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Internet Turns 35 Today
shadowspar writes "The CBC is reporting that the Internet turned 35 today. The story talks about the less-than-prophetic beginnings of the net: 'In order to log in to the two-computer network, which was then called ARPANET, programmers at UCLA were to type in 'log', and Stanford would reply 'in'.
The UCLA programmers only got as far as 'lo' before the Stanford machine crashed.'"
I'd swear it only looked 29!
Which Internet?
Arachninecronymphocranialpheliaphobiacs Anonymous
I think that means Al Gore was only 21 when he invented it
MS must have a time machine.
and what a wonderful 35 years of porn collecting it was.
Yes! I listen to NYC Speedcore and do math at 3AM. I suggest you try it too.
"...and man, do I ever wish those pictures hadn't gotten onto the 'net."
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and you can go and meet many of the original programmers, now working in home improvement stores up and down the land!
"It's not your information. It's information about you" - John Ford, Vice President, Equifax
or like galaxies in the night sky, separated by vast expanses of emptines and porn
"It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
...wasn't "log". It was "lol!!1! did u get my msg??"
Damn, that's old. I think it's about time for the Internet to packet in.
Ahem.
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
I'm not even sure its safe to called the ARPANET the internet, considering how limited it was, but it will make for some interesting debate.
sorry 'bout the mess...
It is not like the original ubergeeks sat around the U Berkeley lab setting up DARPANet in the 1960s and said "Hey! Let's invent an infinitely superior music distribution model that no one can make money off of!"
But that is exactly what they did.
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
How did the internet grow in the early days? A bar chart of connectivity by year would be interesting.
Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it.
my girlfriend just turned 35 also. Hmmmmmm, I've never seen them in a picture together.................
I would have modded you troll, if I had mod points.
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So....does this mean that after they tried again, the first 3 letters the grace the internet were lol.
(Lo [crash] Log)
It's a scary thought....
Bugs are just features that have been fixed.
"The Web will likely be a novelty while serious research will remain on Gopher."
I thought AOL (internet) was alot younger than that.
it's amazing that their current ad campaign makes AOL=Internet
Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
was only like 10 when he invented the Internet. The man's a freakin genius ;)
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thanks alot for l33t speak...
1968 was an important year in world history, no doubt about it. In 1998, there was a wave of documentaries, books and essays about that year. The authors focused on yippies trashing democratic convention in Chicago, Warsaw Pact invading Czechoslovakia, student uprising in Paris, Mexico massacre, flower-power, maoism, Vietnam war, Beatles recording white album or Che Guevara in Bolivia.
Almost nobody noticed that 1968 was also the year when Noyce an Moore founded Intel, Douglas Engelbart demoed for the fist time GUI, mouse and word processing, UCLA and Stanford started to build their networking connection. Even today, scholars seem not to notice the relevance of these facts.
...and thanks for all the porn! (drops a tear)
the less-than-prophetic beginnings of the net: ... The UCLA programmers only got as far as 'lo' before the Stanford machine crashed.
Oh, no. The idea of a machine crashing instead of serving up the requested data is totally alien to the modern Slashdot reader!
without Internet, will computer adaptation be as widespread as it is?
But personally, i'd be killing some worms or killing some kittens, if you get my drift.
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FTP is quite old, and was quite useful even before gopher and later http made zipping files back and forth trivial. The genius of Berners-Lee was rather like the mythical invention of the Recees Peanut Butter Cup. He figured out a way to combine a hypertext markup scheme with internet file transfer. The individual component ideas had been lying around for at least seven years (and possibly since the dawn of ARPANET) when he put them together in a limited whole. Active scripting was a bit more clever an idea, but only marginally.
I will grant that it's a good thing TELNET is dying in favor of SSH-- security (network and computer alike) has made great progress since then. So has bandwidth. So has accessibility to the general public. But it's no more funamentally different in terms of power than modern desktop computers are compared to those of days of yore.
//Information does not want to be free; it wants to breed.
Dammit, I'm older than it is. Mumble
No wonder. I was heading to lunch today and I drove past Matt Sauper's Chevrolet, and there was the Internet with that new blonde girlfriend of it. I hear she's only in college. As I was parking at the sandwich place, there they went, speeding by me. The Internet apparently bought a solid gold Corvette convertible. At least I thought it was him: the license plate said HTTPIMP.
Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.
Katie Hafner wrote a great book entitled "Where Wizards Stay Up Late" thats all about the creation of the arpanet. It is more focused on the work that was going on in Boston and I believe MIT at the time than the specific stanford happenings but has a ton of information on both. This is a very interesting read. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0684 832674/qid=1099089921/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/102-7568 317-3623330?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Joe Beer thinks "the Internet" is around ten years old, since that's when he first heard of it. Smarter Joe-Beers would point to the date of the invention of the Web (not "the Internet" as a whole) and say "See? The Internet was invented by Tim Berners-Lee in 199x... I read it on such-and-such"...
