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The Eye: Evolution versus Creationism
Sox2 writes "SciScoop is running a story about researchers in Germany who claim to have solved the "mystery" surrounding the evolution of the mamalian eye. The work, published in Science, goes some way to answering the issues raised in the "intelligent design" debate that has become the mainstay of creationist thinking."
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Just some food for thought.
What is this "Creationism" program? And will it run on Linux?
BTW, I am not sure that evolution is incompatible with the idea of "intelligent design" as long as one is careful about defining intelligent design....
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Can I have it in prose, please?
Oh, you mean "versus." Now I get it.
You have two hands and one brain, so always code twice as much as you think!
To paraphrase: "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."
You have two hands and one brain, so always code twice as much as you think!
The lord works in mysterious ways...........
From the story submission:
Did you mean mammalian?
Honestly, if you're not going to edit, why call yourselves editors?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Main Entry: 1verse
Pronunciation: 'v&rs
Function: noun
(3) : POETRY 2 b : POEM c : a body of metrical writing (as of a period or country)
3 : STANZA
4 : one of the short divisions into which a chapter of the Bible is traditionally divided
Merriam Webster entry for "versus":
Main Entry: versus
Pronunciation: 'v&r-s&s, -s&z
Function: preposition
1 : AGAINST
2 : in contrast to or as the alternative of
While it's possible the "Verses" in the article title was a subtle pun/play on the fact the Bible is creationist and consists of "verses", I am apt to believe it wasn't so.
An Indian-American Hindu committed to non-violent thought/speech/action alarmed by the global explosion of radical Islam
Ahh... natural selection at work...
The creationism website has been slashdotted.
That's all the proof *I* needed! Go Darwin!
MC Hawkins says:
Fuck The Creationists
Trash Talk
Ah yeah, here we go again!
Damn! This is some funky shit that I be laying down on your ass.
This one goes out to all my homey's working in the field of
evolutionary science.
Check it!
Verse 1
Fuck the damn creationists, those bunch of dumb-ass bitches,
every time I think of them my trigger finger itches.
They want to have their bullshit, taught in public class,
Stephen J. Gould should put his foot right up their ass.
Noah and his ark, Adam and his Eve,
straight up fairy stories even children don't believe.
I'm not saying there's no god, that's not for me to say,
all I'm saying is the Earth was not made in a day.
Chorus
Fuck, fuck, fuck,
fuck the Creationists.
Trash Talk
Break it down.
Ah damn, this is a funky jam!
I'm about ready to kick this bitch back in.
Check it.
Verse 2
Fuck the damn creationists I say it with authority,
because kicking their punk asses be me paramount priority.
Them wack-ass bitches say, "evolution's just a theory",
they best step off, them brainless fools, I'll give them cause to fear me.
The cosmos is expanding every second, every day,
but their minds are shrinking as they close their eyes and pray.
They call their bullshit science like the word could give them cred,
if them bitches be scientists then cap me in the head.
Chorus
Trash Talk
Bass!
Bring that shit in!
Ah yeah, that's right, fuck them all motherfuckers.
Fucking punk ass creationists trying to set scientific thought back 400 years.
Fuck that!
If them superstitious motherfuckers want to have that kind of party,
I'm going to put my dick in the mashed potatoes.
Fucking creationists.
Fuck them.
Creationists are a lot like zombies. Slow, but powerful and numerous. And they all want to eat our brains.
and I create software for living. Even designing a relatively simple distributed transaction mechanism is difficult. Designing a computer that will not overheat and die if the fan breaks is difficult. There cannot be intelligence powerful enough to design what we call the universe and all the things within it. It makes much more sense that the universe is an NDA where things can just happen at random given enough time than to imagine a grand design behind it. People who believe in the 'grand design' just don't get how difficult it is to design simple things. Forget the eye.
It is just unbelievable that in some places schools are not allowed to teach Darwinism but they can teach creationism.
You can't handle the truth.
Their eyesight must have been bad!
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
yeah too right!
I mean, there's no reason at all to believe mountains of scientific evidence any more than to believe a book written by a bunch of wackos a couple of thousand years ago. the choice between the two is an entirely arbitrary act of faith.
Great...next someone will "prove" the Earth is more than 5,000 years old.... lunatics...
"It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance." - Thomas Sowell
Detached retinas, appendicitis, cancer, male nipples, and premature balding are all due to Original Sin. If Adam and Eve had obeyed God, we would all have perfect bodies.
This is, of course, intended to be sarcasm (although I have heard a close variation of this exact arguement from fundamentalist acquaintances).
