are toys. Nintendo is out to maximize the toy experience, not add crap on top and charge you for it. I do believe I will be buying the PSP2 if I buy one, when all of the features make sense. Sony needs to get a grip on the idea that they go and bust out a new format every two years, and then surprise, no one buys it. Can you get a PSP disc recorder? Can you even buy blank media?

    Not that it would matter... ...ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the NEW minidisc player.

  21. You're smoking what now? by oGMo · · Score: 3, Interesting
    the games.. That's all that really matters. Have you looked at the lineup for the two systems on ebgames? Nintendo's games are, for the most part, hand-hend games. The GBA's best titles (Advance Wars, FFT:A), would not work as home console games. They were designed specifically to be 'pick up and play', and put down for an hour, then play again.

    GBA games are mostly ports of console games. FFTA is basically a watered-down version of the original FFT, which was for PSX (and worked quite well there). Ports of all the Super Mario Allstars games (as individual carts), ports of Zelda, ports/remakes of old games (Shining, Phantasy Star, Final Fantasy Adventure/Sword of Mana, Metroid ZM, direct NES title ports).

    The few titles that have been original (Golden Sun, Metroid Fusion, etc.; you know the ones) haven't been that great, either. Castlevania has been good. Wario Ware was funny and fun. Advance Wars was good. But c'mon here. I bought a GBA and a GBA SP, hoping for a whole new lineup of SNES-era games, and all I got was ports.

    The PSP seems to have mostly ports of PS2 games. This won't work, but I suspect most people will ignore this fact, and be turned on by the sexy graphics of the PSP, and the PSP will do well, with shitty games, because most people are too stupid to base their opinion on anything that matters anyway.

    I don't know what you're smoking, but you obviously haven't had beyond a cursory glance at what the PSP will be offering. You saw Gran Turismo 4, and heard that there would be Metal Gear, and though "ports!"

    There are already a good number of original games lined up. Ren Goku. Mercury. Metal Gear Acid (no, this is not a port, and no, the fact it's turn-based is actually pretty logical). The Gagharv. Ten No Kagi. Many more, go look (psp.ign.com or the like).

    It is all about the games. That's what Sony has to offer: a great selection of original games.

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