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OpenBSD 3.6 Released!
dspisak writes "The people over at OpenBSD have released version 3.6 containing significant new features such as: SMP support for i386 and amd64 archs, the ability to optimize pf rulesets, better hotplug support, in addition to more robust encryption and vpn functionality. This is in addition to more recent hardware support, for a full list of changes take a look at the 3.6 changelog. Don't forget to use the mirrors!"
Excellent timing!
Right around Halloween, the "dead" comes back to life!
Congrats and good work to the OpenBSD team!
Keep it up.
..it was released on 29th of October already, as you can read here. When download, please don't forget to use the torrent!
I wish there was someone in real life who knew what OpenBSD was so they could share my enthusiasm =(
There was an excellent paper at CCS last week on the limits of address space randomization. If you want address space randomization to be effective, use a 64 bit architecture and native 64 bit binaries for your OpenBSD system.
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Well, come to think of it, this article was on time...
The policy of the United States is worse than bad---it is insane. -- Ludwig von Mises, Economic Policy(1959)
It's like a BSD golden age lately, with (alphabetically!) FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD releases coinciding.
Hooray for all three. It's a amazing luxury to have so many open source Unix-like operating systems and kernels out there, free for the download.
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of this release!
A new BSD song!
Yeah!!!!!!
i noticed under new features:
tcpdrop(8), a command to drop TCP connections.
this looked like an awesome idea, and I'm wondering what the windows / linux equivalent is... anyone know?
-judging another only defines yourself
OpenBSD has a reputation for being the ideal platform for making into a router or firewall. That's true, but it's also a really nice general server OS for low power tasks. I run it at home as a file/web server, and it's really quite nice.
If you like Unix (as opposed to hating Microsoft), give it a shot.
--saint
Well, there was BSDi, which I think is defunct now, which was a closed-source OS on a BSD base (a piss poor one, I might add). Then of course, there's OSX, which is a closed source OS built on a BSD core.
So yes, there is.
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Actually, the fish has been around since 2.6.
Simple (text install). Default install is small, but gives you a complete, basic Unix-like OS. Man pages are really useful. Multi-platform, so you don't have to manage a different OS on every arch you have. OpenBSD is creating technology that helps other distros, such as OpenSSH. I'm expecting to see their BGP and NTP stuff showing up elsewhere.
...you would have 2 servers up and running already. Got my CD's last week and have 1 new box up and one old 3.5 box upgraded. May thanks to Theo and the team for such great software.
If you have not tried OpenBSD please do. While I will not speak on the idea of OpenBSD on the desktop I will speak to how great it is as a firewall. If you have struggled with IPTABLES it is time to give a try to PF. Have a look. It should be easy to understand:
ext_if="xl0"
int_if="fxp0"
# clean up the packets
scrub in all
# nat the internal network to the external interface
nat on $ext_if from !($ext_if) -> ($ext_if:0)
# setup a table of RTBL IP's for spammers
table persist
#redirect any IP's in the the RTBL to spamd
rdr pass inet proto tcp from to any port smtp -> 127.0.0.1 port 8025
# ftp proxy
rdr pass on $int_if proto tcp to port ftp -> 127.0.0.1 port 8021
# redirect any internal user to squid
rdr on $int_if inet proto tcp from any to ! $int_if port 80 -> 127.0.0.1 port 3128
# pass extenal web request to the internal www server
rdr on $ext_if proto tcp from any to any port http -> 192.168.0.2
# pass extenal web request to the internal www server
rdr on $ext_if proto tcp from any to any port https -> 192.168.0.2
# drop everything
block in log
# allow out and keep track
pass out keep state
# allow anything to the loopback and internal interface
pass quick on { lo $int_if }
# no RFC 1918 spoofing (quick - do it now!)
antispoof quick for { lo $int_if }
# allow external ssh in
pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp to ($ext_if) port ssh keep state
# allow smtp in
pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp to ($ext_if) port smtp keep state
# allow the www forwarding
pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp to 192.168.0.2 port http keep state
# allow the www forwarding
pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp to 192.168.0.2 port https keep state
# allow outbound smtp
pass out log on $ext_if proto tcp from ($ext_if) to port smtp keep state
Very simple and clean. If you need a firewall give it a try!
That and a pf ruleset actually makes sense when you read it.
Both PacketFilter and NetFilter provide enhanced filtering capabilities, and are statefull.
The way you build your rules is a little different.
I don't think there's much difference for Joe User (who wants to protect his home network beind cable/dsl).
The features in pf that I like are:
- packet normalization (scrub in all)
- ISN modification (modulate state)
I think you should rather use OpenBSD/pf if you intend to have a firewall with enhanced VPN capabilities, since OpenBSD has pretty good security features.
But the bottom line is: choose the one you're comfortable with. Both can be secure only if well configured!
hotplugd is pretty damned neat on the user end. It allows you to define actions performed when a device is plugged in, such as a digital camera (ala cp /mnt/camera/* ~/pictures/$DATE/).
/ openbsd _3_6.html
It's also mentioned in a recently slashdotted interview with some OpenBSD devs here:
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/10/28
Ok, the current icon for a generic BSD story on /. right now is the Daemon, right? Everyone I know associates the Daemon with BSD regardless of flavor. NetBSD has attempted to single themselves out as a seperate distro from the rest of the BSD group/stables. Why would it make any sense to use their new logo as the *generic* BSD logo? If the /. story is 100% devoted to NetBSD, then sure, use the flag like Apple has their own logo. But I don't think it would be worthwhile to replace the Daemon with the NetBSD flag on a story dealing with OpenBSD.
"Genius may shine aloof and alone, like a star, but goodness is social, and it takes two men and God to make a Brother."