-- stream of did I lock the front door consciousness
Of course, this could be true. It could also be true that the universe was created last Thursday
Oh, great! It had to be a Thursday! I never could quite get the hang of Thursdays.
Exactly. Only one group can be right, and it is obvious which one. Earth was created approximately 5700 years ago. The planets, sun and stars revolve around it, and it is flat. Fossils were put there by God to make us question our faith. Only the truely faithful will be saved on the judgement day, in -4 years.
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Proof that Cthulhu is really in charge
Now, repeat after me:
Yea, though I walk through the valley of Friday, I shall fear no Weekend, for a hot chick is with me; My Rod and My Staff, they comfort me, especially when rubbed the right way; Thou preparest a table on which I may lay down my chick in the presence of mine video camera; thou annointest my chick with water-soluble lube, yea, even as her cups overflow. Surely lewdness and merriment shall follow me all the days of my life, perhaps even unto next Thursday, when the World Will End, and I shall dwell in the house of lewdness for ever, and ever. Ah, man.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
An innovation: proof by bold tagging. Why are we so positive god exists? because Traa wrote it in bold letters.... Ah I see know. I'm convinced, Allah does exist!
To paraphrase again...
"In the land of the X eyed, the X+1 eyed man is king."
I believe in most cultures it would be more like
"In the land of the X eyed, the X+1 eyed man is a freak".
Or perhaps
"In the land of the X eyed, the X+1 eyed man is king where x = 0"
If X is the new Y, and Y is "X is the new Y", solve for X.
Had it ever occured to you that the reason cephalopods have better eyes is that Cthulhu created the earth?
since humans are still "evolving" isn't M$ killing evolution, since it's making ppl dumber. We will be a race of point and clickers and M$ will be the great evolutionary god......all worship billy gates.....
you are not reading the bible metaphorically enough. When it speaks of God creating the archetypal Adam and Eve that is metaphor for the creation of baryons and leptons.
:)
Original sin is simply a metaphorical way to talk abou the primordial disparity between matter and anti-matter with which the universe has been stuck since early after its inception.
The Jesus story is a metaphorical reference to the time when electrons coupled with matter, and the universe became clear to light.
I think the bible is amazing
We are all Devo:
"God made man, but he used a monkey to do it"
If Jesus himself came back with Stephen J. Gould and told them all that they're idiots and evolution is the best theory, they wouldn't believe it.
Do you really think Jesus is going to come back after what happened last time?
Cristian Widnows has CreateProcess() but scientific Linux's processes always evolve from other processes with fork().
The Pope has one eye?
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
"All scripture (is) given by inspiration of God, and (is) profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." 2 Timothy, 3:16
This sounds a lot like those "all characters in this book are fictitious. Any similarity to an actual person is unintended and completely unintentional.
The Testament's own CYA
This is not my sig
Has it ever occurred to you that the reason cephalopods have better eyes is that they didn't have porn?
Sure I'm paranoid, but am I paranoid enough?
This is THE idiot argument of the century. Nobody is right because the question is broken.
Religion is the tool of darkness and control.
Science fulfills the same function because it has been over-populated with borderline autistic practitioners who have deliberately turned off their intuitive powers through a form of virtual self-lobotomy in a knee-jerk reaction to the fact that Organized Religion is Insane. --Which is like refusing to play D&D because one kid jumps in front of a subway train yelling, "Black Dragon!"
Now everybody be quiet put your heads down until recess. Sheesh.
-FL
> Now that you mention the three channels of vision, it reminds me on an
> article I read in Red Herring sometime back about a mutant gene that shows up
> in some women that that gives them 4 channels of vision. It allows the ones
> lucky enough to have it to have a much sharper perception of color tones -
> ironically, most that have it aren't even aware that they see the world any
> different than the rest of us. Do a google on tetrachromatic women.
>
> The Red Herring article is here but you need to give up your first born to
> read it.
However, you also have to read the Green Herring and the Blue Herring to get the complete picture.
We've finally evolved beyond Tim?
Greater Humanity 1
Tim 0
10? George Carlin got it down to 2:
Don't be dishonest to the bestower of the nookie.
Don't kill anybody usless they pray to a different invisible man in the sky than you do.
The great literary mind, and great Apologist.
THIS THING CAN TURN ON A DIME, MACROSSZERO STYLE ALSO FUCK BETA, ~NYORON
That would explain women's fashion:
F: "I can't wear that - emerald was last year's colour. This year it's teal."
M: "Huh? They're both green..."
[whack!]
Or don't you believe in refrigerators?
Here's the theory for you!
The real Captain Avatar is a fictional character, so I suppose he doesn't mind if I impersonate him.