[cue OT rant]
Most bozos nowadays can't distinguish between:
* "The Internet" and "The Web"
* "PC" and "Windows"
* "Microsoft" and "Windows"
* "Macintosh" and "the Mac OS" (or "Mac OS X")
* "Apple" and "Macintosh"
Thus, you will hear things like "Yeah, I'm on the Web" (translation: "I have a connection to the Internet"), or "Are you running Windows or Mac?" (translation: "Windows or Mac OS X"), or "This game is only available for the PC" (read: "...for Windows").
However, these same functional computer illiterates (read: 99% of the US population) manage to think that "Linux", "Unix", "Red Hat" and "Solaris" (to give four examples) are completely different skillsets (talk to any typical "tech recruiter" and you'll see what I mean. I've met guys who have twenty years of experience in half a dozen commercial Unices, but can't get a job dealing with the one major flavor they've never touched... 'cuz as we all know, they don't all share 99% of the same stuff.... Oh, wait, they do...)
Honey, I shrunk the Cygwin
Only yesterday The Internet hosted it's firt pRon site...
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So does this mean that the whole damn Internet will be down now -- as it gets slashdoted?
Homer no function beer well without.
A president of the United States must be 35 years old and a native US citicizen. So, who is with me?
INTERNET for PRESIDENT, 2004!
It is a pretty good choice. Internet is socially liberal, and fiscially conservative, very accepting of others, and it is willing to let you look at it's massive pr0n collection for free.
Now, all it needs is a phone switch for VP, and it's the ultimate ticket.
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
The Internet turned 21 on January 1, 2004. The Internet was born on January 1, 1983 when the ARPANET converted from NCP to TCP/IP. The ARPANET was Network 10. The ARPANET is dead. Long live the ARPANET!
In 1989 the Internet (all text : mail, telnet, ftp, news, etc) was growing at something like 8% per month. A coworker predicted that in 10 years everyone's toaster would be networked.
I said, "No, only geeks will ever use the Internet."
I realized how wrong that was when I saw my first URL on a billboard in about '95. I felt violated. They were taking over my network!
sigs, as if you care.
That was interesting. At one point in the video, I saw a 1992 copyright flash across a screen, so this video must date from circa 1992.
reminded me of this little gem:
"The Internet was invented by the American military back in the late '60s. It was designed to be a durable, scalable, decentralized information delivery system so that in the event of a nuclear attack, American military leaders would still have access to pornography."
Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie - "Keep your parents off the internet" (I'm not afiliated with them)
According to the article linked from that story, "computer scientists at UCLA linked two bulky computers using a 15-foot gray cable, testing a new way to exchange data over networks" and "Stephen Crocker and Vinton Cerf were among the graduate students who joined UCLA professor Len Kleinrock in an engineering lab on September 2, 1969, as bits of meaningless test data flowed silently between the two computers."
The CBC article linked from the present story:
"After the hardware was put in place, researchers at UCLA attempted on Oct. 29, 1969, to log in to a computer at the Stanford Research Institute in Menlo Park, Calif."
So, the first "birthday" was meaningless bits of test data between two computers in the same room, this "birthday" is the first connection (and attempt at a meaningful natural language exchange) between computers in geographically separate locations.
Well, according to this article, the internet just turned 20 last year.
Here's one that said it turned 35 last month.
Here's yet another one at a reputable site that has it as 20 years ago, but this was Dec 31, 2002.
Any reason to celebrate, I guess.
it'd be 'YO!/SUP?' instead" - Thinkgeek
Seems fitting, though.
192.168.1.2: 'Lo.
192.168.1.1: Hey.
192.168.1.2: 'n I get a shell?
192.168.1.1: Sure.
Assume I was drunk when I posted this.
The internet is a number of inventions put together, the idea of a open protocol that any computer network could talk to the outside regardless of what it used internally. It is also the idea that it not centralized like more tradionional networks so that it could survive outage.
Just like junkmail != Postal system, the internet != WWW. Rather just like junkmail uses the postal system to work, the WWW uses the internet. HOWEVER, the two are entirely unrelated. It would be very easy for me to send junkmail without using the postal system, just dropping flyers in your neighbourhood does that and it is easy to make a WWW site wich does not use the internet (A website using local links would do that href=/home/user/mysite/page2.html).
The internet existed long before WWW. This makes those predicting the end of the Internet because of spam or IE exploits so fucking hilarious. It is like saying roads are going to be destroyed because of traffic jams. What you say? We might all use rail transport instead? Rails are roads. Just as anything that will replace the internet will be the internet.
The internet is not a thing, it is an idea. The idea that you can connect individual networks to a central network that connects them all.
If I implemented my connection with the revolutionary new tech off Avian IP it would still be part of the internet even if noone else has packet delays == cat digestive system.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Assuming that the Honeywell-based IMP was a using a 7-bit ASCII-like encoding without checksum bit and transferred bit sequentially from most to least significant bit, then the first sequence was 1001100. But I guess it was perhaps rather based on a five-bit teletype scheme.
There wasn't much info on the DDP-516's homepage about that. But I like this quote: "The Honeywell DDP-516 was chosen for its high clock speed (aprox. 1.1 MHz) and expandability"
Birth of the Internet
Honeywell Series 16
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