I've got OpenBSD running as a little personal webserver, DNS server and so on. It's running OpenBSD3.1, because at least back then, it was absolutely impossible to update. Every up understanddate involves going through and manually mucking with endless configuration files, etc. I use Debian for most everything, and have grown so used to the ability to run an apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade.
The inability to easily update OpenBSD, to me, nullifies any benefit one gets from it being "secure". If I'm running a two year old version of Apache because it's such a pain in the butt to update, how iss that secure? I think automatic security updates are imperative for a secure system.
And, furthermore, the automatic updating system should be secure as well.
Awesome! I can finally run BSD on my old quad 386sx with 1Meg of RAM! Now I'll be cooking with propane.
If you open your mind too wide, people will throw trash in it.
ed2k://|file|openBSD36.i386+ports+src.bootable.iso |276707328|abfef21976ed88d112bb413889ec24a3|
you can check security using MD5 sums for the files included
boot image used: floppy36.fs
Depends.
I asked about SMP for Sparc32 (I have a quad SS20!) but there was no take on that. SMP for Sparc64 maybe coming..
Top 10 reasons IPTABLES is better than PF:
/var/log.
10. Parsing IPTABLES config files excellent preparation for subsequent
learning of Asian pictograph-based languages.
9. Standard logging via syslogd helps eliminate clutter in
8. GPL prevents Steve Jobs from stealing your code.
7. Simplistic man pages encourage development of social skills via mailing
lists.
6. Multiple distributions, versions, kernels, modules, plugins, etc. keep
hackers confused as to exactly what they're attacking.
5. "Mangle" just sounds so much more 133+ than "Scrub".
4. Complexity of structure leads to more opportunities for obfuscation and
subsequent job security.
3. New and experimental kernel modules make life exciting again.
2. GUI and Web based utilities mean that anyone can set one up without knowing
what they're doing.
And the number one reason IPTABLES is better than PF:
1. No distracting arguments about whether to port it to OpenBSD.
Shamelessly stolen from the pf mailinglist.
Reality has a notoriously liberal bias -- Stephen Colbert
I wish they'd slow down the releases. Between the new versions and power outages, the uptime on my server is suffering.
When will Windows be ready for the desktop?
I want to recommend OpenBSD to anyone who wants to build a small server and it is a must for a firewall/NAT box.
/network. OpenBSD's lack of graphical configuration aids is a great help here.
I have never seen such a clear, concise, and easy to understand configuration file as that of pf.conf (IP filter).
The files for the boot-up configuration rc.conf and rc.local are also very clear and easy to understand.
Everything has very _good_ man pages and sample configuration files with lots of comments.
The faq on openbsd.org is quite good, too.
One aspect of security is simplicity, which implies easily understood configuration files.
Another aspect of security is that you learn about the fundamentals of your system
You simply _have_ to learn about your system to be able to operate it, but at the same time learning is made easy, by great documentation.
And if anybody is put off by OpenBSD's (in)famous penchant for straight/rude talking developers: Don't worry, I found people friendly and helpful. They are only put off, by questions that are very obvious and have been covered in the documentation extensively. But I am also the kind of person who loathes to ask for help in a D.I.Y. shop such as Home Depot, preferring to find things unaided so that I learn more and more about the products they offer, so that I will be more knowledgeable when doing my next project.
Marcus
Last time I looked, iptables also didn't support prioritisation of TCP ACKs, a particularly useful feature for people on an asymmetric connection, since it prevents maxing out the upstream bandwidth from throttling the downstream.
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I do not deploy Linux. Ever.
The developers admit it's pretty crude. It just uses the one big lock technique that most first time SMP projects seem to.
Don't forget SMP opens up new opportunities for security problems, and the OpenBSD devs will be treading very cautiously and conservatively with their implementation. For them security outweighs performance.
Don't expect it to compete with Linux 2.6 or FreeBSD 5 in terms of performance and scalability anytime soon (if ever).
Don't forget to use the mirrors!
I've heard there are big companies using many copies of OpenBSD but haven't even bought a CD.
They should get their names on this list:
http://www.openbsd.com/donations.html
Ths installation is the fastest and simplest of any unix ....
Depends what you're smoking. Are you telling me that manaul partitioning with OpenBSD's hellish tools is anything like RedHat/Mandrake's polished graphical config? Sorry, but there's no comparison. If you thought Debian's installer was bad, OpenBSD's curses-based nightmare is strictly for masochists.
FreeBSD is a great place to start learning BSDs, since it is by far the simplest and offers the most functionality on x86 machines. The downside is that its future is bleak (lost best devs, politics too messy, CODE too messy... this isn't trolling, hell I love FreeBSD, but judging by 5.x progress it's not going to get any better).
So use FreeBSD as a learning platform then move to the deeper end of Net and/or OpenBSD. When DragonFly has cleaned out more of the 4.x cruft and become production-class stable, that'll be a great thing to investigate too. Net and Open, however, have had so-clean-you-can-eat-off-it code for years now, and the result is a pair of portable (especially NetBSD), secure (especially OpenBSD), high performing (at least, OpenBSD say they've made it so) and generally very good systems. They certainly pose very good alternatives to Linux, and I would much rather run either on a server/gateway machine (iptables is a joke).
Sam ty sig.
Well, you saw the crap that happened to FreeBSD 5 when they tried to get 'good' SMP support. The SMP is fine-grained for the most part, but it isn't worth it, since the performance on SMP and UP is still (as demonstrated above) miles behind other systems, even Net and OpenBSD which don't claim to have fine-grained or even far matured SMP.
SMP itself is not a killer, but when a design for SMP is overcomplicated, the rest of the system suffers.
Sam ty sig.